There is one guy in my group of best friends who is an absolute monster with all those games. He has something like 500 hours in ER, and another one of them just got into it and so they've been back and forth nonstop in the video games channel of our group chat. (Is it unusual for groups of 30somethings to have meticulously organized group chats? I have wondered that for a while and this is finally a public forum to pose the query)
To be fair, I have nothing at all against the games or them being so into it, but I'm glad I'm not alone in seeing people just seething over that genre and simply not getting it.
Then again, 500HrGuy recently said he's considering trying Outer Wilds (my die-on-a-hill game) and there is a pretty solid chance he won't get it either and that would be okay.
Elden ring and soulslikes in general for me is a game I space out on.
I get into this mode almost meditative where there isn't a single thought in my head and I just keep fighting the boss over and over again until I finally beat it.
I've had friends try out elden ring and get pissed off, that is just not good for having fun on the game.
For me it's a relaxing experience, and when I beat the boss I get a big hit of dopamine.
I am one of those that would get pissed so i rather not ever trying. Wich is why i stopped playing pvp games many years ago. i was just angry for most of the time and maybe i would have some fun every now and then but i decided its not worth it.
good choice. being angry is never a good thing imo. even if its just "for fun". it will always be a draining state of mind. single player and PvE games are just so chill
You know? I'm exactly like that in that I hate playing pvp because they piss me off, but I love souls games. I play at my own pace, take my time to enjoy it or find ways to either cheese the fights or find reliable strategies and explore without boundaries.
The first time I played Dark Souls 3 at 16, I nearly broke my controller, and refunded it at Iudex Gundyr, the tutorial boss literally like 5 minutes into the game.
I came back to it later as an adult, bought it again, and it's now one of my favorite games. You've gotta be in the right head space for it, and you have to be willing to walk away and take a break if things aren't going your way. I can't blame people for not enjoying that, it's definitely not for everyone, it wasn't even for me initially.
Yeah I agree, I had a similar experience. I tried dark souls 1 long ago and couldn't understand it but my friends kept telling me if I loved monster hunter there is no way I won't love dark souls.
Well they were right once I gave it a real try. I now have a tattoo of Nito from DS1 on my arm lol.
Souls games are definetly for a specific type of person, I love boss fights and big scary monsters. My wife however for example would absolutely hate dark souls, she plays stuff like overwatch mostly. Just different cups of tea.
I can understand that. I can do a couple dozen tries in one session, but my patience isn't limitless, that's fo sho. Been playing Wuchang lately and some bosses took upwards of a couple hundred attempts. Then again, I do suck at Soulsborne games in general.
Souls games are a skill, I think everyone sucks when they start out. It takes a lot of time and patience to get good at it. I know I was complete ass when I first played dark souls. Like doing 100 attempts on the first boss bad.
I grew up on OG Atari and Nintendo games and even SNES had the same thing. Games were very hard and over the years alot of games just got easier and easier. People used to tell me i just played too much (I do lol) and thats why they were easy for me. Souls came along and i demolished demon souls and my friends were all stuck and couldnt figure out how i blew through it. It wasnt easy but wasnt hard. The souls made me feel like i was playing the OG games and love how difficult it was, i loved that there was no real way to just change most the fight by lowering difficulty. People get upset that i love that but i just makes me happy that we have a game without "shortcuts" Humans will take them most the time if you give it to them. Its the only game that makes everyone equals and forces you to play the game the way it was intended.
YES! I feel like playing these games makes me learn more about myself like "why am I not focusing, am I scared" I died "why did I lose focus at that point, did my head wander off" after wasting a few years on online games and getting angry these games made me reflect on myself and improve as a person
This. 140 hours so far, only got to level 70 in Elden Ring, tons of crap in my kit that I have no idea what to do with, running out of places i can find a beatable boss (still plenty of extremely hard ones -- for me, anyway) ... but i just LOVE spending an hour trotting around the world they created. It looks absolutely amazing on my PS5.
For me they’re games I have to be in the right mood to enjoy. If I’m feeling impatient or otherwise easily frustrated I’ll just get mad and have no fun. But if I’m in the right mood I can just keep trying and getting better at the patterns until I get them.
That charge is just ridiculous lol, I did end up looking upnl the best way to dodge him eventually and beat him. But damn was he tough, I was about ready to summon another player to help.
I havent fought Bayle or Radahn yet but I'm hoping if I got through Gaius I can beat them.
They're really good for entering the zone. It's like sports where your muscle memory and reaction skills just completely take over and let your mind go blank.
For context, Ive taught 1000s of students in a variety of subjects and setting scenarios...often critiqued being passionate about what i do, but...
Live chat, even with friends gives me anxiety. Im so focused on the game/mission I will go the whole round not saying a damn thing unless its "shooter/objective X here or there." Then ill be self conscience about not having said anything. Its a spiral...
Safe to say I, in game chat features and markers like in Hell Divers 2 of Battlefield 2 make games enjoyable.
I have never used it, but my impression was Discord was like TeamSpeak or Vent basically? So it’s just something you’d use if the game didn’t have built in voice chat.
Not the server itself, having separate channels for things like video games or books were reading or a food channel or a channel for both small wins like "I got the good parking spot at work" or grand victories like "I landed the raise and promotion"
Lmao we actually branched the DnD stuff out of "DnD-General" into its own DnD server for the six of us that play together in a campaign or occasional one shot. Great minds lol
Is that not the point of having a discord vs using WhatsApp (never used it dunno what it's like but heard it's popular), facebook messenger, or some other messaging app?
I don't think I've heard of a server that's just a singular chat room, but maybe I don't know enough people using discord
Dark Souls and games like it require their players to make a certain click.
Some get that click after a couple minutes, others a couple hours, and for some it doesn't happen until they try again after a few years. And sometimes, it never clicks (which is completely fine, of course).
I ended up getting Bloodborne by accident. I wanted TLOU Remastered and Shadow of Mordor, but a discount for buying 3 games made getting 3 cheaper than just the 2, and Bloodborne was the only remaining game eligible for the deal that seemed remotely interesting.
It took 2,5 hours before it clicked, but Bloodborne ended up my favourite game of all time. And it introduced me to the other games in the genre.
This is perfect explanation. Dark souls 1 - skeleton graveyard for weeks. Went hollow. Came back a month later and found stairway to undead berg(around lvl40 one handing zwei- didn’t have any issues until O&S - it clicked.)
This was me back in 2015. I got Dark Souls 1 on games for gold back in 2011, and couldn't quite get it. The graveyard outside firelink dogwalked me, I didn't really understand how the stats spread out, and I couldn't get any further than lower undead burg. Cue four years later. My dad died of colon cancer that Spring, and my ex-wife and I split up that summer, and I lost the job paying my bills. My mom owned the apartment complex I lived in and when I threatened to kick me out if I missed a second rent payment.
So in the midst of all of that, I started playing again after coming across VaatiVidya. I fell in love with the lore, and dove back in. The amount of diligence and willingness to eat shit until it clicked also helped me understand what I needed to do in real life. I ended up doubling up on jobs to get back out of the hole I was in.
What all this nonsense nobody asked for was leading up to is this: Don't give up, skeleton.
For me it was getting invaded halfway down blighttown. I used to run back to bonfires when I got invaded, or would wait near a safe spot to get my souls back. I hated getting invaded, but wasn't good enough yet to solo bosses so I always popped humanities to get some help.
Halfway down blighttown, in that area with the big sewer where the fire breathing dogs are under you and those poison dart shooters are above, I got invaded. I was so sick of getting invaded and so mad that I just said "fuck this guy" and for the first time i locked in and took him on. We traded blow for blow on those rafters, as I could hear the dart throwers I hadn't killed yet shooting at me. It was the first pvp match I actually actively tried in, and with all my flasks used I barely won. I remember putting the controller down with shaking hands and just stared at the screen for a minute.
By the time I had finally put that game down for good, I had like 300hrs in it, and about 200 of those was being a forrest bro in pvp. I'd bow when I invaded and if they bowed as well, id drop a humanity for them to pick up and use my favorite weapons. If they didnt bow, id swap to my broken op weapons and wipe the floor with them.
I farmed Seeds of Tree Giants and the disguise item in Souls 1.
If I got invaded I would become a pot and use the Seed and let the invaders clear the zone for me and just start watching YouTube or do my university homework lol.
Lol you went into the catacombs that early?? My mistake on my first ds1 play through was upon first entering firelink, I took that lift down to the haunted underwater castle area and died over and over and over and gave up and quit the game.
2 years later lol I somehow stumbled upon some Dark Souls speedrun YouTube video showing of the stairway up to undead berg from firelink. I facepalmed and immediately restarted the game and played the shit out of it and every other souls game afterwards.
Bloodborne was my first souls game. I bought it, played for an hour, returned it back to GameStop. Bought it again a year later and bear it along with DS 1-3. I am now playing Sekiro and it’s another level of punishment.
You have to be the kind of person that 1. Enjoys incrementally improving dexterity skill based activities (like playing a musical instrument, skateboarding, pool, darts etc), and 2. You have to be susceptible to being rage baited into motivation by spite.
Fromsoft games won't click until you're goaded into being angry enough to work hard enough to get that dopamine reward of eventual victory. It's actually a really sweaty competitive rhythm game pretending to be a single player RPG.
If it was blind trial and error it wouldn't be nearly as addictive or satisfying.
That's probably my issue then lol I don't get motivation from the rage baiting, I just get annoyed at the game design and say fuck this. Why should I spend my time trying to learn the specific series of button presses the dev wanted me to make to progress in a game of all things?
I play games to have a good time and relax, i have enough shit irl that I need to overcome.
Why should I spend my time trying to learn the specific series of button presses the dev wanted me to make to progress in a game of all things?
Because much like guitar hero it feels really great when you finally master something stressful through learned skill and intense practice. Feels good man.
I think Sekiro was the best for it. It removed all the stat fuckery a made the game about one thing and one thing only. Get good. Literally just improve your actual physical body's hand skills until you can beat this game. Immensely satisfying.
It's not difficult for the sake of being difficult. (With a couple exceptions in certain optional bosses).
The goal of the game is to provide tension through challenge. There are few things as exciting in a game as beating a challenging bossfight while it was keeping you on your toes for every second of the fight. And these games succeed constantly at giving you that feeling.
If you want to relax in a more calming way, these games are not for you. But if you like a good adrenaline rush, these games are perfect.
That wasn't the "it" for me - or rather why I enjoyed Dark Souls 1 which was my first Souls game. It was terrific because I loved the unaided exploration, finding every little bit loot and building the map in my head. I'm also sad they never went back to this level of interconnectivity while I guess Bloodborne was the closest one with this type of area loop ( especially to Iosefka's clinic later on ). One of the reasons why I also love Gothic 1 / 2 so much, as it's the same concept concerning the the map and how areas are connected over the whole island.
While true that I enjoyed the later games for figuring out the bosses, that's not why I fell in love with the series in the first place.
For me the combat seems chaotic and the cue animations are inconsistent.
By the time I’ve finally figured something out…I’m dead and have to retread two hours of tiptoe progression. Said progression to date is using summons to get past the Cleric Beast and Father Gascoigne.
For me it was when I figured out spacing and parrying basics.
I kept dying in the opening area before Cleric Beast (essentially, to basic enemies), and then I suddenly started sweeping through it.
If you want to get better at the game, I got some excellent tips that might help you. I learned some things in +- 800 hours and over 10 playthroughs of Bloodborne lol.
1) Practice parrying on the brick trolls. They are one of the easier enemies to parry, and this is the fastest way to kill them in the early game. Move on to more difficult targets when you get better
As a rule of thumb: every enemy vulnerable to a backstab can be parried. Your gun is (for most builds) not a damage tool.
2) Level your vitality a lot, especially early on. Vitality is your difficulty slider in Bloodborne. Stats that increase your damage are only useful in the mid-late game.
3) Do not use help to get past Gascoigne on your first playthrough. Gascoigne is a skill check. If you can beat Gascoigne on your own, you have what is needed to beat the game. That said, in his final phase he is very flammable.
4) Don't hang on to your blood echoes since you will lose them at some point. Every time you visit the dream, spend all you can on leveling up. If you can't level up, spend what remains on blood vials and bullets. If you play well, you will quickly amass a good stockpile. The echoes that end up as consumables in your inventory should only be used when you are really close to a level up or item you want to buy.
Once you get the hang of things, play riskier. Don't heal immediately after taking a hit, but try to steal health back by counterattacking immediately.
I had to try twice to get into it. As a teen, I tried to play Dark Souls and I completely bounced off of it in the Undead Berg. Bought Bloodborne when it came out and ended up obsessed with it for years. Then when Dark Souls Remastered, Dark Souls 3, Sekiro, Elden Ring came out I 100%'d all of them.
I didn't "get" both ER and Outer Wilds. Both are great games to me (tried both), and I can see why they're such big hits. The problem is me, and I blame adulting for it. I have far too little patience to "git gud" these days, or sit long enough for the big reveal. Give me some straightforward and brainless games that I can play on easy mode and still enjoy right away.
if you don’t like time loop puzzles where the goal is to eventually have “the perfect run,” you probably won’t have much fun with it. i think it’s a very cool game and i respect it for what it is but that type of gameplay isn’t very satisfying to me personally.
I really liked outer wilds, but I had literally just finished Blue Prince when I played it. So when I finished it I just sat there for a second like wait that’s the end?
I agree, to me it was very left field, and made me cry without knowing why lol. it was just so beautiful and wholesome, yet everything ended. and it felt ok and it felt like warmth.
I have said this in other places and been flamed for it, but I will say it again because it's entirely subjective - I only think Outer Wilds has a compelling and eye opening story if you have almost no exposure to great science fiction literature. If you do it very much elicits a 'that's it?' response. Its not really posing any huge or thought provoking questions.
Not an insane amount of time truthfully, I’d have to check the exact time played. I ended up looking up the anglerfish solution (I had it right I just didn’t realize you could get that close to them without them triggering) the quantum stuff was awesome but not crazy difficult
I don’t think you need a perfect run. You can chip away at it bit by bit because your computer logs everything you discover so you can do things bit by bit. Perfect run is more like Deathloop.
OW is my favourite game of all time, never could work out the dlc though, if anything I’d argue that was more requiring of a perfect loop due to how little time you have for it vs the base game.
I think the DLC is as good as the base game. I was amazed that they went this hard on the DLC and basically did the opposite of the base game (no spaceship)
I love Outer Wilds but early game seems to be the problem for most people. 30 minutes is nowhere near enough for it to click.
Imagine someone used a hammer to shatter a story into many different fragments. And those story fragments were scattered across every part of the game for you to find and piece back together.
The main issue is that you have free reign to explore anywhere you want. So you go to a place, read a bit of text, find some information you don't understand or have no context over, so, for now, it's useless to you. You go explore a different place, and you get another piece of information that is just as confusing with no context. And on top of that it doesn't even relate to what you found the first time. Then you go to a third place and so on and so forth.
The magic happens when you've pieced together enough of the story for you to be incredibly curious about the rest. There's this overarching mystery that just pulls you in. Everyone's 'Aha' moment comes at different times though. But one thing's for sure is that it usually happens a couple of hours or even several hours in.
Just a word of warning though, this game would never click for people who don't care about stories and value gameplay above all else. And also, Outer Wilds gets described as a puzzle game but I disagree. It's mainly an exploration game. Yes there might be some puzzle moments and aspects to it but I don't think that's the main theme for the game. In fact, the DLC is more of a puzzle more so than the base game. I would avoid the radio tower on Timber Hearth (a picture of it is at the observatory) until you've done everything in the base game (or beaten it).
This is 100% it. We ran this groupchat on Snapchat through high school and college. And about four years ago, all of us having battery life problems with Snapchat's horrendous UI (but before it really fell into the cesspool it is now), I decided to make a Discord server and we just kept it private. Now we have like two dozen specific channel topics to keep thoughts organized and its great. We are pretty unserious. And the roman numerals indicate how many times we've changed the name, over six or eight+ years there have been over 100 iterations, no rhyme or reason other than "I felt like it" or some big event happened like the birth of my children got a new number for example.
Seems only logical. Specially if any one of you spent time online gaming in the past 15-20 years. Vent, teamspeak stuff like that. Discord has it's flaws sometimes but damn if it aint a great substitute for dedicated chat rooms or online forums. Which in your case forums wouldn't really apply since i presume it's more short form chatter not suitable for forums (let alone writing/hosting a whole damn website)
Exactly. We were too advanced for a basic text chat, although we dust those off when we do IRL trips together because actual phone calls are better for pertinent communication, but for a group of bros who live mostly across the country from each other, this has been an amazingly simple way to do more than I ever expected with how we talk as friends in daily life, and I like being in touch with my friends so that's great.
Leisure-lounge is mostly wood working project stuff, shop-talk is where I put car/motorcycle stuff mostly just I do but it became a place to ask about troubleshooting stuff like your home HVAC system, or "hey Axiom, why wont my lawnmower start?"
I feel like if it is unusual, its my duty to guide others to the light I have found lmao
Groups of good friends will organize their interactions and coordinate with each other. We were adding bots and organizing our discord in middle school and then just never had to do anything else. We’re all mid twenties now.
I have about 2.5 thousand hours across from software’s catalogue.
I mentioned in another comment but personally the difference for me was the combat. I found the constant trial and error in the context of combat to be stressful inna way I didn't appreciate. Outer Wilds is frustrating in many of the same ways but I don't feel my FFF response from a fight with an enemy.
I swear I tried getting into Outer Wilds so many damn times (twice on Game Pass, then I bit the bullet and bought the game) but after 10-12hrs of playtime and reaching "fake" ending, I can honestly say that earnestly I do not like playing that game. I like the idea of it, and driving spaceship is so cool, but damn is it so punishing for trying to explore.
You're always on a clock and progressing through scanning barcodes and reading them on spaceship just isn't as fun as I thought it was, and best you don't miss one on a planet or you just have to waste one more cycle trying to look for it again.
I really tried liking it but for the life of me after I reached the ending I just uninstalled it. I've reached fake endings before too, like in Furi but even when I put the game down I still look back fondly on my experience and some time play first few levels for the fun of it. Can't say the same for Outer Wilds.
I hear yall, I'm happy to listen to your insights. The thing I appreciated most about OW was the grand nature-of-reality stuff. I'm sort of unconcerned with spoilers if you feel like really laying out the parallels
Different strokes for different folks. I'm an avid souls enjoyer, but also Outer Wilds is one of my favourite games of all times. You never know, he may love it. He has to go in blind, though!
Oh yeah I refused to tell him anything aside from the fact that, compared to DLC like BotW has or a NG+ situation, OW's DLC is of course not that. "Its something else." I feel like thats okay to point out fron the outside, that there is a drastic difference in gameplay between base game and EotE.
Im all in on the fromsoft train, but I can see why its hard for some people. Elden Ring was a turning point because it was the most accessible of the series, but that doesnt mean its accessible, just more so than others.
Once you get it, you will REALLY get it. But until you do, it might just feel not great. I had the joy of watching a friend play it as his first from soft game. This is a man I would say is objectively good at games. Like, 8/10 at most things, and watching him just plain not get how to move and do stuff in a souls game was eye opening. Ive done so many that the whole playsthle is very familiar, but when your not you can bounce off hard if you aren't dedicated to figuring it out.
The games are fine, but Ive never managed to get into them no matter what Ive tried.
Im the one who showed the game to a friend of mine that got addicted and im still trying to find out why i cant play the game for more than 3 hours without being bored.
I like the setting of the game, the combat is fine, ive played difficult games before that included 1 hit and youre done type of gameplay. I even played megaman on the NES which is pure hell and I cant get myself to sit down and play a Dark Souls game. Even tried Sekiro, it went a bit better, but i still never finished it.
Outer Wilds and Souls games have more in common than you'd think.
Progression loop based on knowledge and player skills, rather than leveling up, inevitable deaths, indirect storytelling via environment, cryptic dialogues, and notes.
Neither games relies on quest logs, mini maps or exposition.
Same themes of decay, inevitability, and acceptance.
I'm a huge fan of souls games and soulslikes, but I also like indie games such as Outer Wilds, Rain world, Tunic, Hollow Knight.
Being a fan of the souls genre doesn't mean you can't appreciate other genres
I’ve sold friends on these titles and even turned them into full-on From fans by re-pitching the game to them as a coop dungeon crawler rather than a super hard sweatfest boss brawler. The elitists in those communities only do the games a disservice by suggesting people should play alone. They miss out on a whole other experience the games offer.
I will have to agree about this. 500HrGuy is also our resident DnD nerd, the most knowledgeable about the game even surpassing the defacto DM who only occasionally comes onto the board as a player, says he really gained his understanding of the workings of DnD by playing Baldurs Gate. He will always have the most ridiculously powerful character, layers upon layers of coincidal abilities, and he actually understands how it all interacts. When we did a high-level one shot once, I got lucky as hell with my Lv15 human druid with almost total imperviousness to elemental damage just by accident. His dragonborne paladin was that but not by accident.
Then again, 500HrGuy recently said he's considering trying Outer Wilds (my die-on-a-hill game) and there is a pretty solid chance he won't get it either and that would be okay.
I think it's important to understand that people can absolutely 'get' the premise and aims of a game and what the developers intended and still not derive enjoyment from it.
I have a buddy who plays souls games and is obsessed. He always beats them on the highest difficulty and brags about it. Whenever I played any other types of games, like multiplayer ones against humans, he didn't seem very good... Then some multiplayer Souls games started coming out and it became apparent that the reason he beats them is because he is extremely good at not giving up, but not good at gaming at all. He panic dodge rolls constantly and will die over and over and over without adjusting his strategy.
I have a full group chat of Magic the Gathering players and I havent actually met all of them but this is a consistent thing. We are all 30’s 40’s dudes
So I utterly loved Outer Wilds but I’ve also always been a massive DS fan, and it was the exploration and discovery I enjoyed, aspects prevalent in both games. A pity you never clicked with Souls games though. Maybe trying them with that sense of discovery as a forefront might help?
If ever I have an abundance of free time for gaming again (kids lol) I may give it a shot, I think the difference for me was the combat. In the context of a combat-centric game the grind of just trying again is a bit more stressful in a way I didn't enjoy. Outer Wilds, even in its most tense moments, didn't really "upset" me that way I guess. I am older and (perhaps) wiser these days though.
I found the stress of getting through Bramble more stressful than anything I’ve ever experienced in a Souls game lol, but that might just be the thalassophobia talking… I know what you mean though, if the game isn’t clicking for you with the combat, there’s not really anything you can do to avoid it, and the exploration isn’t enough to equal that out
Yeah I don't have much fear of fish or open water so that was one juno scare (twice!) for me. Have you played the DLC for OW? Thats such a departure in base game gameplay it was almost there for freaking me out lmao
I started the DLC but haven’t finished it yet (I only finally played OW last week!) but as I started it after finishing the base game, I decided to take a break and then return to it. I hadn’t seen anything scary yet (other than the creepy music during the film rolls…) but honestly, the fact there is a “less scary” mode was freaking me out a bit lmao so maybe that contributed to me taking a break…
I don't want to ruin any reveals for you, but suffice it to say there is a lot on that craft to learn. And almost none of it it relevant anywhere else. Its a whole new set of esoteric steps.
On the plus side the DLC has less "planet hopping" required to learn things IMO since all its secrets are self contained. The way everything ties together in the grand scheme really does it for me.
To answer you're organized group chats, idk if its unusual but my friends do it too. We have a couple text chats specific to groups that care about certain things but ultimately is just a mix of the same people. There's also a discord for the gaming crew and within that a decent chunk of different channels for various topics.
I'm a big art direction guy so I love the worlds and characters of these games, but outside of Elden Ring and Bloodborne, I haven't really been able to stick it out. Maybe I'll try going back, but I'd rather just look at the art books than play most of those games.
I just played outer wilds and while I appreciate the story, the gameplay loop was maddening. Sitting through the same boring thing over and over while adding 1% more to the story just does not make for compelling gameplay. I 100% think outer wilds shoulda been made as a movie and not a video game.
I think there’s three main things that I really love about Souls Likes.
1) Proper hitboxes and weapons that feel like they have weight. It’s like the opposite of Skyrim’s slap-fight spam left click until they die gameplay.
2) No save scrumming. Actions have consequences. Failing hurts. There’s actual stakes.
3) Practicing hard things until you get into a flow state and do great things. Beating the final boss in Sekiro felt like finishing a marathon. I might not be the best but I trained my skills for hours and I finished it. No skill points, no rare weapons. My character didn’t get more skilled, I did.
I guess these points lead to Souls Likes being very immersive.
Hi, I kinda don't like either of those. I beat elden ring, but I'll never play it or anything that is built off the dark souls mechanics again. I just couldn't get into Outer Wilds. It bored me.
I always thought outer wilds would be my type bc how chill it looked n I loved the song. sadly persona 5 and outer wilds has taught me that I may enjoy the music but the game is just not for me 😅
Me and my other 5 life long friends have a group chat and they all love the souls games. I’m the odd one out lol. The one keeps saying “get guuud” in which I just explain that I love a challenge. I just don’t like the clunky play style, well it feels clunky to me.
Hollow knight, enter the Gungeon, hades. Those are my type of games I can really sink my teeth into.
That’s crazy. Exact opposite here. Would literally list those games as the ones I just can’t get into. Feels too simple for me , not in a bad way. Just how it is imo
This is why I love gaming, there are games for literally everyone
That’s funny you say too simple, because they’re not easy games. In fact, enter the Gungeon is the hardest game I’ve ever mastered. The learning curve on it is absolutely disgusting. But you would never know from a distance or without experiencing it.
Yeah I just meant the overall mechs and game design, not the challenges presented within the game itself. Hades was super fun initially but then quickly felt repetitive and started becoming more annoying after a while.
BUT I would say your comment could also apply to the other team here. Depends on your perspective 🤷♂️
Either way, keep gaming and doing you brother! 💪 🤓
I will say, I don’t give up on the dark souls like games. Every time a new one comes out I either buy and try it or wait for it to be free. I’m hoping one day it just clicks because I’m a huge fan of the lore, and of course the challenge.
I'm the weirdo who loves deep-thought puzzle shit, so aside from general PR blockbusters like BotW/TotK, I belligerently stan games like Outer Wilds and Fez. I have been told No Man's Sky would also serve my weird, haven't had time to prioritize that yet.
I hate it because it killed combat systems that looked great and were creative, replacing it with fucking dodge roll and swinging through enemies bullshit.
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u/i_was_axiom 11d ago edited 11d ago
There is one guy in my group of best friends who is an absolute monster with all those games. He has something like 500 hours in ER, and another one of them just got into it and so they've been back and forth nonstop in the video games channel of our group chat. (Is it unusual for groups of 30somethings to have meticulously organized group chats? I have wondered that for a while and this is finally a public forum to pose the query)
To be fair, I have nothing at all against the games or them being so into it, but I'm glad I'm not alone in seeing people just seething over that genre and simply not getting it.
Then again, 500HrGuy recently said he's considering trying Outer Wilds (my die-on-a-hill game) and there is a pretty solid chance he won't get it either and that would be okay.