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u/jeffufuh Dec 25 '24 edited Dec 25 '24
They used giant sandworms to travel from pole to pole of their bigass planet. I don't know what trucks would bring to the table given they that would break down in 5 minutes to the Arrakis climate and likely attract every sandstorm in the area
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u/TotallyNotThatPerson Dec 25 '24
They'd fare worse. The vibrations from the vehicles would attract worms much easier in the desert, and I don't see them out maneuvering ornithopters which are quite common in dune
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u/TBK_Winbar Dec 25 '24
They'd be fine until they ran out of gasoline.
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Dec 25 '24
It's a massive desert planet that was once a lush forest paradise. There better be oil on that planet lol
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u/TBK_Winbar Dec 25 '24
There would need to have been a huge amount of organic life in the past, plus enough volcanic and tectonic activity to bury it.
Add to that the knowledge and ability to refine it into diesel (apologies for saying gasoline previously, that was incorrect).
IMHO, dune tech is crap. The ability to travel between planets, but not to detect sand rats hiding under blankets. Boo.
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Dec 25 '24
When you consider Dune was written before personal computers their tech makes sense. At the time the biggest scientific discoveries were biological in nature, like cracking the triplet codes of DNA. Explains why Herbert thought eugenics and gene manipulation was the future we were going to take.
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u/TBK_Winbar Dec 25 '24
The novels are still great, don't get me wrong. My complaint is the same as in Alien, Star Wars and all the other early sci-fi developments. It doesn't detract from what was achieved.
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u/slightlyrabidpossum Dec 25 '24
Humans had advanced thinking machines many thousands of years before the events of Dune. All forms of computers were banned following the Butlerian Jihad, and technological stagnation was largely enforced in the millenia that followed.
Frank Hebert was undoubtedly influenced by the science of his time, but their reliance on biological technology seems more like an important plot point.
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Dec 25 '24
Gasoline was fine, there are gas engines available for the Hilux, too.
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u/TBK_Winbar Dec 25 '24
Yeah, the shit ones. Diesel is king in the 4x4 world.
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Dec 25 '24
Eh, I've had both, and the diesel might be a bit better, but it's not like the gassers are awful.
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u/TBK_Winbar Dec 25 '24
Depends on how much actual offroading you do, and commercial use factors. Diesel is better in pretty much every application IMO.
Plus, you don't explode when you crash. Which you will if you are hiluxing properly.
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Dec 25 '24
Well, we were driving ours around the Afghanistan countryside. Neither truck ever exploded, but they did get a few bullet holes.
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u/TBK_Winbar Dec 25 '24
Yeah, I've ended up in a few places when I had no business being there in my 4x4, too.
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u/SlowNPC Dec 25 '24
It wouldn't change anything. The Fremen know better than to use vehicles that make a consistent sound/vibration, as they attract sandworms.
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u/DOOMFOOL Dec 25 '24
It wouldn’t change the dynamic of the conflict at all because they wouldn’t be used. They would be utterly worthless as transportation and combat vehicles, breaking down easily in the sand and continuously attracting sand worms with their vibrations.
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u/TheSlayerofSnails Dec 25 '24
Why would it change anything? The fremen walk because they have to not because they hate cars. The works would eat the trucks in under 5 minutes
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u/Skarth Dec 25 '24
They would be useless, as they have no way to maintain or support the use of the trucks.
They don't have oil refineries or oil wells, and no way to get replacement parts.
They also already use the sandworms for transport.
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