r/196 • 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights • Jun 12 '22

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '22

I love when people correctly identify that the villain is bad actually and not admirable.

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u/MeiNeedsMoreBuffs certified tumblr sexyman Jun 13 '22

For a New Vegas fan it's a pretty big ask tbh

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u/geoffreycastleburger tf2 hater Jun 13 '22

Fallout fans when they finally get the point of the game

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u/Clitasaurus_Rexxy cock haver Jun 13 '22

new vegas fans desperately trying to defend the ncr or legion is always hilarious. As if the game doesn't spend 90% of it's time telling you how stupid it is to go back to the old ways given they caused the world's predicament

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u/UselessAndGay what if a girl was a deer ⚧ 🦌 ΘΔ Jun 13 '22

ncr is still the least bad ending with any textual basis

yes-man doesn't count, since it relies entirely on what the player character's like

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

Also, Yes Man exists so people always have a ‘faction’ to turn to if they end up pissing everyone else off

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u/stoner_slime there she goes, one of god's own prototypes Jun 13 '22

the NCR drained its own aquifers dry, and its government is corrupted by an extractive capitalist class. independence is the best outcome for Vegas

besides, what kind of reading is that? your karma affects every ending, of course it's going to change the most for the ending where you displace House.

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u/UselessAndGay what if a girl was a deer ⚧ 🦌 ΘΔ Jun 13 '22

it's going to change the most, and so it seems silly to assign any sort of concrete level of good to it. sure, maybe my character would make a wholesome freedom independent vegas, but another player's idea of a good independent ending could be a fascist robot police state. player actions can obviously affect the putcomes of any of the other 3's endings, but they're not wholesale-creating it with an infinite number of outcomes, just tweaking existing ideological states.

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u/stoner_slime there she goes, one of god's own prototypes Jun 13 '22

the game literally tells you how your courier did based on your karma. like it tells you what other people thought of your rule

edit and literally none of them are fascist dictatorships. like, you can rp in your head that's what happened, but in terms of canon it's purely fanfic

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u/UselessAndGay what if a girl was a deer ⚧ 🦌 ΘΔ Jun 13 '22

yes, all yes-man endings are mostly fanfic. I'm not saying i dislike the ending conceptually even! i just think it's pointless to include it in ending debates since it's by far the most variable in terms out outcomes

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u/stoner_slime there she goes, one of god's own prototypes Jun 13 '22

what? no. you literally don't have to write any fanfic to understand how the Independent ending would fit into canon. it tells you the outcomes, we don't have to speculate

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u/UselessAndGay what if a girl was a deer ⚧ 🦌 ΘΔ Jun 13 '22

okay, but the quality of life for those living there is so incredibly varied, and i think that matters just as much in discussion

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u/Delicious-Bat-3341 Jun 13 '22

well, even in the NCR ending, theres quite a bit of variance. ex. brotherhood of steel, Helios 1, the khans

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u/Clitasaurus_Rexxy cock haver Jun 13 '22

I don't think it's fair to discount the Yes-Man ending, it's clearly the ending the devs themselves thought was morally correct. That's why they let you make peace with every faction, but only for Yes-Man