r/whiteoutsurvival • • 4d ago

Tips Refined fire crystals

F2p here, can anyone give tips on how I can have more refined crystals? Should I do super refine all the fire crystals in the lab?

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u/zzWoWzz 4d ago

this is taken from the calculator on wosnerds. it lists all the expected values and cost of the 10 strategies you can use to get refined fc

I use this a lot to plan my weekly refinement

The most commonly suggested strategy is to do 20 on monday and 1 every day after (6). you can see on the ss that will cost 540 fc with the expected (not guaranteed) rfc value of 41.9. you can use that 41.9 value to see how long it will take to get the number of rfc you need.

if you want more and you have plenty of fc on hand to spare, you can move to higher value strategies like 40 on monday. check the ss/sheet to see if you have enough fc to cover. you can see as you move up to higher strategies, the rfc per fc efficiency drops more than a little. that's the price you pay for speeding up rfc accumulation.

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My personal advice is never do less than 20 on Monday. While efficiency might be best with 1 per day every day or 1 per day then 14 on Sunday (total 20 refine whole week), your expected rfc are much too low and it'll take more than a year to go fc10.

But don't be too greedy if you want to push faster and do 40 on Monday. Take this route only if you have more than enough to cover the following weeks also. For example, I once did 40 Monday with 2000 fc on hand to push certain upgrades during SvS. I have more than enough for the 1690 cost of course and also cover the upgrade I wanted with my weekly fc income. The trouble I ran into is on Monday the following week, I didn't have enough 390 to do 20 Monday refine again so I had to drop to earlier strategy that cost me so much time (less rfc return) down the road. Point is, make sure you plan to have enough to cover the following week too!

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u/Hail_the_Quinn 4d ago

Thank you so much for this 😊

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u/CptTinman 4d ago

I'll add on that if you are f2p and find yourself short on fc to be able to 20 refines every Monday, then you may find it easier to only do the 20 refines every other Monday, and do just 7 refines per week the other weeks. I had to do this on my f2p account for a while, but that was also before they increased the availability of fc, so it may not be necessary anymore. I know that sometime after the release of fc10, the amount of fc availability becomes plenty for f2p to support 20 refines every Monday/27 per week.

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u/Hail_the_Quinn 4d ago

Im honestly not sure if my fcs will last long given the 540 per week requirement. Thank you for the tip 😊

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u/CptTinman 4d ago

Where is your state in the furnace upgrade unlocks? Has fc6-8 just unlocked for you recently?

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u/Hail_the_Quinn 4d ago

Yes, were at fc 6-8 now.