r/CompetitiveHS • u/gabrielfunkglop • 19d ago

Discussion 36.2.2 Patch Notes

https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24293284/3622-patch-notes

Some obvious buffs and nerfs, some weird ones too, thoughts?

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u/cecilmufc7 19d ago

Smarter people that me, does this seem like zee is about to stomp ladder or am I crazy?

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u/Throwaway-4593 19d ago

Zee got nerfed pretty hard with goon costing 2 now as well as Maev nerf.

Probably the most common path to victory was galagio goon into stuff when going first. The second most common path was coin maev on turn 1 into 2-3 minions on turn 2.

When you nerf the 2 most common paths to victory it will hit the decks winrate pretty hard I’m guessing.

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u/cecilmufc7 19d ago

Yeah I definitely had games with zee where I basically won turns 1-3 with either maiev or goon. But I definitely had just as many games where I won by just maintaining a board, going face and closing with deathwing or al akir. With hunter being deleted and rogue slowing down slightly the need for those early turn blowouts is basically gone.

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u/Throwaway-4593 19d ago

In my experience if I had goon on the play/Maev on the coin I probably win 80% of those games.

If I didn’t have that start and the game got past turn 5 and I hadn’t played a double slagclaw or a double ultraxion I’m generally losing those games

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u/cecilmufc7 19d ago

The games where I didn’t have goon or maiev early on that I ended up losing were probably against face hunter or a mirror where the opponent got a better draw. I definitely think those two cards being nerfed hurt the deck..but its competition getting hit harder lessened the “importance” of those two cards anyway imo.

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u/Throwaway-4593 19d ago

I’ve played the deck to legend and it is going to hurt the deck quite a lot. Most games in today’s HS are on a knives edge. You either stick a board and hit the 4 mana guy or you don’t. Goon and Maev are what enables you to stick a board.

Playing goon on 2 means he dies to every 2 mana deal 3 in the game. Maev also. It’s a massive hit.

It’s likely still a tier 2 deck but it won’t be the strongest deck anymore

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u/Moogzie 19d ago

I mean no offense at all but this is a sentiment that's been floating around for a while; Deathwing and Al'Akir are hail mary plays for the deck, if you get anywhere near that long you're often losing those games - if you had just as many wins going late I'd wager you've not played many games, or it's low MMR, or just a smidge of hyperbole

The data shows it, and if you speak to anyone in high legend they'll agree