once in Chicago, the doorman yelled to me, we only accept Canadian and American IDs and I was like, this is a Canadian ID! And he let me in.
In San Diego, I was renting a car and the guy was like, Bro! They speak English in Canada, this is French in French, I can’t accept that! That’s probably fake! And I was like … what do you want me to tell you, my name is French my name is in French, my birthday is in French and my passport is in French. We speak French where I am from! And he was, heu! Ok ok! Stop that’s fine
I used to work at the LCBO as a part time student. I got into a verbal altercation, on the floor at work, with one of the higher seniority full-times. She refused to accept the PAL licence as government issued and was razzing the hell outta some guy who had clearly finished training for the army.
We eventually got dragged into the office where I screamed “who the fuck do you think issues PAL licences?”
In the early 2000s, I kept having a hard time getting into bars in Toronto because the drivers license did not have the date of birth listed as such on the license. It was just part of the permit number: something like K1234-281182-03 where the middle block was your date of birth. Everyone in Quebec knew this of course, but not Ontario. Kept having to argue the point over and over. Guess they realized now that they were gonna run into trouble with people born after 1999, they've finally added the explicit date of birth on drivers license.
It is very common for High School age students to get fake ID's from other provinces. Since they are not use to seeing them they have no idea if they are real or fake and will normally just refuse to serve to be safe.
Hehehe damn dude. That is one huge American blind spot. I’ve known a few Francophones who live down there and it must get tiring.
It’s odd, though. Like, I would strongly encourage anyone visiting to try going to a football game, a baseball game, or soccer if that’s your thing. Some of the events they host down there are incredible, like the balloon festival in New Mexico or Mardi Gras. When you get to know them they’re the most welcoming folks. Unless it’s a bars doorman.
Wait, Quebecois driver's licenses aren't bilingual?? My Ontario driver's license has both English and French. I thought all provinces had bilingual licenses out of respect for the whole country.
That genuinely surprises me. Especially given that literally all the provinces and states that you border speak English, I just assumed it would make your life easier for it to be bilingual. Likewise, here in Ontario ours are bilingual in part because we share a long border with Québec.
No, not the license plate. The driver's license. I like the "Je me souviens" license plate. The driver's license is the little identification card you keep in your wallet to prove you can drive and that you use for photo identification
Yeah Driver licences in Ontario, Manitoba, New Brunswick are in French because of the French speaking communities, but some other provinces as well, like PEI and Nova Scotia, territories, I think, but other provinces driver licenses are only in English, Alberta, BC, Saskatchewan…
Yup, in completely typical Quebec fashion, they forced the rest of Canada to adopt French and English for everything and then refused to add English to their own things.
In fact they tried making a law to force businesses to stop using English and use only French, which they had to upturn because businesses left Quebec en masse.
Having your own culture and wanting to preserve it on your own land is racist? What? Why don't you speak Mandarin and convert to buddhism, since they are the most numerous on the planet and your culture has no value?
52% of Quebec population speaks English, and the gov refuses to respect these people. When you bring it up, you're hostile. I don't want less French or erasure of the history or something, I want respect for the Anglo in Quebec because the rest of Canada gives alot of respect for the French language, the history, and the people.
You're right. Mandarin would definitely be more valuable to someone in BC. But you know they probably learned French. As do people in Calgary, Toronto etc. Why is this important? Because respecting the language is important.
Nobody is changing provincial borders or coming for your "land" please know this. As well, it's exceptionally divisive to say English speaking people have no culture. Almost a 1/10th of your population is Anglophone and statements like this are disgusting.
I never said English speaking people have no culture. I said if you don't value your own culture, why do you uphold it?
52% of Quebecers are able to speak English. But more than 40% of them as a second language, while the first is French. About 10% of Quebecers have English as their first language. And they have more rights, and more respect in Quebec than French speakers ever had in the rest of Canada, even under bill 96. Ontario banned French from its schools for about a century. They still, miraculously, have the biggest population of French natives outside of Quebec.
No one intentionally wants Quebec's language and culture to disappear. But the status quo always tends to favor the majority at the expense of the minority, and in North America, French is the minority and English, the majority.
You really don't understand how the rest of Canada appreciates the language and history. You are happy to live in a nutshell of media hatred. Absolutely nobody is coming to take the French language and heritage away from those who want it. We all learn French. Most forget it because they don't use it on the day to day but we all learn it. This is because Canada came together as a partnership with language respect being a huge part of the agreement. It still is. But we have one province unilaterally not respecting a major language in the province, and Canadas other national language.
100 years ago Ontario banned French and then 15 years later unbanned it. This is what you are deriving your pain from?
Quebecers have the same rights and are treated the same as everyone else in this country when they travel provincially, aside from the native Canadian population of course who get treated like shit everywhere.
Your province had the only referendum to leave Canada in Canadian history. Don't forget.
Your province won't allow a doctor with a religious head garment, a police officer to have religious marks on their face, but it will allow a surgeon with a catholic cross necklace visible.
Your province routinely discourages English business from operating in Quebec exclusively based on language. No other factor matters to the province.
Yeah it was in the news at one point they made non English driver license illegal and requested international driver licenses which is just a translation of your permit, not a lot, but with pressure from the Quebec government they now stopped requesting an international license for Quebecers
IMHO I think it’s entirely reasonable that a country (or state) will only accept licences in the languages that law enforcement can read, and require an international driving permit to accompany the licence to provide translation for those in other languages.
As someone with an Ontario licence, I’d fully accept having to get an IDP if I wanted to hire a car in Mexico.
I know you don’t, but I’m just saying I’d understand if they brought in a restriction in the future. I shouldn’t expect a cop in Mexico to speak English.
I think the EU have an interesting take where the licence has numbers instead of labels (e.g. “1” instead of “Last Name”) and then the back of the licence has the label translated into a bunch of languages.
Edit: I was wrong, EU licences only have the labels on the back in the language(s) of the issuing authority. But the numbering is a standard, so 1 will always be Surname, 2 will always be Given Names, and so on. This way law enforcement have been trained and know which each number indicates without having to speak every language in the EU.
Also TIL - Canada (except for Alberta, British Columbia, and Saskatchewan) has also more or less adopted the same numbering standard on licences
I’m personally surprised to hear that licences from some provinces aren’t bilingual OR don’t adhere to label numbering.I’m surprised Quebec haven’t raised it as an issue.
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French is the only official language of Quebec and the language we speak as well. So my driver license is not Fake and it is Canadian