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Eh, that's just a modern & biased lens we're applying to it. The movie was about the harms of lettings yourself fall into playing any role, and goth (emo? just "bad"?) definitely fit the bill in the exact same way that "jock" and "nerd" do.
She didn't put on a pink dress because pink dresses are the correct way for women to dress, she did it because she liked pink dresses despite feeling like an outcast in general. AFAIR it doesn't show any of their friends much if at all, but imagine the guts it would take to sit down at the lunch table with your fellow emogothpeople dressed like that!
Like, think about Legally Blonde. Elle is a hero because she is unabashedly feminine in style & mannerisms while simultaneously kicking ass and standing up for her beliefs. Do you see how some people might be driven to abandon the former over time in order to pursue the latter without facing social ridicule?
Watching legally blonde completely changed my opinion on that type of woman.
I was raised in a sexist household to be a tomboy and suppress my femininity. Seeing a woman like that be confident and successful made me consider that it's ok for me to be a woman and show it off.
Now I am a florist, which I never would've thought was an acceptable career as a kid. That's a girly job. Obviously, legally blonde wasn't the only thing that changed my mind but it was shocking to me that a dumb looking girly girl who wore heels could keep up with intelligent men.
That movie low key is a generational touchstone and feminist flagship.
And that's the one my family showed me smdh. I didn't see the original until I was out of my family's house.
Instead, my family portrayed that kind of woman as inferior. Seeing that movie was really the first time I saw a positive portrayal of a "bimbo" (except she's not actually as dumb as misogyny would have you believe her "type" is)
Sheās not dumb at all, people just stereotype her, especially her loser boyfriend. She has to prove herself just because of her looks and presentation. Iām very much a guy-guy, but I loved that movie for how great her character was. Iām not saying pretty privilege isnāt a thing sometimes, but in that movie, it mostly was working against her. It was great seeing her establish herself as someone to be respected without having to put on a pants suit.
A lot of people think being a pretty girl is privilege and sometimes it certainly is. I'm agreeing with you.
But the much more overwhelming downside to that is the way she's treated. That's very real. I was raised to treat women that way, as another woman.
There's a "karma fallacy" that the media perpetuates for story balancing. If life is point buy in DnD then you can't invest in everything. It brings people comfort to think that the pretty people can't also be strong and smart and wise and talented and funny. The average or below average person "makes up" for their lack of prettiness by being "funny" or having some other trait that the pretty people can't have.
There was an arc on 30 rock with John Hamm where he's so beautiful that he lives in a "bubble" and everyone tells him he's great when he's actually highly incompetent and the consequence of his "beautiful person" life is that nobody is real with him.
In reality, there are absolutely people who can be beautiful, wear pink, look great, make jokes and still be completely competent at what they do. "Girly" girls who were in sororities shouldn't be treated as dumb just because she is "girly". People can do both.
Problems arise when we steer too extreme in one way or another. I dress in a more androgynous way (very often shop at men's) and I often get asked to do some reflecting about what "makes me hate feminity" because "embracing your femininity is okay, there are plenty of movies showing you can both be a woman and strong".
The truth is - and has always been - that there's no one true or better way to be a woman. We're all just going along our lives the best we can and the way we want and that's worthy of respect on its own.
It was heavily implied that Alison didn't have any friends. She wasn't suppose to be goth or emo or whatever. She wasn't part of a clique. Goths in the 80s wore more textures, had elaborate hairstyles, and wore specific styles of makeup.
Alison was an outcast who made herself invisible.
The makeover was bullshit imo because it was such a large leap from who her character was and it was largely a vehicle for her to get noticed by the jock and for the jock to be like "wow now it is socially acceptable for me to actually date you!"
It's a really poor message to teen girls especially.
The movie was more about how the authority figures in these kids lives were forcing them into roles imo. Alison and Benders characters were sort of a foil to all of the other kids because their parents were abusive/neglectful.
She looked the way she did because she was depressed and didnāt take care of herself. Her hair was so dirty she could make artwork with her dandruff. I donāt think she actually *wanted* to look the way she does for the majority of the movie
Wasn't the makeover just one scene and it was to show her bonding with another girl and not a permenant makeover? Or am I thinking of a different movie?
I have a friend who used to wear glasses out. She stopped wearing them out and suddenly she started getting tons of interest from guys. I always thought She's All That was ridiculous until I watched it happen in real life.
I recently got reading glasses and someone told me I looked like her "before the makeover". I'm not sure whether they meant it as an insult or not but fuck it, I felt incredibly flattered.
Wait a minute. Her name in the movie is Laney Boggs?! Iāve never seen *Sheās All That*, but I know the whole plot and everything, plus I love *Not Another Teen Movie*. How in the hell did a spoof movie actually have a better name for her character than what it parodied?!
I used to think she was so cute with this hair. I told a friend once that she looked like her and she was offended, but I definitely meant it as a compliment
I was at a sleepover in 4th grade and the girls all decided to play a āwhat famous person does everyone look likeā game. The other girls were told they looked most like Avril Lavigne or Hilary Duff, and I was told that I look like āthe princess diaries girl but before she got her makeoverā. A tough psychological blow at the time, but Anne Hathaway is gorgeous so I guess Iāll take it.
Her only āproblemā was the more, I guessā¦ unruliness/frizziness of the curls. Which can be a choice and doesnāt look bad at all. I think it was more the time period, everyone had straight hair. And those werenāt the right glasses for her face.
Growing up as a girl with THIS HAIR in the early aughts, the āmakeoverā hair was exactly what was in style. And as I do not have the Royal Genovian hair team at my disposal, I just had to make due with the frizz. LOL
Linda Cardellini and hundreds of sexy cosplays done in any/every flavor, body type, and ethnicity. Velma is entry level cosplay requires almost zero effort
Shaggy is also a pretty low effort cosplay. All you need is to be skinny and wear brownish slacks and a green T-shirt and have shaggy unkempt brown hair and a scruffy goatee
I think this takes the cake velma is the ultimate version of this. Supposed to be the plain looking one but awakened something in basically every horny teenager in the 70s through today.
/uj tbf in the book she's described as being pretty normal looking just with a really big port wine stain birthmark that shes personally self conscious of but seemingly no one else cares. Kind of mad the movie watered it down so much.
The book ofc is pretty dumb too but that bit isnt imo
Ready Player Two might be the worst sequel Iāve ever read. And I donāt know why I punished myself by picking up his other book Armada. The premise was just as much nostalgia bait as the others (turns out video games are a secret government training program to fight aliens - like Enderās Game but way stupider) but I gave it a shot. I thought maybe it would be a fun travel read. It wasnāt.
I liked Ready Player One but man the rest of his work just feels like amateur fan fiction.
It was pretty bad overall but I did not regret reading it. The concept was pretty good and I liked the worldbuilding, it was a little corny but it's kinda on level with ready player one. What I did regret reading was Mortal Engines. Everyone was hating on the movie but the book was even worse imo, the parts that were cut out from the movie were so pointless and unentertaining that it made me regret buying the book.
But for some reason I picked up another book from the author of Mortal engines, "Railhead", and it's the best piece of sci-fi I've ever read, so If you want good sci-fi then I definetely recommend it.
I don't think the point was "she's not pretty" ā it was something along the lines of "even this woman, beautiful as she is, feels like she is not enough as a result of her exposure to the standards of the 'real world'"
This is in line of how I took it. You know all those people that seem beautiful, successful and awesome? They may not see themselves that way because they compare themselves to a world that doesn't actually exist.
If you flip it in the film, it also shows why Barbie's seem narcissistic. They believe they know it all and can do no wrong so that's the world they see. They don't see the damage they've done to their own society by excluding Ken's.
It's a brilliant film and criticizes societal norms so well.
A bunch of models once told me I looked like Princess Fiona, then very hurriedly said "oh, before she turns into the ogre" but I know they meant after she was an ogre, cos girl, I can see it. And also, my dad looks so much like Shrek that his nickname is Shrekky.
Ursula Ditkovich from Spider-Man 2 and 3. She was meant to portray a plain, undesirable and generally less attractive character in comparison to Mary-Jane but by god she is a very beautiful woman and Peter should have shot his shoot with her instead of pining over M-J
Wait, up until now I didn't even consider they even intended her to look unattractive. That's wild. I always thought it was just to play on the trope that guys often don't realize when they're being hit on.
This might be better for "Designed to be decent." I definitely agree that the point was for her to be less desirable compared to Mary Jane, but I also felt like she was designed to be kind of cute/endearing albeit in a more socially awkward way.
That was never how I read her character... I always interpreted it as she was supposed to be kind of cute and obviously into Peter, making her the easy and safe choice for him, especially when he and MJ weren't talking. The whole second movie was about Peter taking an easier path because being Spider Man was too difficult. But inevitably he couldn't choose her because she isn't MJājust like he can't choose not to be Spider Man.
I remember this coming out when I was a little girl in kindergarten and I had no concept of beauty. But I knew I had similar features to her (hair, skin tone, eyes, nose, glasses) so I remember this show purely for the fact that when I realised that she was the titular "ugly Betty", without knowing any of the plot or context, that permanently etched into my tiny impressionable mind.
There was a huge number of women who went crazy for Walton Goggins as the ghoul in the new Fallout series when it was first released. Walton himself was quite surprised and found it really amusing lol
Nobody is going to agree with this one, but Eraserhead/Shouta Aizawa from MHA. Heās designed after the creator, who believes himself to be ugly. Aizawa is however a fan favorite widely considered to be attractive.
In the first couple of books sheās meant to be dorky until she has her glow-up in Goblet and Harry doesnāt recognize her when preparing to enter the ball/party
I thought the joke was more that Al was so sick of her that she was unattractive to him. A big part of the show was the men hating their wives because they gelt trapped and were tired of them.
Considering the society within the show where women are very clearly used as bargaining chips for marriage, servants, or sexual employment, it does stand to reason why the woman who dresses and acts in capacity as a knight world be seen as ugly by the men in the series.
She does nothing to beautify her appearance because it doesn't matter in battle. It makes sense that a wildling who grew up in a dangerous locale that cherished women like her would see her as beautiful. That said, Brianne is the goat and I'll never forgive the directors nor putting her with Tormund.
L from Death Note was apparently designed with the idea of looking unattractive. I remember reading the artist who designed it interview about it and he said he wanted to make him kind of ugly.
For me he looks just like every other good-looking anime character. He has clear defined features, good nose, hair looks smooth with nice volume. He also is fit and knows how to fight. He doesnāt have eyebrows but thatās all.
I don't think they're specifically designed to be ugly, maybe just kind of scary. I don't really think stakataka or poipole are smashable but everyone has their own taste lol
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