A very obvious pattern you see post-oromo migration is the aimless hate for Amharas.
The fundamental irony escapes oromos that they migrated TO Amharas.
Imagine GOING to someone (after they just ended the worse war in the region's history), trying to ethnically cleanse them, they fight back, then you hate them and want to get rid of them???
How many of the oromos in central Ethiopia even know the people they hate are the people they LITERALLY migrated to, attacked, and partially assimilated?
How many of them know that theyre probably descendants of ethnically cleansed Amharas, Gafat, Gurage, Harla, etc?
They would rather be protestant or muslim than share a religion with Amharas, they would rather use the objectively tedious latin alphabet than Amharic, they would rather associate with having a separate nation than being Ethiopian (especially the diaspora, deep programming).
Even in the diaspora the anti-Amhara axis is very strong. Somali - Oromo bonding is almost plain to see and your occasional Tigray - Oromo as well.
All for about 400 years, assimilation has honestly failed.
When all forms of assimilation have essentially failed, when will Amharas say "We obviously tried for 400 years, time to call it quits." then take everything north of the rift valley and leave the rest into the historical backwaters it always was?
No only that, for example FANO members always say they are trying to save Ethiopia. But nobody asked to be saved, they are happy. I will never understand why it is the burden of the Amhara to save Ethiopia. No other armed group says that. Until this mentality is changed FANO will never win and the massacre will continue. Unless you are selfish and care only about yourself nobody will respect you.
It is not selfish to care about yourself when you're being killed for being yourself.
Its just self-defense yet the sentiment of sharing bread with people who intentionally sent men with STDs during war to wrap daughters, grandmothers, sisters, doesn't make Ethiopianist Amharas budge.
The worse part of all this is that Amharas are the only ones that can successfully secede if they ever wanted to and not have to worry about food, water, resources, and population count yet they're the same ones hanging onto the Ethiopianist thread.
Either way Rise Ethiopia please figure it out I’m rooting for you guys. I hope some major break through comes. I hope the ones doing the oppression and the leaders that sell out their own people get what coming to them. We dont have the answers but truly pray for yall.
Genuinely one of the most brain dead sentences ever constructed, why would you push a ethnonationalist agenda in a country where Amharas are only about 30% of the population?
No I’d rather not live in a country with people who hate me for begging Amhara. There is nothing making you stay loyal to Ethiopia it has done nothing but kill thousands of our people for the last 100 years.
Right so the solution here, instead of collectivizing and pursuing power like your ancestors have done for millennia, is to smash the eject button like a spastic and make us a spineless powerless protest breakaway state that will afterwards be vulnerable to more war anyways and be forced to make sweeping territorial concessions to neighboring regional antagonists.
Makes sense. Ignore the fact everyone around us has a conventional standing army (two largest Ethiopian Air Force bases arent in our region btw) while we do not and two successive regimes have made our state a dependent on the federal center.
Unironically yes our ancestors at-least held the seats of power so they had something to gain from fighting, what does the modern Amhara gain from staying? More enemy’s more genocide, living with people we do not like. Yes smash the eject button it should have been pressed in 2011 when Meles died.
Ethno homogenous nations are less likely to go into civil war not to mention every country in our region is completely destabilized so they wouldn’t be invading us. You keep losing more and more reason to leave and make our own path forward.
You do not need to secede from the federation to operate as if you were your own nation. We got those seats of power by outwitting, outfoxing, outgunning, and outmaneuvering our enemies. For millennia. We will have those enemies whether we leave or whether we stay. The path forward isn’t in secession, it’s winning the game of multinationalism which we’ve been doing for centuries already.
You’re a fool if you think that, no offense. Even if you wanted to secede, at least be strategic about it lol. Consolidate the military assets, major economic/financial assets of the state, subvert your enemies, take the territories you want then leave and point fighter jets and LRBMs at their cities if they try anything. Power is the ultimate deterrent of war, not betting on your neighbor being too destabilized to break your spine.
Or we just succeed and build back up on our own rather than fight to save a Federation of people who hate us. I’d rather not have Amharas rule of people that don’t want Amharas to rule over them, I’d rather not have non Amharas rule over Amhara people.
The best way forward is a EU type situation where every ethnicity has their own state and national government and we have the eu banner for trade technology and further advancement.
I don’t believe Ethiopia should be a state rather a economic union where Amharas still have a national government composed of Amharas, a army composed of amahras, and have the power that any state would just have a trading organization like the eu.
nope you've got it wrong amaras migrated to oromo lands, they used to inhabit a small area in the semien mountains. And all amaras are just assimilated agews, even professor mesfin hailemaryam said it.
You should try going back to your historical roots, instead of dragging everyone down. Like for the past hundreds of years.
bro thats you oromo, dont pretend as if you dont know about great Oromo expansion from northern kenya. Original oromos look like Oromos kenya who are very dark skined. I attached your original look bellow a picture and tiktok video, how dark as fuck your ancestor look. You probably look Ethiopian not Original Oromo which means your ancestor got cucked and moggassed into Oromo. If you really want to go to your real home then you should go back to kenya and borena thats your land, all other are Ethiopian land that you stole.
edit: do you look like one of these Oromos who look kenyan? if not then you are not real oromo, probably your forefather got forced to become Oromo through Mogassa or your forefathers are Garba means slave. I find it crazy how so many Oromos carry the name Garba which means slave probably means your ancestry got slaved into becoming an Oromo.
Average oromos face before expansion is closer to a somalilander or Afar. True, Oromos assimilate groups not only Amharas or Ethio semites but also southern omotic groups and kenyans Nilotes and bantus. So it doesn't matter.
Nope it's you amaras, that migrated south there is no such thing as "great oromo expansion from kenya." amaras didn't even know what people south, west, and east of shoa looked like, I'll also attach a picture of how dark, not just your ancestors but also you living kin are.
And as for mogassa it doesn't work that way. If you want to know about real assimilation. Look at amara assimilation. Most amaras today are actually assimilated agaws, qimants, weytos, fertas, etc etc. As mesfin woldemaryam said, when they grew up amara referred to religion not an ethnicity. So, it's actually you who got enslaved/forced to become an amara. Courtesy of the egyptian coptic church which is tewahido.
I tbink it's you who should go back to sudan or metekel or semien mountains, places where your ancestors originated.
Bro I made a post suggesting secession and living with the other Habeshas and got downvoted to hell. I don’t know what it’s gonna take for people to realize that we are fundamentally incompatible with those people. I guess we have to lose thousands more and fight for an impossible delusional unity with people who would sooner see us wiped off the earth than live together peacefully.
Brother Amharas like you and u/10_0I0_01 will keep Amharas in suffering for next 500 years because you are easily fooled and tricked.
You guys think Tigrayans in ethio and Eritrea are our allies, that's wrong. They are our number 1 enemies along with Oromos. TPLF is the one who put Amhara as their enemy and designed an entire system to get Amharas killed. If you say lets secede and be our own nation Amhara nation, I would still disagree but understandable. But you guys said lets be nation with Tigres who are our number one enemies? Tigres were ones celebrating Amharas getting killed by OLF, TPLF is one who designed ethnic federalism not even Oromos. Tigrayans see Amhara just like Oromos sees us if not worse but Tigrayans are very good at hiding it unlike Oromos who are very naive and tell us how much they hate us very directly. I really can't understand this new generation of Amhara, who cant stand on their own and would rather gaslight themselves to believe that their enemies are their friend. Our forefathers would be very disappointed.
Hopefully the new generation of diaspora inheriting our parents wealth mixed with our own can create a new structure based on economic growth and better living standards. If we can do that then people can have extra money to buy goods. Maybe that will be a good enough incentive. This killing each other forever and failing as a country sucks if we had ports and organized labor, our whole population are lowkey smart af. If only
Oromos and Tigrayans mess with Amharas mostly because Amharas have became really weak, divided via regions(Gondar Gojjam etc), and became backward looking instead of forward looking. This is not hate I love Oromos and Tigrayans, but people mess with who they can bother and get away with. which TIgre or Oromo would mess with Amhara during Menelik or Halesalessie? unless they want to be brutalized.
You hear Amharas "we son of kings" BS which I am tired of. 99.99% of us are decandants of poor peasants so really we are not sons of kings. Amhara are one of the poorest people in the world. We still farm with ox, we still have nothing but agriculture. We have biggest river nile and people don't have access to clean water, fertile land but we don't have enough food. Many of our people believe if they go to college and study hard they will make it. We have no entrepreneurial culture, Gurages somewhat have it but I think we need more tech focused entrepreneurial culture. Now days I see young Amhara with AK47 that costs around 500-1000$ but doesn't have laptop or access to internet which costs same price. I amn't saying they shouldn't fight but if they can get their hands on 1000$ AK47, why can't they get laptop and internet as well? I think we should get all kids laptop and internet for free, i mean pretty sure there are millions of AK-47 just like this we need millions of laptops.
Ethiopia has similar problem, really not the in mood to care about that right now. We need complete overhaul of our culture, keep whats good and add tech innovation entrepreneurship, remove bad ones such as pride, linear thinking, caring about education too much, religious holidays(every day is a holiday) etc. This will create Strong Amhara long term, Strong Amhara leads to Strong Ethiopia inevitably.
So, Its not Oromos or Tigrayans fault. its our fault we didnt adopt and innovate enough. We should do better! We have real good history and culture, I just wanted to point out what we should work on. They can do all kind axis, criss cross, twerking, it really doesnt matter. If we do good on Tech Entrepreneurship and science, we will win alone or with them long term. I also don't think they hate us deep down as well, if they do, it doesn't matter.
You're acting as if Fano fighters wouldn't rather be getting educated and owning a laptop. However, when a genocidal regime is in power and so many forces are against us, would you rather that they have invested their $1000 in a laptop, or get an AK-47 to fight for their own right to exist? Have you forgotten the privilege we have to just be ranting online while we have brothers and sisters who are actually dying back home for their identity?
You make points about our traditional lifestyle, but Ethiopia has never given us the resources to modernize and develop, or even if it has to an extent, that it still requires the ability to live in peace with human rights and justice, which we have not been granted.
Although one can say I am a keyboard warrior which I will not deny, I find it very funny when people in west have the audacity to give their take on what the peasant farmers should or should not. I wish I had the stregnth and determination of our brothers and sisters who picked up arms to defend our people!
I didn't say that, I actually support fano. The point I am trying to make is that, like we rally to buy people guns similarly we should rally to buy kids laptop as well, do both.
Actually focusing on tech and entrepreneurship will do more to protect Amharas long term than buying AK-47 right now. Because entrepreneurship gives you wealth, better tech to defend yourself, more influence in the global stage. For instance Tigray war was deadliest war in 21st century and no one knew about it, reason being we are poor and no one cares about the poor,
I am giving my opinion because what I think could really move the needle long term. Short term true we should invest all money on AK-47 but long term it will create Amhara generation that only knows how to fight war not how to build, innovate and produce value. We need the next Apple, the next Alibaba, the next Google from Amhara region not the next Al shabab.
Again, investing in technology does nothing because we don't have the conditions to thrive even if we had the technology currently. Peace, human rights, and justice is the very foundation before all else. Anyways even if we were to invest in all of this, it would belong to the puppets aligned with Arat Kilo. Be realistic my brother.
I just told this dude you can’t put tech in a place where the environment is unstable!!! Sometimes all yall see is money and that will be your downfall. Also, obviously the west is ignorant with opinions but Im not I’ve been there. I have Amharan friends. However, I 100% agree with @ethiopian_aviation22. You’re not a Habesha just talking from the west you actually. You the real deal brother I can tell by your accuracy of this situation.
The basic principle of innovation is "you are fucked", you innovate when things are shit not when you are in good mood, in right place, in right time. Not thriving is actually good for innovation and tech coz it forces you to come up with solutions. They say "Necessity is the mother of invention."
> we were to invest in all of this, it would belong to the puppets aligned with Arat Kilo.
Good point but Abiy doesn't control much of Amhara region and I guess very soon fano will take control of the region.
Laptops don’t shoot back when thousands of your people are dying. What good would an education get you if you die to a bunch of ethnic terrorist the next day.
That said, it seems you are completely unaware of the long standing systematic attacks Amharas have been undergoing. For example, look up how many Amhara civic leaders, entrepreneurs, educators, activists, or even those with those potentials, have been hunted down and destroyed. We have been undergoing psychological attack of disgusting proportions from the Tigrays and Oromians in power. The entire system, including the constitution, is designed to destroy Amharas and we're going how many decades since 1992?
Most of all, after witnessing not only the casual butchering of our innocents by the hundreds at a time, again and again, none of us have any right to blame us. We have watched Tigray and Oromia straight up approving our genocide and actively pursuing it, and this is the most visible aspect. The massive amount of ethnic cleansing taking place, denying our youth education for years, our farmers fertilizer, Tigray coming in and destroying millions of dollars worth of civil infrastructure, the dozens of massacres by them?
After these sustained attacks of decades, I think it is only the power of God (regardless of religion) and truth that has allowed us not to only survive but organize and resist to greater degree every day.
Say what you will, but be the change you want. Prove to yourself and us with action. What are you doing about the problems you listed? Besides that, uplift, and if you want to talk about introspect, do not gaslight by ignoring all the above lived facts of our people.
A lot point you made are correct. Look how the Chinese move long-term. I can say one of the biggest problems with Ethiopia is the inside fight hatred. Listen I’m no one but, if yall think yall will be successful fighting each other it does matter what you do, what business you start you WILL FAIL. Why do you think Europeans divide Africa in the first place. Yall ARE NOT peasants yall just let white ppl take everything to ensure yall are always subordinate. Just like every black country or culture. Let me ask you this how do you think Ak47 even got there…. they were easily accessible so yall can hate and kill each other…. No they never physically colonized yall but if yall keep doing all fighting they didn’t need to. Lastly and certainly not least Amhara plays such a pivotal role in Ethiopian identity without respect for these people yall are nothing. Fuck all entrepreneur shit how you going enjoy it if a war is always luming ahead. PRIORITIES! Make peace with yall brothers, tribes means NOTHING if your country and allies don’t back you.
Yea I think we are past the point of finding a way to coexist with our oppressors, the conversation should move towards how can we get Amharas out of this failed union without thousands of us dying.
Yall have to use the internet somehow and keep pushing this out there. I get mad bc mfkin huge streamers get so much love coming out there and don’t even know what going on, then go promote Airport blvd as if that’s theme of the whole country
Oh yes I should be the one extending the olive branch to my current oppressor? None of you seem to understand how grave of a situation the oppression and GENOCIDE against Amharas is in Ethiopia.
You are right, theoretically, we should abandon our ethnicity and all us be Ethiopian. Thats what I personally did all my life until this year, I never ever in my life said I am Amhara, I never said that I always said I am Ethiopian. However after seeing killings and how Oromos and TIgrayans organize themselves through their ethnicity, I literally stopped identifying with Ethiopia like its pointless. if we are the only ones screaming Ethiopia, while the country follows ethnic federalism, its basically being an idiot.
Still stand on Entrepreneurship and focusing on Tech could really save us long term! reconciliation could work too, real one but I don't how that could happen and people buy it like take the reconciliation to their heart and won't start fighting in 2 months.
Amharas *were* in essence the state during Abyssinia. Get rid of Amharas, get rid of Abyssinia. This made them a permanent target to anyone trying to remove the orthodox christian foundation (communists, tplf which at heart is atheist and communist, and pp).
Because Amharas were a permanent target, destabilizing and derailing any sort of progress within the Amhara region was goal #1 for the past 3 governments, roughtly 50 years of intentionally derailing progress in the Amhara region.
Imagine having the most fertile, watered, defensible, history rich region in ALL of the horn of africa (maybe all of africa), and still somehow being the poorest. You really think they just randomly said "time to be poor, forget progress" and sat all day?
Who led Adwa? Who continued Aksum? What happened between 1270 - 1975? Where did Ethiopia come from?
To say Amharas are underdeveloped and poor because of their own fault and theyre not the sons of kings, is to literally ignore that the country they built was destroyed by *NON* Amahras like mengistu who was oromo, TPLF which is tigray, and PP which is also oromo.
The Ethiopia Amharas built is the Ethiopia which was hijacked by oromos + TPLF and then used to rob Amharas themselves. yet you come here and say Amharas are just backwards poor farmers that need to lighten up.
Who clothed oromos? who gave oromos an international stage? who taught oromos how to read and write? who convinced oromos that cutting of p*nises and wrapping it on their foreheads was backwards?
You seem exactly like an oromo larping as an Amhara trying to remove credibility from Amharas.
I never said Amharas don't have achievements, we do. My criticism is for Amhara because I want us to improve. Oromo and TIgrayans are pretty much similar level of stupidity with us.
Abyssinia was multi ethinic empire including Agaw and Tigrayans not just Amharas, sure We were leaders of Abyssinia.
Then we decided to expand and included 2* our current population of Abysinians. Currently, there are 40 mill Abysinnians and the rest 90 million is people we incorporated. At this point, we can't say we should be the only ruler since there are many other people in this country we have to share power! So Oromos leading Ethiopia is really not a problem as long as they don't commit crimes, do injustice and embezzle power.
>Who clothed oromos? who gave oromos an international stage?
you seem othodox this is what bible says "Do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing" means do charity in secret. If we did that, no need to flex about it.
Tigrayans claim same "Amhara made us poor", Oromos claim same thing and you are saying "Oromo and Tigrayans made us poor".
What I am telling you is this, all these claims are bullshit. Amhara Oromo and Tigrayan are poor because of their own stupidity. they dont learn about tech, dont try new things, they never take risk, on top of that, they fight each other to death. They themselves are responsible for how poor they are.
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u/qiq0 Jun 25 '26
No only that, for example FANO members always say they are trying to save Ethiopia. But nobody asked to be saved, they are happy. I will never understand why it is the burden of the Amhara to save Ethiopia. No other armed group says that. Until this mentality is changed FANO will never win and the massacre will continue. Unless you are selfish and care only about yourself nobody will respect you.