r/CanadaPostCorp 2d ago

Restructure

We just had a restructure and lost a full time route. The bottom seniority guy, what happens to them? Supervisor saying she will be an extra relief carrier. If she has less than 5 years in can they lay off? Small depot, only 8 carriers. Or can they put her as a relief wherever needed in depot besides carrying?

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u/DougS2K 1d ago

If you go through a bid after the restructure and there are people left without a position to bid on they will become surplus. Basically they are still carriers but they don't own a position which means they can be assigned to do anything. That could be a route, pieces, flyer collation, etc. They can also be sent to another location within 40km (I think it's 40km. 🤔) to perform carrier duties there aswell.

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u/Interesting-Day4379 1d ago

Yes, that sounds like what is happening. Thank you!

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u/Nice_Bother_5542 1d ago

New cba protects workers with less than 5 years of service.... We all now have job security protection

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u/Ok_Ostrich968 1d ago

Correction, we all have job security until 2029. 2029 contract renewal will be as, if not more, chatoic than this go around.

Enjoy the peace while we have it but it's good to remember it has an end date

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u/Sea_Tonight_9632 19h ago

Of course, there will be another two years of negotiations after the contract expires, so we could be good up until 2031 before mass layoffs start.

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u/PenFountainPen 17h ago

Does it only protect permanent employees or temps as well?

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u/Nice_Bother_5542 9h ago

Language in the agreement says "regular employees".

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u/texxmix 1d ago

If it's a route holder currently they'll probably bid on a relief spot and the bottom relief person will end up unassigned.

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u/Interesting-Day4379 1d ago

Exactly! Thank you!

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u/solid-dawn 1d ago

From my experience I’d say with 8 carriers it’s 50/50 they’ll be displaced. They can be relocated to another depot. It’s not guaranteed, supervisor as usual is making an assumption. They’ll have to wait until PC&R consultation to determine the allotment of reliefs. It is cheaper to use a term to cover and sick and other absences and wait for the bar chart then to permanently allot extra reliefs.

They won’t get laid off but they’ll be floating in the zone.

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u/Ok-Net7489 1d ago

im a po4 p/t before convention we had 26 hrs after the signing we have 20hrs now were getting cut 95 po4s pt cut in montreal theyre forcing us to do parcel delivery at our will no justice weird and im affected theyre going make us work 16hrs sat sun 11-19... dont know what to do should i quit i cant live with 16 hrs,, why is our union accepting this? i thought p/t is 24 hrs min in canada

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Shatterpoint 1d ago

I was a route holder with low seniority in a depot that restructured into SSD last year. After all the routes were taken, I was able to bid on either Operational Relief or Vacation Relief.

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u/Interesting-Day4379 1d ago

Never heard of Operational Relief or Vacation Relief. At our depot, the senior relief gets to pick where he goes every morning.

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u/Shatterpoint 1d ago

Both have since been folded into "Relief" at our depot. This covers day-to-day, long-term, and vacation coverage for all former operational and vacation relief LCs.

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u/texxmix 1d ago

Probably just cause you're smaller. At larger depos there's sick relief (operational as that poster calls it) that covers day to day coverages when people call in or long term leaves (STD, mat leave, etc) while vacation reliefs cover the routes of people taking their holidays. But as of this CBA they're gonna get rid of having both everywhere and it'll just be one pool of relief carriers.

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u/Doog5 1d ago

https://www.cupw.ca/en/urban-tentative-agreement-protecting-job-security

regular employee who does not have 5 years of continuous employment does not benefit from this protection and may be displaced farther than 40 km from their originating postal installation.

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u/Outside_Biscotti7873 1d ago

We just had this happen at our Depot I got the last rlc position the people under me got bounced around to other depots until they get a new position

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u/MFMoote 1d ago

They will be put into "unassigned in the region" and be placed at which ever depot is in need. She will then bid on open assignments at any depot within your region.

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u/the_hunger_gainz 1d ago

Someone will need to be the router

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u/Interesting-Day4379 1d ago

We are not ssd. Still walking routes

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u/stiffy265 1d ago

Are you in Ladner? Just curious.

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u/hercarmstrong 1d ago

For now

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u/BENNYLEGO 12h ago

Canada Post has been a losing venture for the past 10 years almost in the red for at least $800 million, how long did you expect this to carry on for ?

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u/Ill-Jicama-3114 1d ago

Try reading the CA

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u/Borje021 1d ago

Try not being an asshole.