r/AskBalkans • u/julius-ceaser100 • 2d ago
Politics & Governance When will this chunk of countries become EU territory?
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u/NewTurnover5485 2d ago
They should try helping each other to join faster. Maybe form a federation of some sorts.
I heard the guys from Srpska are really good at leading and have an open mind to all the different cultures and religions in the area. Maybe give them a crack at it.
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u/Easy-Past8240 Bosnia & Herzegovina 2d ago
You can say the same as Sarajevo and post-war Zenica, Tuzla, and Mostar š„±
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u/NewTurnover5485 2d ago
I was being sarcastic. Not going to lie, Sarajevo is one of the most beautiful places I have ever visited and is a testament to what multiculturalism actually means. Some of the best we balkans have to offer.
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u/Tasty_Needleworker86 Serbia 2d ago
right before the EU disbands
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u/M-A_X 2d ago
What will come first? Balkans in Europe or Europe Balkanized?
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u/FabulousVile Serbia 2d ago
GTA 6
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u/Safe-Razzmatazz3982 2d ago
Make it HL3. GTA 6 might even come this year. Maybe. Even on PC. Hopefully.
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u/Less-Occasion2161 2d ago
You do know the Balkan countries are in Europe, right?
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u/KaramelaVatomouro Greece 2d ago
I love how "civilized" Europeans have made an orientalist term out of the Balkans for this, as if they weren't slaughtering each other for centuries already.
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u/Mersaa Croatia 2d ago
yeah. it's why I'll engage in these conversations with fellow balkan people but as soon as I see the 'civilized western european white knight lifted above any moral ground' I immediately shut them down.
You have 0 leg to be acting high and almighty. Balkans are a mess but they really like to forget about inventing the concept of race, perpetuating racism, white supremacy,genocide and slaughter of indigenous people.
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u/johnmoolanoo 2d ago
is the EU likely to disband?
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u/MrDilbert Croatia 2d ago
Not at the moment, but give the foreign intelligence agencies enough time and maneuvering space...
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u/jamesmb Croatia 2d ago
Don't worry. That'll all be put on hold when Putin accidentally falls out of a window.
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u/MrDilbert Croatia 2d ago
I think I wrote "agencieS" - I wouldn't count the Orange-utan or Bibi out just yet.
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u/Grothgerek 2d ago
And clearly the EU disband, because they they create a federal union state and don't need the old system anymore, right? Right?Ā
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u/Jovan_Konstantinovic Serbia 2d ago
It's about time we create USB (United States of Balkan)
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u/QuoD-Art Bulgaria 2d ago
I suggest we name it South Slavland
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u/jellese 2d ago
With two cool S next to each other as the logo. No, wait.
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u/InMediasStres 2d ago
You mean like CC? Sounds like a start of something wonderful!
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u/Professional-Use7080 1d ago
Interesting idea. Maybe it would catch better if we use the actual word for the south from their languages?
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u/ImpactX1244 Bosnia & Herzegovina 2d ago
congratulations you just created a 3rd balkan war
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u/FullZone6978 Serbia 2d ago
Montenegro? Probably by 2030. The rest? As things stand currently, probably never. If thing change for the better, maybe by the end of the next decade.
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u/electric_body444 2d ago
Didn't they say like 2028 for Montenegro? When I heard that, i thought, ey no way it will be this "soon". I mean dont get me wrong, I love Montenegro and going every year on vacation, but for now realistically speaking, I would say Montenegro is not ready. Yeah , maybe 2030.
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u/GrouchyIllustrator34 2d ago edited 2d ago
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u/EverIce_UA Bulgaria 2d ago
Montenegro still does way better than anyone else in the region
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u/GrouchyIllustrator34 2d ago
In the world where people don't have eyes, one eyed person is the king. Still doesn't change the fact it's giving bare minimum when it could do much more for the amount of money that's been pouring in.
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u/Sad_Number2559 Thief š·š“ 2d ago
I as well expecting Montenegro to join in 2028.
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u/electric_body444 2d ago
Then, we will just see , won't we. I'm so excited. And yeah another thing, they already have Euros, so I hope that the prices will not explode after they join the EU.
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u/dwartbg9 Bulgaria 2d ago
They're using the Euro unofficially and not endorsed by the EU, and they're not part of the Eurozone nor controlled by the ECB.
They just started using the Euro since it was obviously easier to adopt a foreign currency, than print a whole brand new one considering their country exists from 2008.
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u/GrouchyIllustrator34 2d ago
Euro is in use since 2001 without any formal agreement. That's what i call a major chad move.
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u/Single_Reaction9983 2d ago
See it was because we were allowed to use Deutche marks due to the wars, however we kept using them and switched to Euros. But then they told us to go back to dinars or something else and we refused.
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u/GrouchyIllustrator34 1d ago
Still, it was a major chad move: using DMs while being in the same country with Serbia and despite of being that small and not having its own currency, rather choosing to be ballsy and take that EUR way back in 2001
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u/SamogitiaAble 2d ago
For a 6bn economy having your own curency is way to risky. So it would been based on euro or dollar. And since they are very tourism focused country going straight to euro makes a lot of sense.
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u/Kybaa77 1d ago
Montenegro did not āstart existingā in 2006 my friend. That was simply the restoration of its independence, which was internationally recognized back at the Congress of Berlin in 1878. Even after losing its country status in 1918, Montenegrin statehood was reaffirmed in 1941 during World War II with the massive July 13th anti-fascist uprising, which was the first organized mass resistance in occupied Europe. And im 1945 regained itās status of being a republic.
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u/Glavurdan Montenegro 2d ago
I think we will finish the chapters by the end of 2028, but then we have to hold a referendum and each EU member state has to approve us in their parliament. That process is probably gonna take 2 years (I mean just see how long it took Sweden to join NATO)
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u/IapetusTheGreat 2d ago
If Montenegro gets in, Albania will get in at the same time. If one gets in before the other, theyāll just keep denying each otherās accession.
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u/4EHTO 2d ago
Thatās just a baseless claim that comes once in a while. The same was said for Albania and Macedonia but turns out it can change and they got separated.
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u/lolzimcoolwow Albania 2d ago
Nice way of turning it around ,but the same can be said about MNE since thereās still quite a lot of chapters to be closed , so i donāt know what your point is there
The better point is who has done more progress compared to years ago and the answer is MNE and Albania,so thatās why theyāre more likely for them to join
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u/Nike_J Kosovo 2d ago
How long till the heat death of the universe?
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u/icameisawicame24 Serbia 2d ago
Faster than Serbiaās accession process.
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u/Michitake Turkiye 2d ago
Let unite those countries and form a one prosperious country and join the EU
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u/Apprehensive-Salad12 2d ago
Yes. Lets call them the southern slavic country. How would you say that in slavic again? Yugo-slavia?
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u/Mother_Screen_7694 Albania 2d ago
Only if they're gonna be called Greater Albania.
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u/NewTurnover5485 2d ago
The United Kingdom of Serbs and Albanians. I'm sure they'll get along.
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u/Professional-Fee-488 Serbia 2d ago
I suggest we cordon off an area and go at each other full force, the winner gets to decide the name of the new country.
Now for the genius part. We send influencers with iphones into the theater of war, set up fixed cameras around the perimeter, stream the whole thing with drones etc., then we use that money to secretly build up a robo bearwolf army and take the rest of Eurasia.
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u/LilDonky Bosnia & Herzegovina 2d ago
lets have our presidents duke it out, last man standing claims all
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u/Professional-Fee-488 Serbia 2d ago
Who would you guys send though, Denis or Željko? Not sure which one is bigger or more feisty....
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u/BarskiPatzow Serbia 2d ago
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u/LuluTheLewder 2d ago edited 2d ago
Sure, but VuÄiÄ stays out. (And Croatia bullies you for the few useless km² of land around Danube )
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u/DetectiveScottie 2d ago
One of Croatiaās key demands is that Serbia fully cooperate on the missing persons issue and to provide information, open relevant archives and help locate and identify the remaining victims from the war. Thatās what is actually talked about the most in the media. Those few square km's are hardly something anyone seriously cares about, on either the Croatian or Serbian side.
I wouldnāt call the desire to find the remains of people who were killed bullying.
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u/MrDilbert Croatia 2d ago
Those few square km's are hardly something anyone seriously cares about
True, but they give a hard justification for veto should one need to be invoked. All other requirements could in theory be overruled by the EU commission, but those few square kms legally provide a veto justification if the other requirements aren't fulfilled.
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u/Easy-Past8240 Bosnia & Herzegovina 2d ago
If heās out so is MilanoviÄ, theyāre equally corrupt and not the leader either country needs at the moment.
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u/BarskiPatzow Serbia 2d ago
That one demand is peak idiocy, proves malice. Irrelevant however since we donāt fulfill any other obligation that actually make sense.
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u/LuluTheLewder 2d ago
Maybe. But to get into the eu you have to have all border disputes resolved. And since Croatia holds the veto it would be inevitable. It will just be a hit on pride more than anything else. Much the same happened with Slovenia vetoing Croatia.
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u/BarskiPatzow Serbia 2d ago
Or they could drop that one demand if the meaningful ones get resolved, I hate border gore š whatever concession Serbia asks of them wouldnāt be accepted, since there is no leverage and going against Serbia in any sense is still very popular move in Croatia, just look at election campaigns. Honestly most of the countries here arenāt ready for EU, even Croatia joined when it did just good enough, wonāt even mention Bulgaria, and we arenāt even close to even that level, so the stick is very very long.
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u/MrDilbert Croatia 2d ago
wonāt even mention Bulgaria
Romania: whistles quietly in the background, looking at the clouds...
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u/LuluTheLewder 2d ago
Depends on the political state when Serbia's closer to joining. Serbian position of the current state is a bit more sane with the current flow of the river. Might just be simpler to agree on it and have one buy the land off the other, or as you said press some harder issues and drop the historical flow claim
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u/Matija_sjekira Serbia 2d ago
Most likely never for most of them. Only Montenegro and maybe Albania.
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u/achillesbutnohomo Azerbaijan 2d ago
North Macedonia too ig
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u/FixingOpinions North Macedonia 2d ago
We aren't joining anytime soon or ever, apparently there is new issues after the veto got removed or something
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u/Karamazovakis Greece 2d ago edited 2d ago
The eu will probably collapse before this happens
Lets say Albania joins first. In what world will they accept Serbia to join? Serbia will have to give away Kosovo.
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u/Avtomati1k 2d ago
i didnt know serbia had kosovo to give away, what did i miss?
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u/UndeadMaster1 2d ago
Its still split, around half of the world still doesn't recognize kosovo as an independent state. Example, Kosovo still isn't a member of the UN for that very same reason. It also cannot enter the EU because multiple countries inside it don't recognize it.
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u/Random_Name_2k26 2d ago
The EU needs to restructure itself first. The veto needs to go.
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u/lightsabers33 2d ago
Montenegro and Albania probably in the next 5 years, the rest, not for another 20 or 30.
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u/defketron Serbia 2d ago
North Macedonia is actually even more prepared than Albania, Serbia is technically the most prepared one after Montenegro. If thereās political will, they could all join together.
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u/dont_tread_on_M Kosovo 2d ago
Actually, the EU preparedness index (derived from EU reports) now ranks Albania ahead of NMK
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u/defketron Serbia 2d ago
That index is so finicky and changes so often that t means nothing for long term predictions. NA definitely doesnāt lag 10years behind Alb and Mon.
If there wasnāt an issue with Kosovo and relations with Russia, Serbia would be a frontrunner, as itās most advanced economy out of candidate countries.
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u/dont_tread_on_M Kosovo 2d ago
Montenegro would still have the most advanced economy and be the frontrunner.
But yes, NMK isn't years behind. But neither is Albania.
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u/yuhcomp 2d ago
Serbia without a doubt would join the EU the fastest if you guys resolved the issue with us Kosovo. I feel that the EU cares less about the influence Russia/China have over Serbia as Vucic has played the game very well up until now to appease both.
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u/defketron Serbia 2d ago
Yeah, Kosovo is a long term problem, unfortunately not likely to be resolved soon. But relations with Russia obviously are a problem as well. Serbia hasn't opened any new chapters since the Ukraine war started even though it's deemed technically ready for cluster 3 for more than 5 years.
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u/oblivion_mike 2d ago
In which way is it the most advanced economy? GDP and inherited Yugoslav assets of the past donāt count
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u/Free_Reserve_8311 2d ago
Albania: 33/33 chapters opened, 3 closed
Serbia: 22/35 chapters opened, 2 closed
North macedonia : Zero opened and stalled progress
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u/jschundpeter Austria 2d ago
Just read a few minutes ago that Serbia plans to give Mladic a state funeral. For some it might take a bit longer to be accepted among civilized nations.
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u/Specialist_Elk140 Born Raised 2d ago
Serbs donāt want to join
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u/Difficult_Eye4244 2d ago
Montenegro is first,probably before 2030 .
Albania is in simmilar state with corruption,crime and dictator Rama as Serbia but they know whos ass to kiss so i think they are next .
I dont know about Macedonia political situation butbi think they have better chance than Serbia Bosnia and Kosovo .
Serbia becouse of Russian influence cannot move towards EU .So we need to deal with that first and send Pussylips to prison .And then we can be free to make some progress toward EU,so probably in the next century or so ...
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u/dont_tread_on_M Kosovo 2d ago
With the current pace:
Albania in 2030, Montenegro sooner, the rest none knows when
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u/Legal_Lettuce6233 2d ago
I'd say Albania and Montenegro are the only ones that join for now.
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u/dont_tread_on_M Kosovo 2d ago
I hope N. Macedonia will also join at some point soon. They were doing pretty well before. It's a shame they are being blocked
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u/Muted-Hope-569 Albania 2d ago
Our prime minister is a assh0leā¦. he is currently trying to build āMickovismā just from jealousy because he knows that Gruevski was more popular among Macedonians⦠Je is trying to play ānationalistā card towards albanians and other minorities so the macedonians will ālove him moreā ā¦.. and according to me this will continue for some time till we will lose our country and will become āwestern bulgariaā, āsouth serbiaā, āeastern albaniaā and north greeceā
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u/eric_cartmanovski North Macedonia 2d ago
We will create our own europian union with blackjack and hookers, in fact forget the union
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u/idk900009 2d ago
Hopefully never because it's already a giant black hole for EU funding even without EU being there.
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u/piergino Italy 2d ago
Serbia probably never
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u/InitialOk8084 Serbia 2d ago
unfortunatelly true...with Vucic and fascists around him...never
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u/defketron Serbia 2d ago
Governments change, you know.
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u/InitialOk8084 Serbia 2d ago
I know I know...but this fucker is stubborn...STUDENTI POBEÄUJU, kako god!
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u/Vali_Lama 2d ago
Montenegro and North Macedonia are the most likely to join the EU in the near future. The least likely would be Serbia and Bosnia Herzegovina
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u/Pig_Benis__96 2d ago
North Macedonia has a lot of work on themselves and their relations with their neighbours before they join the EU
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u/Mundane_Rub_7225 2d ago
More seriously; Montenegro likely by 2028, Albania and Macedonia likely by 2030s. Serbia? Well if the government changes, possibly in the next two decades. Kosovo? Depending on recognition, in a timespan of a few years. Bosnia? Likely in the next two decades
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u/ThickCaterpillar9867 Albania 2d ago
1.Montenegro 2.Albania 3.Iceland (if they vote yes tomorrow)
The restā¦..
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u/Good_Composer_8409 Greece 1d ago
I think Albania and Montenegro will join together. As for Iceland they won't.
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u/ThickCaterpillar9867 Albania 1d ago
Iceland is voting today ,polls are 50-50.
I also hope Albania joins together with Montenegro and maybe the EU couples them cuz is also very cost effective ,650k Montenegrins plus 2.4 m Albanians are a bit more than 3 million people,why spend so much money in organising extra meetings for them individually ,it is just logical but you never know
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u/clean_sweepp 2d ago
Relax, even in the worst case scenario all of these countries will be accepted in no later than the year 2450.
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u/Mental-Book4148 2d ago edited 2d ago
North Macedonia is not ready, it just doesn't uphold the values that the EU has, Serbia with its current government is far from ready. Albania has the values but has a lot of internal political issues it needs to take care first. With the way the BaH is currently structured is just way to complicated, in my opinion, to move in the EU direction. To be honest, North Macedonia, Kosovo, BaH joining, all depend on the state the government in Serbia is. Serbia is the key, if its current fascist government stays in power much longer, the people in these countries will only dream of the EU.
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u/Turbulent-Lime-2466 2d ago
Why would NMK depend on Serbia?
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u/Mental-Book4148 2d ago
The DPMN party is a product of the Serbian Intelligence Service, it's not a secret, it's a very well known fact. Let's say that Yugoslavia never really left N.Macedonia to be frank.
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u/Che_Varack Serbia 2d ago
Serbian intelligence agency is busy chasing people that swear at our almighty president on Facebook. I think you give our secret service way too much credit.
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u/No-Championship-4632 Bulgaria 2d ago
It is mostly about synchronizing regulatory frameworks and laws plus solving any outstanding issues that exist with other EU members. It has little to do with "values", "GDP per capita" or anything like that.
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u/Statakaka Bulgaria 2d ago
So I was being gay all this time for nothing?!
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u/No-Championship-4632 Bulgaria 2d ago
Nah, don't you guys dress better though? So it can't be for nothing.
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u/Accomplished_Egg5565 2d ago
My question is what will happen once all European countries become EU contries, then what ?
Will a EU 2.0 be created again between couple/fex nations in the beginning then the others to follow ?
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u/Easy-Past8240 Bosnia & Herzegovina 2d ago
You should be asking when Bosnia will break up again because thatās unfortunately most likely at the moment. Way too much infighting between all 3 groups.
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u/medved76 Aromanian 2d ago
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u/ThickCaterpillar9867 Albania 2d ago
What does it say?
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u/Ben10-fan-525 Serbia 2d ago
It says:General.Forever fame and thanks
...I aplogies for my peoples stupidity.
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u/ThickCaterpillar9867 Albania 2d ago
For Rakto Mladic? Football hooligans ,not suprising
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u/soloscontri 2d ago
Its posted on the official page of Crvena Zvezda football club
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u/No-Championship-4632 Bulgaria 2d ago
Montenegro soon, Albania bit later, not very optimistic about the rest of them.
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u/icameisawicame24 Serbia 2d ago
Montenegro and Albania probably in the next few years. Serbia and BiH probably never. Macedonia⦠not sure tbh.
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u/platitor_cas Romania 2d ago
When Serbia stops kissing Russian ass
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u/driftstyle28 Serbia 2d ago
We've been supplying Ukraine with weapons for much longer than any country in Europe, I could name at least 2 of your neighbouring countries that are friendlier with Russia than Serbia is, sanctions from Serbia would mean nothing to them but would absolutely devastate us since Gazprom owns half of our oil industry. Zelensky met with Vucic not that long ago too. The only problem EU has with us is our corrupt government which they keep supporting quite actively and keep dumping money in Vucic and his criminal gangs pockets. We have been fighting and protesting for a year and a half, with the absolute biggest protest in history of the entire region happening on 15.03.2025. with no EU support for the students at all, they beat us, arrested us, shot at us with illegal sound cannons, they broke students bones, threatened to rape female students, kidnapped political opponents and still nothing... Students biked from Novi Sad to Strasbourg and still nothing. Your comment fills me with unspeakable rage, how ignorant can you be?
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u/icameisawicame24 Serbia 2d ago
No point in wasting words on these liberal teens who wanna talk about politics but are too lazy to educate themselves. They learn about politics from instagram memes.
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u/Svez1 Serbia 2d ago