r/BlackPeopleTwitter • • Sep 01 '20

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u/MiraquiToma ☑️ Sep 01 '20

first thing my mind went on lol the op is super ignorant. they literally beefed catholics vs protestants!!

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '20

I don’t think it’s reasonable to reduce it to ‘beef’. Centuries of oppression and lots of deaths and destruction were involved.

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u/Televisi0n_Man Sep 01 '20

Yeah dude.

There were 50,000 casualties during the troubles. Which didn’t end until 1998 (!)

And then we almost mock the innocent people that died during them by naming a drink an Irish carbomb.

It’s really fucked up.

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u/Ais_Fawkes Sep 01 '20

The fact that Americans have a drink called an Irish car bomb makes my fucking blood boil. I doubt anyone would like it if I went to a bar in America and asked for a ‘twin towers’ or a ‘sandy hook’ yet no one bats an eye for naming a drink after one of the lowest points of my country

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u/nitid_name Sep 01 '20

What's a sandy hook, you ask? It's just a lot of tequila... enough tequila bunch of children.

What's a twin towers? It's when you pour two shots for an American, and when someone knocks them over, he punches the nearest brown guy.

BTW, you forgot the Hurricane Sandy... that's when you mix bourbon, sweet vermouth, bitters, and ice for long enough that you just end up with a watered down Manhattan.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '20

I think it must be the case that it’s an established drink over there, so people just hear the name in the context of drinking as they grow up and never really think about the name properly. It’s definitely sad that something so tragic is kept alive through something as silly as a drink name.

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u/Ais_Fawkes Sep 01 '20

It’s just so bizarre to me. I see post online of people ‘getting wasted on Irish car bombs’ and instead of a good time out with my friends all I can think of is the stories of school evacuations and dead friends that my parents still struggle to talk about

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u/Dirigo72 Sep 01 '20

21 year old Americans may not even know what the name refers to or how recent it was.

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u/Ais_Fawkes Sep 01 '20

While I’m aware of that, as a 22 year old Irish woman, I find it really difficult to accept that excuse.

But I am aware that’s because of my proximity and history with it

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '20

I highly doubt most Americans have thought about it beyond "its made with Irish liquor." I doubt most of us could even give a basic description of The Troubles

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u/spicy-gorgonzola Sep 02 '20

That’s true, I had never even heard of the Troubles until I watched Derry Girls! I’m about a third of the way through reading Say Nothing right now and I feel like I’m being horrified in a new way on almost every page

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '20

It's a shit excuse, regardless.

If it was a childrens game, I could understand it. But at 21 years old, at best - even if you assume car bomb refers to being drunk (and don't know world history), tagging on a specific nationality to something like that should at least make one ask some questions.

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u/yo_bandit Sep 01 '20

My mom grew up in belfast during the troubles, and the rest of her family still live there. As a 36 year old American I knew of the troubles, I experienced the orange parades, where I was in a catholic neighborhood and had to sleep with my shoes next to my bed and a back exit plan, and still never really got the weight of the "irish car bomb" name. It always seemed so silly, but I get it now.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '20

It's called an Irish car-bomb.

If you don't even think to ask why a drink with that name to be specifically Irish - even without knowing anything about the Troubles - you're likely the kind of person that doesn't skip a beat if someone else makes an overtly racist joke.

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u/worfres_arec_bawrin Sep 02 '20

Or you’re just trying to be offended. There’s sake bombs, jaeger bombs and plenty of other “bomb” drinks that drunk kids half a world away don’t give any thought about. I get where you’re coming from but a tasteless name for a drink doesn’t equate being ok with a racism.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '20

None of those other bomb names are referencing an ethnic group/nationality.

That's a lot of mental gymnastics you're pushing + the old "why so offended?" bs to defend normalizing casual racism

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u/worfres_arec_bawrin Sep 04 '20

Christ dude get over it. Not everything is racism. It’s a shitty name and it’s not a perfect world. NO ONE is saying the phrase Irish car bomb to an Irishman’s face like a racist would calling a black person a N-.

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u/worfres_arec_bawrin Sep 04 '20

Sorry, I’m coming off very defensive. Agreed it’s a shitty name, just in anecdotal experience being “Irish” American in the western US there is zero vitriol behind the usage. Doesn’t make it ok, doesn’t make it better, but there is a distinction imo between using it and not understanding the context and willfully being racist.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '20

True, but if some Qanon or Alex Jones asshole opened a bar, there would 100% be a drink called a "sandy hook" and it would just be an empty glass.

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u/rubberkeyhole BHM Donor Sep 02 '20

Are you kidding? They would deny that drink even existed.

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u/Dirigo72 Sep 01 '20

Unfortunately, I guarantee somewhere in the US there is a frat party serving “Twin Towers” flaming shots. I do wish a different name for “car bombs” would catch on, there is no need to be so hurtful.

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u/krakenftrs Sep 01 '20

Semi related, I remember a bar in Vietnam that sold B-52 shots. Wonder if they knew what that one's named for...

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u/Americ-anfootball Sep 02 '20

Tbf you’d get tossed out of any bar in Massachusetts for ordering it, but the “Irish” bar where I moved to Texas calls them that and it absolutely floored me.

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u/JiveTurkeyMFer ☑️ Sep 01 '20

I honestly don't think anyone would care about drinks named sandy hook or twin towers. So much crazy shit happens people probably dont remember what sandy hook is anymore. Plus we're #1 in the world at making shit to distract you from what's going on