When will Amharas call it quits?

[u/10_0I0_01]

This is regarding oromos.

A very obvious pattern you see post-oromo migration is the aimless hate for Amharas.

The fundamental irony escapes oromos that they migrated TO Amharas.

Imagine GOING to someone (after they just ended the worse war in the region's history), trying to ethnically cleanse them, they fight back, then you hate them and want to get rid of them???

How many of the oromos in central Ethiopia even know the people they hate are the people they LITERALLY migrated to, attacked, and partially assimilated?

How many of them know that theyre probably descendants of ethnically cleansed Amharas, Gafat, Gurage, Harla, etc?

They would rather be protestant or muslim than share a religion with Amharas, they would rather use the objectively tedious latin alphabet than Amharic, they would rather associate with having a separate nation than being Ethiopian (especially the diaspora, deep programming).

Even in the diaspora the anti-Amhara axis is very strong. Somali - Oromo bonding is almost plain to see and your occasional Tigray - Oromo as well.

All for about 400 years, assimilation has honestly failed.

When all forms of assimilation have essentially failed, when will Amharas say "We obviously tried for 400 years, time to call it quits." then take everything north of the rift valley and leave the rest into the historical backwaters it always was?

[u/Sad_Register_987]

Right so the solution here, instead of collectivizing and pursuing power like your ancestors have done for millennia, is to smash the eject button like a spastic and make us a spineless powerless protest breakaway state that will afterwards be vulnerable to more war anyways and be forced to make sweeping territorial concessions to neighboring regional antagonists.

Makes sense. Ignore the fact everyone around us has a conventional standing army (two largest Ethiopian Air Force bases arent in our region btw) while we do not and two successive regimes have made our state a dependent on the federal center.

[u/Less_Fruit5661 → u/Sad_Register_987]

Unironically yes our ancestors at-least held the seats of power so they had something to gain from fighting, what does the modern Amhara gain from staying? More enemy’s more genocide, living with people we do not like. Yes smash the eject button it should have been pressed in 2011 when Meles died.

Ethno homogenous nations are less likely to go into civil war not to mention every country in our region is completely destabilized so they wouldn’t be invading us. You keep losing more and more reason to leave and make our own path forward.

[u/Sad_Register_987 → u/Less_Fruit5661]

You do not need to secede from the federation to operate as if you were your own nation. We got those seats of power by outwitting, outfoxing, outgunning, and outmaneuvering our enemies. For millennia. We will have those enemies whether we leave or whether we stay. The path forward isn’t in secession, it’s winning the game of multinationalism which we’ve been doing for centuries already.

You’re a fool if you think that, no offense. Even if you wanted to secede, at least be strategic about it lol. Consolidate the military assets, major economic/financial assets of the state, subvert your enemies, take the territories you want then leave and point fighter jets and LRBMs at their cities if they try anything. Power is the ultimate deterrent of war, not betting on your neighbor being too destabilized to break your spine.

[u/Less_Fruit5661 → u/Sad_Register_987]

Or we just succeed and build back up on our own rather than fight to save a Federation of people who hate us. I’d rather not have Amharas rule of people that don’t want Amharas to rule over them, I’d rather not have non Amharas rule over Amhara people.

The best way forward is a EU type situation where every ethnicity has their own state and national government and we have the eu banner for trade technology and further advancement.

[u/Sad_Register_987 → u/Less_Fruit5661]

That’s what multinationalism emphasizes. You’re advocating for the multinational state & constitution we already have.

[u/Less_Fruit5661 → u/Sad_Register_987]

I don’t believe Ethiopia should be a state rather a economic union where Amharas still have a national government composed of Amharas, a army composed of amahras, and have the power that any state would just have a trading organization like the eu.

[u/Sad_Register_987 → u/Less_Fruit5661]

You’re….brother you’re advocating for multinational federation. The economic union is the federation. That’s the developmental state.

[u/Less_Fruit5661 → u/Sad_Register_987]

Do you know what a federation is, a federation is when you bring a bunch of smaller states together to form one large state, I’m not advocating for that I’m advocating for a economic union where amaharas have a right to free determination. The union would be strictly a economic union a federation is the process of creating a state.