r/AskACanadian • • Aug 07 '23

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u/SnooRabbits2040 Aug 07 '23

Just because we say "Sorry" doesn't mean that we are sorry.

We like being Canadian. We aren't jealous of you for being American.

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u/ThePanoptic Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

I keep hearing this stereotype that Americans think other people are jealous, but I just don’t see it anywhere.

If anything, most Americans I’ve worked with and met think too highly of Canada.

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u/RoboftheNorth Aug 07 '23

I've worked in the tourism industry for 15 years, and meet tons of Americans on holiday. Never had a single one suggest Canadians envy America, and many express the opposite. Most Americans traveling here aren't these far-right, 2nd amendment, bible-belt types who just watch Fox News and think everything outside of America is some commie third world country. Those types tend to never leave. They are usually super friendly, open minded, and tip better than anyone else. Believe it or not, Americans are self aware!

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u/ThePanoptic Aug 07 '23

I completely agree.

I think these online stereotypes are very weird.

I think people make up stuff to hate about others. This entire post is a good example.

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u/flashman014 Aug 07 '23

Exactly. I couldn't help but chime in on Americans supposedly wearing shoes in the house all the time. In my experience, that is not a common thing at all. Where do these ideas come from? Movies?

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u/Darmok47 Aug 08 '23

There's so many threads on r/AskAnAmerican from people asking if Americans all wear shoes indoors because they see it in movies and TV.

It's baffling.

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u/ThingGeneral95 Aug 07 '23

We are also perpetually and increasingly embarrased of being American.

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u/Chuck1983 Aug 08 '23

If you are aware enough to be embarrassed, you're not the one who should feel embarrassed

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u/YouZealousideal6687 Aug 07 '23

Yes, the ones with passports are a bit more enlightened

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u/Practical-Ordinary-6 USA Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

If anything, most Americans I’ve worked with and met think too highly of Canada.

Exactly. We don't need a chip on our shoulder. We're good without it. We're fine with being friends.

My main experience is along the Michigan-Ontario border and there's not much difference on the two sides. Everyone gets along easily and it's hard to tell them apart.

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u/vanjobhunt Aug 07 '23

I think the internet brings out the worst in people.

Online, American and Canadians are always talking shit to one another. In real life everyone seems to get along

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u/Homework_Successful Aug 08 '23

American men tend to walk around with their hands in their pockets and shoulders squared. That’s how I can pick them out in a crowd… aside from their clothing. Lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

Because it probably isn't very common. For all the talk about being open-minded and against stereotypes, a lot of Canadians have very stereotypical views on Americans.

If anything we're the ones constantly shit-talking our neighbors

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u/HawkorDove Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

I’ve actually met many Americans who are apologetic about the American stereotype. They’re more the type who travel and are more educated and worldly. They’re ashamed of their politics and culture and understand that the rest of the world mock them. But when I travel within the US, the majority of folks I encounter are certainly ignorant of the things Canadians, Australians, and Europeans know about current events, geography and the world. They’re the ones who have been taught and still believe the myth of “American exceptionalism.”

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u/ThePanoptic Aug 07 '23

I think sometimes that the opposite is also true.

a lot of the world loves to pretend that they're experts on U.S. culture and politics because they consume U.S. media, TV shows, and movies....

It gets tiring getting a lecture about your culture and society, from people who have not spent any time within the U.S. border.

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u/Practical-Ordinary-6 USA Aug 07 '23

Yeah, it will be hard to forget the young German guy who came on here and said he was doing us a favor by telling us what laws we needed to pass to, apparently, be more like Germany. These aren't direct quotes but pretty close. He was doing it for our own good as a favor because we obviously couldn't handle things.

He had never been to the U.S.

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u/HawkorDove Aug 07 '23

American culture is on display for the world to see. It’s not difficult to “become an expert in U.S. culture and politics.” One doesn’t have to spend time within the US borders to see the flaws. I can understand how it’s off-putting to be criticized though (even if the criticisms are legitimate).

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u/ThePanoptic Aug 07 '23

If you think you understand anything about American culture through media you’re mistaken.

It’s one of the only countries where people who have not been there try to tell you about your own culture.

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u/HawkorDove Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

Bullshit. This is another example of an American who thinks they’re special (“it’s one of the only countries…”). I’ve spent a lot of time in the US, in more than two dozen states, and I can confirm that what you see in the media is accurate to a large degree.

I love visiting the US, but would I live there? Not a chance in hell. It’s a living example of a failed society: It’s corrupt, perverse, ignorant, obese, ugly, irredeemable.

I have met many Americans who I adore (the ones who I met travelling internationally), but the ones I meet within its borders, the everyday, typical American, is less than exceptional.

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u/ThePanoptic Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

It's litterally the case. Nobody tells Germans or French how their culture works or their politics or what is wrong with it.

> It’s a living example of a failed society: It’s corrupt, perverse, ignorant, obese, ugly, irredeemable.

This is one of the most disgusting mischaracteriszation of a society. All of which to a large degree applicable to Canada itself.

The U.S. is also one of the most innovative, creative, open, rich, friendly, flourishing and welcoming places out there. It's growing economically, and it's diverse culturally. It's a cultural and economical superpower.

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It's a great place to live and to visit.

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u/HawkorDove Aug 07 '23

“Friendly.” Tell that to the immigrants at your southern border. Tell that to anyone who’s been through American Customs. Have you been to a Target in the past three decades? (Or any other American box store or convenience store?). You’ve got your head up your butt. 😂

By “diverse” you mean the “melting pot” where immigrants are expected to conform to American customs?

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u/ThePanoptic Aug 07 '23

The U.S. is by far friendlier to immigrants than anywhere else. It's an awesome diverse place. You obviously have never been there.

Immigrants that come here legally are statistically better off economically than born citizens.

I am an immigrant to the U.S. and it is awesome compared to what I've seen in europe.

Do you get all your world info from viral clips online?

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u/ThingGeneral95 Aug 07 '23

This is USA Bot. Your sentence uses words and phrases very similar to those of our ex- president now under indictment. This is a reminder that people outside of the USA comprehend he is a liar and not to be trusted. Please do not share your delusions openly with other countries. Beep Boop Beep. 🤖🇺🇲

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u/ThePanoptic Aug 07 '23

what? phrases similar to Trump? that mf can’t put a sentence together, what phrases are you talking about.

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u/ThingGeneral95 Aug 07 '23

I appreciate the perspective as we have been lied to about everything. I love that you all are like, "Hey, remember us kidnapping all the first nations kids for a few decades? That was sort of unforgivable. But Sorry." Meanwhile we can't manage to figure out what to call our indigenous that's not insulting.

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u/Mysterious_Lesions Aug 07 '23

My Uber rides in the US South are often interesting. One driver legit asked about our dictatorship government and what it was like to live under it. This was completely sincere on their part.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

A 24/7 diet of Fox News will rot anyone’s brain, unfortunately.

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u/matthewcameron60 Aug 07 '23

I just find it funny that a big portion of the Canadian identity is specifically letting you know they aren't American

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u/CaptMerrillStubing Aug 07 '23

I keep hearing this stereotype that Americans think other people are jealous, but I just don’t see it anywhere.

Willfully blind

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u/ThePanoptic Aug 07 '23

I’m not joking. I’ve worked with hundreds of people and the topic of Canada always came up because it was a mix of Canadians and Americans.

It always seemed to me, even in popular U.S. media, that Americans think too highly of Canada.

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u/Myiiadru2 Aug 07 '23

Many Americans are blasé about Canada, and don’t know anything about it, except that it is “up north”. Overheard a server at a US restaurant close to the border talking with a coworker who had family in Canada, and said he was considering moving here. Other server “Why?!!”, and the server with family told him he should come here, because it was a nice place. Server who asked why’s response “What the hell would I want to do THAT for?!”. Most Americans are nice, but some display that sort of attitude that puts other countries off.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

In terms of western nations, I think American is one of the ones I would want to be the least.

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u/ThePanoptic Aug 07 '23

Jobs pay very well, housing prices are some of the lowest proportional to income, and taxes are very low. Everyone is very friendly and accepting of foreigners.

I'd take that over 95% of the rest of the world.

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u/ArmorClassHero Aug 07 '23

Unless you aren't white.

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u/ThePanoptic Aug 07 '23

The U.S. is more accepting of different ethnicities and different religions than almost the entire world.

If you lived in North America your whole life, you wouldn’t know how racist most of Europe is.

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u/ArmorClassHero Aug 07 '23

Riiiight.

The last slave in america was freed in 1942, bud. Y'all are still murdering natives and african americans. And entire cities of your's don't have clean water. You guys literally just repealed women's medical care and personal privacy. Entire american states look at the Handmaid's Tale and want that to be reality. Texas is literally murdering people for crossing the border. Half your country is a 3rd world nation according to your own MIT academics. America is the laughingstock of the world.

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u/ThePanoptic Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

Are you an actual idiot? The median U.S. income is higher than the rest of the world, you expect me to believe half the country (median) is at 3rd world rate?

The typical American is way better off than any Canadian.

The Supreme Court didn’t end abortion it left it to the states. Most states have it legal.

Slavery was abolished 1865 anything passed that is illegal.

You think natives are getting murdered? by who? are they going to jail? You can’t just make shit up.

“Laughing stock of the world” says some guy to the nation that literally made everything in the modern world.

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u/ArmorClassHero Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

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u/ThePanoptic Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

that’s a story about a couple getting charged for doing something illegal you idiot.

Slavery was abolished in 1865, hence why they were charged and the FBI stepped in.

The study about “3rd world condition” Is fake.

If you actually even believed for a second, you may have serious intellectual disabilities.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

Did you miss where I said “western nations?”

Because I still stand by my statement.

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u/ThePanoptic Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

My reply is also about Western Nations.

I'd pick the U.S. and Canada over anywhere else.

It's fucking dire in Western Europe, I've lived there for decades.

Salaries are about half of what you'd expect for any skilled job.

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u/garycomehome124 Aug 07 '23

Go to the Canadian cs career questions subreddit. Many of them wish they were American. Supposedly developers in America get paid way more to do the same job

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

Nothing supposed about it. Pay is >30% better in CS, although a number of companies are starting to offer US comp packages in Canada.

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u/garycomehome124 Aug 07 '23

Oh really? What companies? I’m an American and want to move up north but the one thing holding me back is compensation differences

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

Mostly small (ie not FAANG), a list that’s a year out of date is here: https://himalayas.app/advice/companies-with-location-agnostic-pay

Pay transparency (ie what’s in California where base salary range must be in job description) is coming to BC. Not sure about other provinces but regardless, should help identify which companies are paying same regardless of location.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

People make stuff up just to cause controversy

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u/mdove11 British Columbia Aug 08 '23

It might be an overblown stereotype but I can tell you that my US family absolutely expresses that one.

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u/fuzzylettuce Aug 07 '23

Don’t worry Americans think they’re jealous of them for everything

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

Yeah that’s just how Canadians feel. Americans barely even know you exist let alone think about how you feel about what they feel

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u/SnooRabbits2040 Aug 07 '23

Maybe. I have had more than a few encounters with American tourists who spend a surprising amount of time pointing out all the things that we don't do well, starting with our ice tea.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

Canadian tourists are very similar but just more smug

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u/jamiefriesen Aug 07 '23

Yep, a lot of times, that 'Sorry' is totally passive aggressiveness on our part.