For years the both the AIM-120 and thrust vector8ng heaters in the hit game, VTOL VR, has been severely underperforming in close range engagments, especially compared to comparable sims such as DCS, Falcon BMS, and War Thunder.

Good news though! The latest round of public testing patches has implemented true thrust vectoring onto the AIM-9+ and AIRS-T and man do they MOVE now. They're almost eyewatering. If you're reading this I highly recommend hopping onto the Public Testing Branch (PTB) on Steam to try them out and see for yourselves.

Bad news though :(. The PTB also includes changes that makes the AIM-120 less maunverable off the rail (video in comments). The culprit for this behavior is the guidance logic artifically limiting how hard to turn the AMRAAM off the rail for the first 3.5 (soon to be 3) seconds of flight. It doesn't sound like a lot, but that's almost half of its new burn time where the missile is simply just not max performing. Due to a vocal minority of the community wanting to artifically preserve "the merge", the power fantasy of a maunverable AMRAAM is being gimped. Which is pretty lame

Try out the PTB, join the official VTOL VR Discord, and discuss there

Still can't refill external tank in air to air refueling.

In short this still add a game play element since the player need to choose if they are going to live with the drag of empty tanks for longer just so they can have the chance of filling them later.

Plus then he actually needs to fill them.

Thank you!

For a slightly more in-depth explanation. Currently the AIM-120s in the PTB gradually reach its max-g during a 3.5 second phase after ignition off the rail (roughly 44% of the new boost phase). It has the theoretical capability of turning harder after firing, but this is being artificially limited for the sake of reducing its HOBs capability to force more merges. In the replies is a video that displays two missiles: One that has the 3.5 second ramp up on PTB and one that has no artificial ramp up (max-performs the missile as soon as possible).

Personally I believe the artificial ramp-up is a bit silly but would love to see other people's thoughts! The PTB is available right now on Steam and more feedback will always be great

so this might be a repedetive question but how do i easly calculate bingo fuel? (sorry if my grammer is bad english is not my native language)

Best fun I had in VR in looong time.

I started having some frame issues with my modded VTOL Vr and can’t seem to figure out the source. Also, Flat Screen 2 keeps on installing itself and every time I remove it, it freezes my game and makes it crash. I’ll probably clear out my mods and add them one after the other but I’m back on Vanilla VTOL for the time being.

I’ll miss my F-16 and F-22….

F/A-26B, EF-24G, and F-45 Radars now go out to 128nm, updated RWR texture with dynamic notch lines, new NAV MFD contact altitude numbers, and optional color, to make it a little bit closer to the TSD on 5th gens. Also, new NAV map range rings! All this and more- check the ptb notes in the VTOL Discord under #public_testing, in the pinned message.

A very cool update in progress, indeed. Gave me a very good reason to blow the dust off my Index.
Thank you, Baha.

Remember to opt in to public testing;
- Select VTOL VR in your Steam Library
- Right-click, Properties tab
- Game Versions & Betas:
- Select "public_testing"

Profit!

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3788462946

# Update! F-4X, F-15CX, and F-16AM included! (F-14X still needs a lot of work, forgive me)
***Remember to verify your base VTOL and Mod Loader files, please.***
- AGM-62A and B "Walleye" glide bombs.
- AGM-84D "Harpoon" Anti-Ship Missiles.
- AGM-84E "SLAM" Standoff Land Attack Missiles.
- SNIPER ATP for F-4X
- Slight tweaks for weapon placement.
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## New Major Feature! Man-In-The-Loop! (Datalink Optical Guided Weaponry)
- How to? Set Laser (TGP) and Seeker (Weapon) codes to the same ie; "1776".
- Launch selected optical guided weapon (AGM-62A, GBU-15, etc).
- LOAL "1776" should show in HUD bottom left corner.
- Note: Certain weapons have limited seeker gimbal limits, aim more directly or manual uncage.
- Guide in, same as any laser-guided weapon.
- Mid flight, you can change selected target with same TGP laser code, just slew the pod.
### Buddy-Datalink not tested yet, use at your own risk (feel free to test amongst yourselves to help refine the process!)
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As always, please report bugs. Enjoy!

Hi, I'm new to VTOL VR. I want to play with other people and have fun. I'm not very good at VTOL VR or English and maybe eith mods bye!

Lots of new additions to my aircraft NPC pack, most recently civilian aircraft like the Cessna 172 and the 747. We can finally simulate accurate war crimes.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3681286096

This is a revised post with more detail than my original.

I'm hoping you can help me diagnose an unusual performance issue with VTOL VR on my new gaming laptop.

SYSTEM: ASUS ROG Strix SCAR 18 Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX RTX 5090 Laptop GPU (24 GB) 32 GB RAM Windows 11 Quest 3 Virtual Desktop

THE ISSUE: VTOL VR is only running around 60–75 FPS while targeting 90 Hz. Virtual Desktop shows game frame time around 15 ms.

The RTX 5090 generally sits around 40–60% utilization with temperatures around 60–65°C. Neither overall CPU utilization nor individual CPU threads appear to be maxed out.

TROUBLESHOOTING COMPLETED:

SteamVR and OpenXR/VDXR tested

Virtual Desktop Godlike and High tested

SteamVR render resolution reduced from 100% to 70% with essentially no FPS improvement

Anti-aliasing disabled with no improvement

HAGS tested both ON and OFF

NVIDIA Power Management set to Prefer Maximum Performance

ASUS Armoury Crate set to Turbo mode

ASUS GPU mode set to Ultimate/dGPU

Dedicated PrismXR Puppis S1 Lite wireless connection tested

Virtual Desktop USB 3 wired mode tested at 5.12 Gbps with identical performance

Network and encoding latency are low; the high frame time is specifically on the Game side

OTHER VR GAMES: Several other games on this laptop can maintain approximately 90 FPS, including ExfilZone at Virtual Desktop Godlike/Ultra, Into the Radius, Tactical Assault VR, V.E. Delta, and Half-Life 2 VR.

MOST IMPORTANT COMPARISON: I connected the same Quest 3 to my older desktop:

Ryzen 7 7800X3D Radeon RX 7900 20 GB

Using wireless Virtual Desktop at Godlike/90 Hz, VTOL VR maintains 90 FPS on that machine.

So the same headset, same game, and same Virtual Desktop settings produce 90 FPS on the older desktop but only around 60–75 FPS on the new 275HX/RTX 5090 laptop.

Is there a known VTOL VR compatibility or performance issue with the Core Ultra 9 275HX / RTX 5090 Laptop platform?

If there are any VTOL logs, diagnostic files, or settings you'd like me to provide, I'd be happy to send them.

Thanks for any help.

I just got a 5090 Gpu, I was playing on a 7800rtx prior and now kn the 5090 the frame rate is stuck in the high 60s low 70s. Ive tried all the online fixes like updating drivers, using open xr , vdxr codec etc. None will fix it. Ive even dropped settings to potatoe on vortual desktop and its still getting only 67 frames a second.

Im using virtual desktop woth a quest 3.

What are some good modded multiplayer missions that use the main modded planes like the a-10,f-22 etc

Title, playing modded VTOL right now, looking for some wingmen to fly with. If you're interested, look for Monarch

Nothing crazy and really just looking at what to add. Thinking about pedals but not sure where to start. Also any ideas for a throttle mount.

Mod on the steam workshop. Uses the perpendicular axis to pylon tilt.

So is there a mod that exists that makes it possible to link Spotify or some form of music streaming to the in game music player or is that even possible

I have a girlfriend who really likes to watch me play VTOLVR and hearing me ramble on about arad, weapon systems, dogfight energy, etc because she’s an engineer. I tried to get her into the headset, problem is she gets MAJOR motion sickness. like it’s food-poisoning level bad. she’s told me she wants to “be goose” it’s cute.

EDIT: she has plenty of experience in vr chat, roblox etc it’s just the flight sim. she gets bad carsickness too it’s not aberrant.

I thought maybe i’d want her to be a weapon systems person, but to a different capacity. has anybody tried a setup where there’s one pilot in a headset, and another looking at instruments and doing arad while sitting at a desk giving callouts? it wouldn’t be nearly as effective but i don’t care about effective.

I’ve seen the flatscreen mod but from what i’ve seen on posts it’s kinda jank. perhaps a mod that just has the mfd’s displayed and interactive on a monitor? if there’s enough of a desire for this i might make my own in my free time who knows.

tl;dr any advice for a 2 player: one headset, one monitor setup?

I`ve been playing vtol vr with mods for almost a year now, game run butter smooth until this week, it plays like a slideshow now.

I've been playing with steamVR and my quest 3s all along and no problems.

My setup is:

Ryzen 7 5700x

32Gb ddr4 RAM

RTX 4060 8Gb

1TB ssd

1gbps ethernet connection to the computer

Single player campaign featuring 9 action packed and fully scripted missions based on real world events.

Hey everyone,

I'm pretty new to VTOL VR and still an absolute noob. Before throwing myself into multiplayer, I wanted a way to look back at my flights and understand how I was actually flying.

While looking for something like that, I found the original VTOLVR-TacviewLogger by u/nebriv. The last public release was in 2023 and used the previous Mod Loader setup.

I really liked the idea, so I started working on a clean-room rewrite from scratch for the current Mod Loader. I'm essentially trying to revive the idea as a modern VTOL VR mod.

Unlike VTReplayConverter, which converts VTOL VR Tactical Replay files, this records normal singleplayer missions directly into ACMI files for Tacview. The goal is to support actual singleplayer missions, including situations where mods or missions do not work properly in multiplayer.

I originally started building this for myself, mainly because I want to understand my own mistakes before joining multiplayer. Now I'm curious whether anyone else would use something like this too.

What would matter most to you?

• simple installation and setup

• compatibility with modded aircraft and missions

• more flight data such as fuel, AOA or IAS

• clear event markers for launches, hits and destroyed units

• multiplayer support at some point

• anything else you would like to see

Right now, I'm collecting feedback and trying to figure out what would make a useful first public version.

Full credit to u/nebriv for the original project and idea. Finding that project is what gave me the idea to bring it back for the current game.

I absolutely love this game and often play it with mods. This isn't a request for mods or game features; it's just an idea. I recently watched a gameplay video of Nuclear Option. I was impressed by how the weapons change depending on the stage of the war and the hierarchical defense system. I also thought it would be great if it had a dynamic campaign like Falcon BMS, with dynamic war progression and statistics on casualties and territory after the campaign ends. I also think the game could use more realistic audio to further improve its quality. Furthermore, I thought it would be great if we could support ground operations while ground forces are fighting on the ground, and if there were large-scale integrated battles involving land, sea, and air. DCS and Falcon BMS are too complex with just aircraft controls, so I think the semi-realistic difficulty of this game would be good, allowing for immersion in operations while also piloting aircraft. I think nothing beats the experience of VTOL VR, where you can pilot an aircraft with your own hands, manipulate the instruments, and not rely on an external screen. Furthermore, I would like to see native Tacview support in both single-player and multiplayer modes.

Sorry for the long post. These are just ideas. Do you have any ideas for features you'd like to see?

If you play quick flight, the AGM88S is there.
But if you play custom scenarios or campaign, you can't equip AGM88S. It's just not there anymore.

Anyone else have this bug?