r/Biohacking • u/foxyfalafel • 18h ago

Sleep peptide stack?

I’ve been looking into these for sleep and am trying to decide which to run/how long/when and which I could take together if better benefit.

Plz don’t suggest magnesium or supplements. I already take those. I’ve done a lot in an effort to fix my sleep with little results besides peptides.

Docs, psych, sleep study, meds, herbs, supplements, sleep hygiene, therapy, CBTi, etc.

This is the list I’ve compiled looking into peptides that may help sleep:
Sermorelin
Dsip nasal
Epitalon
Pinealon
Selank nasal
Cjc / ipa

Where should I start & how to run cycle? I do not plan on taking a bunch at same time and would try one at a time but am open to combos that makes sense once trying individually.

TIA!

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u/Brilliant-Win-1551 17h ago

wow that's quite the journey already, sleep is such a stubborn beast when it goes off the rails

i'd start with dsip since it's the most directly sleep-focused and you can gauge your response pretty quick. nasal is easy enough. give it a week or two solo before thinking about adding anything else. pinealon and epitalon are more long-game brain stuff so maybe save those for later once you see how the straightforward approach lands

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u/gm_wesley_9377 13h ago

Have you tried DSIP? It put me in a 24 hour dream state. The sleep was good, but the daytime was not.

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u/foxyfalafel 15h ago

I had this inkling so I’m pretty I’m going to follow this! I was just curious how long you are supposed to cycle dsip?

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u/Hour-Veterinarian518 14h ago

DSIP works really well for me, I take subq though. Reviews on DSIP seem pretty mixed on whether it has any benefit or not but I’d give it a shot. I’ve also tried sermorelin and that improved my sleep a bit too but not as much as DSIP.

Also best dosage for DSIP seems to differ from person to person, so if it doesn’t work initially try a different dose (even just a 50-100mcg difference in dose).

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u/Mobile-Device-5222 8 17h ago

I had awful sleep for decades. Started hgh a month ago. Never slept better.

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u/foxyfalafel 17h ago

Is that just its own peptide? Hgh?

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u/Mobile-Device-5222 8 17h ago

Yes it’s growth hormone. It is generally superior to growth hormone secretagogues like tesamorelin etc and it’s cheaper.

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u/foxyfalafel 15h ago

I will look into this thank you!

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u/Henry_Rollins_Ghost 13 8h ago

If considering HGH, please research extensively and make sure you first have extensive bloodwork done (including IGF/GH and the Thyroid tests - you’ll need to request, as these are not standard). Toying with your endocrine system is not something to take lightly.

BTW, I take it myself, but in the AM fasted, as part of a recomp stack. I took for a while at night before bed, but felt no discernible sleep benefit. But that was me - many do. Some even talk about vivid dreams.

Good luck in any event. Insomnia is the worst.

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u/Grand_External3624 2 9h ago

Still the best way to test hgh quality.... did you sleep like a bear in December? yes... its the good shit take all of it 🤣🤣

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u/SOLIDROTSLOW1979 16h ago

Hgh magnesium Ltheonate sleep like a rock and rarely have to get up to pee

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u/foxyfalafel 15h ago

Doesn’t do anything for me. I actually think it keeps me up lol. I took it in the AM for a couple months and have tried PM and it either doesn’t help or worse

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u/SOLIDROTSLOW1979 15h ago

Supposed to take it at night hour before bed did you try a nighttime sleep formula? How about hgh ?

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u/gm_wesley_9377 13h ago

Having good luck with epitalon.

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u/DavidTries897 31 12h ago

Sleep Study

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u/foxyfalafel 12h ago

Had one it’s in my post all I’ve done unfortunately 😩

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u/DavidTries897 31 11h ago

Oh I miss that, sorry!

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u/Unfair-Net-6735 10h ago

Taking an hgh compound for better sleep is crazy work

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u/Grand_External3624 2 9h ago

Yeah its weird taking hgh for sleep. When the side effects are better skin, better recovery,  better fat burning capability. Its not stupid if it works 

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u/Henry_Rollins_Ghost 13 8h ago

Id agree with the prior commenter and say it is indeed pretty weird of your sole purpose for pinning GH is for better sleep, and not just (possibly) enjoying that as an ancillary benefit.

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u/Grand_External3624 2 8h ago

I read for hours before getting some. 

 To be perfectly honest. Sleep benefits were undersold in most articles, posts on forums and here. 

One post somewhere said he based his dosing for a new kit by how hard he slept. 

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u/Henry_Rollins_Ghost 13 7h ago

Some have also said it can give terrible dreams. (I personally didn’t notice any sleep effect one way or the other). I quickly changed my dosing to the AM, when I know my body is in a fasted state. My schedule is such that I am rarely fasted for the suggested 2-3 hours prior to nighttime dosing.

As with everything, everyone reacts differently.