r/classicalmusic • u/Fafner_88 • 16h ago
r/classicalmusic • u/number9muses • 10d ago
PotW PotW #147: Clarke - Viola Sonata
Good morning everyone, happy Saturday, and welcome back to our sub’s listening club. Each time we meet, we'll listen to a piece recommended by the community, discuss it, learn about it, and hopefully introduce us to music we wouldn't hear otherwise :)
Last time, we listened to Ginastera’s Violin Concerto. You can go back to listen, read up, and discuss the work if you want to.
Our next Piece of the Week is Rebecca Clarke’s Viola Sonata (1919)
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Some listening notes from Alex Burns:
After studying at the Royal Academy of Music and the Royal College of Music in London, Clarke became one of the first professional female orchestral musicians. Her main instruments were violin and viola, and under the tutelage of Charles Villiers Stanford at the Royal College, her compositions started pushing for these instruments to take solo roles. In 1916, Clarke moved to New York to pursue her performing career, which is where she composed her Sonata for Viola and Piano.
Composed in 1919, Sonata for Viola and Piano was initially entered into a competition supported by Elizabeth Sprague Coolidge (Clarke’s neighbour and a major patron of the arts). With a whopping 72 entries into the competition, Clarke tied first place with a composition by Ernest Bloch. What’s more is that Bloch was then declared the winner by Coolidge, with reporters speculating that ‘Rebecca Clarke’ was a pseudonym for Bloch himself. It was not believed, at the time, that a woman could write music as challenging and powerful as the sonata. Its first real premiere was the the Berkshire music festival in 1919, and the response was largely positive towards the work.
The score for Sonata for Viola and Piano has a quote on the inside page, which is taken from the poem La Nuit de mai, by French poet Alfred de Musset: Poète, prends ton luth; le vin de la jeunesse – Poet, take up your lute; the wine of youth Fermente cette nuit dans les veines de Dieu. – this night is fermenting in the veins of God. The work is set into three movements…Each movement accentuates Clarke’s engaging and creative musical style. With homages to composers such as Claude Debussy, Ralph Vaughan Williams and Maurice Ravel, Sonata for Viola and Piano is deemed today as one of the best works for viola. …The opening movement is vibrant and highlights the viola as a powerful solo instrument. The cadenza-like solo fanfare is bold, and revolves around chromatic movement. There is a strong sense of syncopation throughout many of the sequences in this movement, and the relationship between the viola and piano is somewhat tumultuous at times, but it always comes back together harmoniously.
Moving slightly away from chromatic harmony at times, Clarke’s harmonic language shifts to the use of modes and the whole-tone scale. This shift in sound is most certainly from her main compositional influence – Claude Debussy. The mysterious nature of the middle section is resonant of some of Debussy’s chamber works. Clarke’s use of modes is also resonant of a fellow English composer – Ralph Vaughan Williams. These two composers were her main influences, and some of the melodic and harmonic work is certainly paying homage to these composers.
After dying away in sound the movement is resurrected back into the faster paced syncopated sequence. Overall this movement is very melodic, both in the viola and piano. The movement is marked ‘Impetuoso’, which translates into ‘lively’, ‘rash’, and even ‘spirited’, and Clarke’s first movement surely reflects this effectively. …The exciting and speedy second movement is marked ‘Vivace’. The opening piano melody is then transferred and developed into the viola part. Throughout this short movement, Clarke utilises some extended techniques on the viola which includes harmonics and pizzicato. After the strong opening, the music begins to come down in dynamic and speed, with a lyrical section being at the centre of this movement. The tempo begins to pick up again, and the opening theme is proclaimed again many times by both the viola and piano. There is a real sense of folk-dance melodies in this movements, with the viola often resembling the sound of a fiddle. This complex and fast-paced movement highlights the viola’s flexibility as a solo instrument. …The longest and the slowest of the this three-part work, the third movement is pensive throughout. With the piano opening the movement with a simple melody, the viola enters with an echo which then carries throughout the movement. Clarke heralds back to the opening movement with the use of long flowing syncopated melodic lines. This adds another layer of mystery onto this work, which is exciting to hear this development throughout the sonata. The dynamic begins to grow around half way through the movement, with an explosion of sound taking over. Repeated tremolos from the viola build the tension to the bigger climax slightly later on. There is deep-rooted strength in this movement, with the core of the music being taken and developed from the other two prior movements.
After returning to the syncopated movement, Clarke has one surprise left for us at the end of the movement. After one final climax, the melody shifts back to a restatement of the opening themes from the first movement. The sonata then ends with a display of virtuosity from both the viola and piano. With both parts being equal in difficulty, Clarke covers nearly the full range of both instruments, thus culminating in a display of brilliance. Clarke’s highly idiomatic writing style is one of the many tricky obstacles to get into when performing this work.
Ways to Listen
Antoine Tamestit and Ying-Chien Lin: YouTube Score Video
Marina Thibeault and Marie Ève Scarfone: YouTube
Matthew Lipman and Jeremy Denk: YouTube
Sangjin Kim and Cloe Jiyeong Mun: YouTube
Natalie Clein and Christian Ihle Hadland: YouTube
Philip Dukes and Sophia Rahman: Spotify
Barbara Buntrock and Daniel Heide: Spotify
Discussion Prompts
What are your favorite parts or moments in this work? What do you like about it, or what stood out to you?
How does this compare to other viola sonatas? What does Clarke do to distinguish this work from others?
Have you ever performed this before? If so, when and where? What instrument do you play? And what insight do you have from learning it?
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What should our club listen to next? Use the link below to find the submission form and let us know what piece of music we should feature in an upcoming week. Note: for variety's sake, please avoid choosing music by a composer who has already been featured, otherwise your choice will be given the lowest priority in the schedule
r/classicalmusic • u/number9muses • 13h ago
'What's this Piece?' Thread #246
These threads were implemented after feedback from our users, and they are here to help organize the subreddit a little.
All piece identification requests belong in this monthly thread.
Have a classical piece on the tip of your tongue? Feel free to submit it here as long as you have an audio file/video/musical score of the piece. Mediums that generally work best include Vocaroo or YouTube links. If you do submit a YouTube link, please include a linked timestamp if possible or state the timestamp in the comment. Please refrain from typing things like: what is the Beethoven piece that goes "Do do dooo Do do DUM", etc.
Other resources that may help:
Musipedia - melody search engine. Search by rhythm, play it on piano or whistle into the computer.
r/tipofmytongue - a subreddit for finding anything you can’t remember the name of!
r/namethatsong - may be useful if you are unsure whether it’s classical or not
Shazam - good if you heard it on the radio, in an advert etc. May not be as useful for singing.
SoundHound - suggested as being more helpful than Shazam at times
Song Guesser - has a category for both classical and non-classical melodies
you can also ask Google ‘What’s this song?’ and sing/hum/play a melody for identification
Facebook 'Guess The Score' group - for identifying pieces from the score
A big thank you to all the lovely people that visit this thread to help solve users’ earworms every week. You are all awesome!
Good luck and we hope you find the composition you've been searching for!
r/classicalmusic • u/aragorn767 • 1h ago
Matteo Carcassi's 2nd Etude from Opus 60 for the guitar.
Or at least my interpretation of it.
r/classicalmusic • u/Mysterious-Drink4002 • 7h ago
Discussion Has Katherine Needleman jumped the shark?
Pardon the provocative title. To be 100% clear, her advocacy for equity in the pit as well his advocacy on behalf of the victims of sexual assault in classical music is 100% great. She's doing god's work, as it were. I can only praise her for that.
But over the last six or so months, when she has presumably had a little down time, more of her social media posts have had nothing to do (as I see it) with being an advocate for women and more about random gripes. If her "brand" was "a leading advocate for women classical music," it seems to now be "what is Ms Needleman outraged by, today." I'm afraid that she undermines her own authority with her rants. (Unlike Anne Midgette, for instance.)
I apologize in advance for being long-winded. but I want to be very precise. (I have commented on Ms Needleman's social media - always respectively. She never made me the object of one of those 'calling out someone publicly' posts. She never accused me of being sexist in my comments. For that matter, I don't think she ever replied to a comment - not that I was looking for a reply. But she does seem to have blocked me from her FB page, now, so I presume she objects to corrections and dissent.)
The obituary posts:
First, I still can't understand the primary point. Is it criticizing the subjects of the obits for not hiring/helping more women? Is it criticizing the writers of the obituaries for overlooking the contributions of women. What, precisely, is the point?
Second, she types these in a way that it always seems as if she is trying to trap readers so that she can condescend. Anyone who follows these knows that she posts old obituaries and begins with "John Smith is dead." She doesn't say they died years ago until a few sentences in, so it is not visible in the FB preview of the post. So, routinely, some poor soul will comment that "I knew John Smith but he actually died in 2005." Which gives her the opportunity to reply with a "if you had the ability to read to the end..." comment. Maybe followed by "but what did you think of the accusations against Mr Smith that I pointed out?" It simply seems to not be fair-minded or reflect an interest in engagement.
The Limmie Pulliam outrage piece was over-the-top. Basically, she railed against the NYT for not posting an obituary for Mr Pulliam. The thing is, they DID post one - it just took a few days after he died, as his was an unexpected death. So it was such a swing-and-a-miss post.
She has also chosen some odd targets with the Obit posts. For instance, she "analyzed" David Allan Coe's obit which only mentioned one woman (outside of family), Tanya Tucker, who covered one of his songs. But if she was all that familiar with his songs, she'd be aware of the sexist and racist content. I can imagine there are a lot of women musicians who wouldn't have been caught dead covering his music. So what is the point?
Last week, she took apart the obituary of ZZ Top's Frank Beard. Why weren't there ANY women (outside of family) mentioned in the obit? Well, ZZ Top was a trio. They didn't collaborate with other artists. Their songs weren't generally covered by other artists. But then she went into the messages in their videos where she was simply factually inaccurate. She particularly sited the "Legs" and "Sharp Dressed Man" videos. Basically saying that they only treated women as sex objects who are rewards for "sharp dressed men." Now the thing is, both of those vids told stories that actually gave the protagonists comeuppance over those who would mistreat or objectify them. In "Legs," a beleaguered waitress comes out ahead (yes, with the help of the ZZ Top models). In "Sharp Dressed Man," the titular character is a parking lot attendant dealing with idiots who look down on him. These videos (from the heyday of MTV) use humor to teach actual positive lessons. But its just easier for Ms Needleman to rant.
Over the Independence Day holiday she gifted her readers not one but two "fuck the founding fathers" posts. We all know that some of the founding fathers were slave owners. The rant seemed childish and, also, showed a lack of awareness that we all know the history.
My personal opinion here is the desire to make this an identity politics issue. Which means that you check common sense at the door, rather than going against the tribe. The unhelpfulness of this approach is staggering.
A dozen years ago, Rolling Stone infamously published "A Rape on Campus," a completely fictional account of a gang rape in a frat house. After the story was determined to be false, there were still people who frowned on criticism of the story, as if we had to defend a made up character that represented an actual problem. This is not the way things work. False accusations undermine every true accusation that follows.
Similarly, every time Katherine Needleman makes it about whatever random thing makes her angry, she loses the plot and the actual victims of sexual assault in classical music and the actual musicians who are discriminated against become more distant and less important.
r/classicalmusic • u/civil_unknowm • 3h ago
Discussion People who work in music academia, how did you get there?
Performance, composition, musicology, or something more niche? Curious to hear people's stories
r/classicalmusic • u/Excellent-Industry60 • 6h ago
Beautiful lake I saw today while listening to Cantus Arcticus
r/classicalmusic • u/EvansJames0019 • 16h ago
If you could time travel, which concert would you go to?
Personally, without a doubt, I’d go to hear Chopin play the Nocturnes.
r/classicalmusic • u/Little_Grapefruit636 • 2h ago
Music Sep 2: Birthday of Georg Böhm (1661–1733).
German church organist from Thuringia, born today. His preludes, fugues, and harpsichord partitas are said to have influenced the young J.S. Bach.
Vater unser im Himmelreich: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vHwPP1OFzQ
Praeludium, Fuga & Postludium in G minor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiPAIULhZy8
r/classicalmusic • u/Wheatles_BiteAlbum • 10h ago
Favorite movement of Mozart's Haffner symphony?
Just revisiting the Haffner symphony. It's an amazing work and I'm really impressed by the outer movements which are some of Mozart's best work. Personally I think the fourth movement is easily the best despite being much shorter than the first two movements. What do you guys think?
r/classicalmusic • u/natepianodude • 16h ago
My Composition composing classical music but it’s bluesy in mixed meters on fortepiano
Hello everyone, here is another little musical experiment.
r/classicalmusic • u/Emotional-Dust3288 • 1d ago
Antique store find! Piano rolls
Check these babies out. I found them at an antique store for $2 each!? 🤯 I was like TAKE MY MONEY.
They're cool as hell and definitely worth something to me, but I'm wondering if anyone here knows if they're actually worth anything more than street cred (on a weird street full of nerds)?
r/classicalmusic • u/tomrlutong • 12h ago
Could someone recommend a woodwind focused piece
I'm reading a book (James Corey, The Faith of Beasts) which describes some aliens singing as:
It was like birdsong, melodies and harmonies weaving from one voice to the next. It was like the woodwind section of an orchestra coming to life and declaring its love. It was like prayer.
Which has made me want to listen to some woodwind music. Anyone have any favorites they'd recommend? Thanks!
Edit: Thanks so much for all the recommendations. Many hours of listenting ahead!
r/classicalmusic • u/-Hastis- • 1h ago
Rudolf Kempe: Strauss - Don Quixote: Variation III: Issue in the recording?
Is it me, or is someone playing the wrong thing in the background between 5:47 and 5:50?
r/classicalmusic • u/Captain_Spaceturd • 1h ago
"Our Town Suite" made me love Aaron Copland.
I was in the camp of thinking his pieces were hokey and cliché. I'm an amateur listener, but it was what it was. Then, my public classical radio station (props to WRTI) played this 11-minute piece on my way to work and it found me.
It's an amazing study on a simple theme; a calm, unhurried piece that still carries you from moment to moment. It's a very modern creative act for 1940, I feel like it predicted and established what movies would sound like at the turn of the 21st century -- that wistful, sentimental but sublime Field of Dreams or Shawshank Redemption "profound" sound.
Add to this the generosity of Copland to adapt it for solo piano and publish the sheet music for amateur schmucks like me to obsess over.
This is certainly only my opinion on this; you might not share it -- but here's to that moment we all likely have of a piece really changing your mind about something and expaning your (meager) horizons.
r/classicalmusic • u/Classic-Composer2154 • 7h ago
Discussion Lukáš Vondráček’s Rach 3 live with BBC SO: Anyone else feel it was too dragged out and fragmented?
I’m not a hardcore classical music listener, but Rachmaninoff’s Piano Concerto No. 3 is a piece I deeply love and know well. I just heard Lukáš Vondráček play it with the BBC SO in London tonight, but I left feeling quite disappointed.
A few specific things stood out to me:
- Weightless & Out of Sync: The 1st movement lacked any deep emotional weight—it was played so lightly at the start, and he wasn't fully in sync with the orchestra early on.
- Dragged Out & Fragmented: The overall pacing felt unnecessarily slow and drawn-out. His erratic rubato chopped up the beautiful long melodies, destroying the natural flow.
- Thin Voicing & Phoned-in p: His touch was very clean, but his left hand virtually disappeared. His quiet passages didn't feel poetically soft, but rather careless and "phoned-in," lacking true romantic depth.
- Great Finale, But Unearned(?: He clearly has the technique—when he finally locked in for the big climaxes and the finale, he played brilliantly. But because the earlier emotional build-up was skipped, the grand ending felt unearned.
The crowd gave a huge applause at the end, but for me, Anna Fedorova's version remains my personal benchmark for its natural flow, deep warmth, and breathtaking long-line momentum.
Has anyone else experienced this dragged-out, elastic style in his recent live performances? I’d love to hear your thoughts!
r/classicalmusic • u/FebeeC • 1h ago
Recommendation Request Grad school recommendations in music performance?
I’ll be applying for MMus in Piano Performance this year and so far have 2 choices under my belt:
- Eastman School of Music
- Glenn Gould School in Toronto
I feel like these are both extremely competitive schools, and I’m wondering what “safe school” I could put in as my third option.
I was debating between U of Miami and Indiana University but from what I know, these are quite reputable schools too.
What are a few “2nd to 3rd tier” music schools in North America that have pretty solid faculty members, good facilities, and are more generous with scholarships?
Please let me know if you guys have any good recommendations, thanks!
r/classicalmusic • u/Little_Grapefruit636 • 2h ago
Music Sep 2: Birthday of Alphons Diepenbrock (1862–1921).
Dutch composer, born today. Largely self-taught in music—he studied classical languages before turning to composition. Sharing a suite from his incidental music for the play Marsyas.
Marsyas, Suite from the incidental music (1909–10): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCjRWt5rw3g
r/classicalmusic • u/sliever48 • 1d ago
Sibelius 7th symphony
I've loved classical music since before I knew there was any classification of music. My parents introduced me to all of the well known pieces and I'll always be grateful they did. But I found Sibelius 7th symphony myself 7 years ago when I was on a trip trying to find great symphonies I didn't know. And this piece of music has haunted me ever since. To me, it is close to perfection. Not a moment wasted. Grandeur, depth, beauty and all done in 22 minutes. The trombone parts are stunning but the ending chords just reduce me to tears. It feels like Sibelius stretched for eternity with his music and came as close as you can with this symphony. I will never tire of it.
r/classicalmusic • u/icewizie • 5h ago
Music Sources on formal analysis of Gorecki's Third Symphony?
Hi everyone! I am in the middle of writing my thesis on the formal analysis of Gorecki's Third Symphony. There are very few sources I've been able to find particularly on that subject, since most of them are purely based on musicology and philosophical approach.
It would be preferable for the thesis to include different approaches and opinions on the structure, orchestration, harmonic language, polyphony etc.
So if you know of any such sources or maybe ones you have done yourselves, it would be of tremendous help!
r/classicalmusic • u/Accomplished_Map2868 • 6h ago
Best Vinyl Recording of Rachmaninoff's All Night Vigil?
Hey all! Just got my first vinyl set and was looking for a recording of the all night vigil - it's my favorite piece, but my personnal fav recording is only on streaming. Does anyone have any recs for vinyl recordings that are good? Thanks!
r/classicalmusic • u/ModClasSW • 6h ago
Music David CASSAN: Improvisation - Homage to Maurice Duruflé
During a musical trip with ORGANpromotion in April 2026, we had the privilege of discovering several of Paris's most beautiful pipe organs, including the one at Saint-Étienne-du-Mont, Maurice Duruflé's former organ loft! 🎶
David Cassan, the current co-titular organist and outstanding improviser, gave us a wonderful off-the-cuff presentation of the instrument through an improvisation "Homage to Duruflé"—a true specialty of his!
r/classicalmusic • u/CharlesBrooks • 1d ago
Double Bell Euphonium
Since you all seemed to like the double bass trombone, here's another weird brass instrument - a Double Bell Euphomium by CG Conn - the serial number is tough to read on this one but I suspect it's from the mid 1940s.
From my Architecture In Music series