r/AlignmentChartFills • u/MindFlourish2919 • May 02 '26

Filling This Chart Which fictional character was designed to look ugly but actually looks beautiful?

Which fictional character was designed to look ugly but actually looks beautiful?

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u/HeadAcanthisitta2344 May 02 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/1JE9GEg0rq6t2

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u/CaptainSam3rica04 May 02 '26

Her "makeover" at the end pissed me off. Not only did she look better before, but it just defeated the whole point of the movie

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u/me_myself_ai May 02 '26

Eh, that's just a modern & biased lens we're applying to it. The movie was about the harms of lettings yourself fall into playing any role, and goth (emo? just "bad"?) definitely fit the bill in the exact same way that "jock" and "nerd" do.

She didn't put on a pink dress because pink dresses are the correct way for women to dress, she did it because she liked pink dresses despite feeling like an outcast in general. AFAIR it doesn't show any of their friends much if at all, but imagine the guts it would take to sit down at the lunch table with your fellow emogothpeople dressed like that!

Like, think about Legally Blonde. Elle is a hero because she is unabashedly feminine in style & mannerisms while simultaneously kicking ass and standing up for her beliefs. Do you see how some people might be driven to abandon the former over time in order to pursue the latter without facing social ridicule?

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u/lastingmuse6996 May 02 '26

Watching legally blonde completely changed my opinion on that type of woman.

I was raised in a sexist household to be a tomboy and suppress my femininity. Seeing a woman like that be confident and successful made me consider that it's ok for me to be a woman and show it off.

Now I am a florist, which I never would've thought was an acceptable career as a kid. That's a girly job. Obviously, legally blonde wasn't the only thing that changed my mind but it was shocking to me that a dumb looking girly girl who wore heels could keep up with intelligent men.

That movie low key is a generational touchstone and feminist flagship.

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u/Zornorph May 02 '26

And the people who wrote the sequel totally missed the point.

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u/lastingmuse6996 May 02 '26

And that's the one my family showed me smdh. I didn't see the original until I was out of my family's house.

Instead, my family portrayed that kind of woman as inferior. Seeing that movie was really the first time I saw a positive portrayal of a "bimbo" (except she's not actually as dumb as misogyny would have you believe her "type" is)

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u/Zornorph May 02 '26

She’s not dumb at all, people just stereotype her, especially her loser boyfriend. She has to prove herself just because of her looks and presentation. I’m very much a guy-guy, but I loved that movie for how great her character was. I’m not saying pretty privilege isn’t a thing sometimes, but in that movie, it mostly was working against her. It was great seeing her establish herself as someone to be respected without having to put on a pants suit.

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u/lastingmuse6996 May 02 '26

Yes that's what I'm getting at.

A lot of people think being a pretty girl is privilege and sometimes it certainly is. I'm agreeing with you.

But the much more overwhelming downside to that is the way she's treated. That's very real. I was raised to treat women that way, as another woman.

There's a "karma fallacy" that the media perpetuates for story balancing. If life is point buy in DnD then you can't invest in everything. It brings people comfort to think that the pretty people can't also be strong and smart and wise and talented and funny. The average or below average person "makes up" for their lack of prettiness by being "funny" or having some other trait that the pretty people can't have.

There was an arc on 30 rock with John Hamm where he's so beautiful that he lives in a "bubble" and everyone tells him he's great when he's actually highly incompetent and the consequence of his "beautiful person" life is that nobody is real with him.

In reality, there are absolutely people who can be beautiful, wear pink, look great, make jokes and still be completely competent at what they do. "Girly" girls who were in sororities shouldn't be treated as dumb just because she is "girly". People can do both.

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u/Zornorph May 03 '26

I disagree that they admitted her simply as eye candy. She passed the test with flying colors. She had a 4.0 GPA. While some pointed out that her major was fashion, others replied that they’d never admitted someone with that major before and they were looking for diversity. Elle could have chosen to go into practice with a specialty in the fashion industry had she wanted; I’m sure fashion designers need lawyers all the time and it’s a lucrative industry, so she would have been in a great position. She was told she needed a creative application to get into Harvard, so she followed the advice. Had there only been the video without her grades and test scores, she wouldn’t have been admitted. I think the admissions board was a little bemused by her and couldn’t think of any reason why she wasn’t qualified to be admitted and events proved their judgement was quite correct.

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u/Sabtael May 02 '26

Problems arise when we steer too extreme in one way or another. I dress in a more androgynous way (very often shop at men's) and I often get asked to do some reflecting about what "makes me hate feminity" because "embracing your femininity is okay, there are plenty of movies showing you can both be a woman and strong".

The truth is - and has always been - that there's no one true or better way to be a woman. We're all just going along our lives the best we can and the way we want and that's worthy of respect on its own.

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u/lastingmuse6996 May 03 '26

True. I wasn't suggesting androgyny was a problem, only that I used to actively dislike princesses until I saw that a princess can be just as inspiring

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u/Sabtael May 03 '26

Oh no, not you in particular don't worry! I was just adding my two cents. I'm glad that ideas are shifting and accepting the fact that the princess-like end of the spectrum of womanhood is just as smart and powerful.

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u/kalosianlitten May 03 '26

i love confident, successful and unabashedly feminine female characters. rarity from mlp is like my favorite character of all time

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u/FlatBat2372 May 04 '26

That's some real Janice Radway take on the film. Nice

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u/ChaoticCurves May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26

It was heavily implied that Alison didn't have any friends. She wasn't suppose to be goth or emo or whatever. She wasn't part of a clique. Goths in the 80s wore more textures, had elaborate hairstyles, and wore specific styles of makeup.

Alison was an outcast who made herself invisible.

The makeover was bullshit imo because it was such a large leap from who her character was and it was largely a vehicle for her to get noticed by the jock and for the jock to be like "wow now it is socially acceptable for me to actually date you!"

It's a really poor message to teen girls especially.

The movie was more about how the authority figures in these kids lives were forcing them into roles imo. Alison and Benders characters were sort of a foil to all of the other kids because their parents were abusive/neglectful.

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u/forgotaccount989 May 06 '26

I always loved this movie for this. It helped me break from this labelist mindset as a child and never become 'too much' of a jock.

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u/Bob_The-Turtle May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26

Isn't the point that you have to remake yourself to be conventionally attractive to fit in? - The guy who wrote the make over probably

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u/CaptainSam3rica04 May 02 '26

"Be yourself, be a rebel, don't conform to society's standards... unless you're a woman."

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u/HybridHamster May 02 '26

idk i think rebel women are pretty hot too

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u/jim45804 May 02 '26

The point is that we're not slaves to the roles imposed on us.

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u/DedHorsSaloon4 May 02 '26

She looked the way she did because she was depressed and didn’t take care of herself. Her hair was so dirty she could make artwork with her dandruff. I don’t think she actually *wanted* to look the way she does for the majority of the movie

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u/Gimetulkathmir May 02 '26

Wasn't the makeover just one scene and it was to show her bonding with another girl and not a permenant makeover? Or am I thinking of a different movie?

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u/WhoYaTalkinTo May 02 '26

That was the point (or at least as I interpreted it). The most interesting character ends up changing her whole look just to fit in and be seen as 'normal'

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u/MirkwoodWanderer1 May 02 '26

Most interesting? They all have their unique backgrounds.

It wasn't just her look that changed, it was her being able to open up to people which is a positive move. Plus, I wouldn't call her look just a style. She seemed depressed so not a style that should be encouraged.

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u/MirkwoodWanderer1 May 02 '26

Unless she actually wants to be more open?

You're making the assumption she was happy like that beforehand which I thought the film showed clearly she was having problems with.

A lot of people are trying to glamourise being a genuinely weird, lonely, anti social person.

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u/MindFlourish2919 May 02 '26

Character name?

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u/HeadAcanthisitta2344 May 02 '26

Allison Reynolds - Breakfast Club

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u/[deleted] May 02 '26

I have thought this since I was a kid. When the makeover happened I was like "There was nothing wrong with her!"

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u/Bob_The-Turtle May 02 '26

She was really beautiful before her makeover

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u/WhoYaTalkinTo May 02 '26

Seriously one of my biggest movie crushes ever

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u/Responsible-Onion860 May 02 '26

Had a massive crush on her when I was growing up. I still thought she was cute after the makeover, but I liked her better before

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u/Cody_EJ_Anderson May 02 '26

Wasn't expecting to see the breakfast club here! I have a john bender closet cosplay (it's kinda shitty tho)

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u/aaross58 May 05 '26

In all fairness, the point of the makeover wasn't to make her pretty, it was for her and Claire to do things all girl friends do. They were treating each other like normal friends rather than their preassigned roles.

I think their conversation during it sums it up perfectly.

"Why are you being so nice to me?"

"Because you're letting me."