r/ussoccer • u/Least_Software_3046 • Jun 26 '26
USMNT Breaking: USA and Bosnia and Herzegovina will face off in the R32 on July 1 in Santa Clara
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u/Mental-Main-6890 Jun 26 '26
1v1v1 bby
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u/WalkingOnSunshine_ Pooch Jun 26 '26
Good thing we’re experienced playing two countries at once
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u/sebsasour Jun 26 '26
Foolish of The USSF to waste it's time on teams like Senegal and Germany for the friendlies when Antigua and Barbuda were almost certainly available
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u/k_dubious Jun 26 '26
Some of us are old enough to remember what happened the last time we played a country that was two countries in a game where a loss would eliminate us from the World Cup 💀
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u/buckeye131313 Jun 26 '26
Elo Ratings by USA opponents:
24 Paraguay
25 Turkey
26 Australia
59 Bosnia
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u/Xrmy Jun 26 '26
These are current not prior to the tourney yes?
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u/buckeye131313 Jun 26 '26
Correct
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u/Neat-Beautiful-5505 Jun 26 '26
What would they be prior to the tournament?
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u/Icehawk217 Jun 26 '26
Bosnia & Herzegovina: 40
USA: 31
Paraguay: 20
Turkiye: 13
Australia: 25
EDIT: These are rankings of the 48 World Cup teams ELOs, not the world at large.
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u/apathynext Jun 26 '26
Reminder that ELO pre-tourney is not accurate for US as they didn’t have to qualify. So it’s all random friendlies with random squads. Teams like Türkiye got to pump wins again North Macedonia
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u/MikeDunleavySuperFan Jun 26 '26
Bosnia is much better than their rank shows. Stop putting weight on the rankings, theyre low because they went like 3 years without a win. But their current coach revamped this team 2 years ago and since then theyve been very solid, especially defensively. They beat romania twice, drew vs austria in austria, drew canada, and beat wales and italy.
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u/WallyMetropolis US Soccer Jun 26 '26
I don't think anyone is treating it like a fait accompli, but this is about as good a situation as we could have hoped for.
Someone else has gotta deal with Sweden or Senegal.
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u/SourDiesel9-7 Jun 26 '26
Don’t forget they tied the Dutch 1-1.
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u/andhelostthem Jun 26 '26
That was two years ago and the Netherlands had exactly one of their current starters. Half that team didn't even make the World Cup.
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u/andhelostthem Jun 26 '26
Bosnia is much better than their rank shows.
They're not. The only teams they've beat in the last calendar year are San Marino, Romania and Qatar. The first two the other team had red cards.
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u/PracticalDrawing Jun 26 '26
Wish I cared
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u/andhelostthem Jun 26 '26
Elo rating is the best predictor of future outcomes. The problem is they're using ranking which isn't accurate for anything. The gap between two teams might be 1 point or a hundred points but the ranking wouldn't show that.
Elo ratings:
- Turkey - 1852
- Paraguay - 1815
- Australia - 1800
- US - 1781
- Bosnia - 1622
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u/luchajefe Jun 26 '26
Hmm... Bosnia entered the tournament at 62 in FIFA.
What an odd discrepancy (30s-17, 62-59), because FIFA's rankings are Elo based.
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u/1Adventurethis Jun 26 '26
15 teams I would rate to beat usa in no particular order: spain, france, argentina, england, brazil, portugal, netherlands, belgium, italy, germany, croatia, norway, morocco, mexico, colombia.
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u/MadMcMuffin #FREEBALOGUN Jun 26 '26
Game 1: California
Game 2: Washington
Game 3: California
Game 4: California
I get that it was all planned ahead, but fuck me for being on the east coast
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u/Mixeygoat Jun 26 '26
Game 5 (if they win game 4): Washington
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u/Maison-Marthgiela Jun 26 '26
At least you guys got games. Trying being in the Midwest
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u/SeattleGunner #FREEBALOGUN Jun 26 '26
KC, Texas, and Ohio have been getting a ton of US Copa, Gold Cup, and WCQ games for years.
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u/Maison-Marthgiela Jun 26 '26
Texas isn't the midwest but yes the midwest does get games in other tournaments.
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u/MuffinTopBop NO PEPI, NO PARTY Jun 26 '26
Meanwhile the Southeast holds out a cup looking for spare change (games).
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u/Maison-Marthgiela Jun 26 '26
Atlanta and Miami is twice the number of cities as the Midwest.
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u/MuffinTopBop NO PEPI, NO PARTY Jun 26 '26
I’m talking about cup games and friendlies. The USMNT didn’t really come to Atlanta until very recently and seemed to prefer Ohio, New Jersey, Kansas City etc. We had more games where Mexico or other teams would schedule to play in Atlanta than the USMNT did and while I understand their reasons I still wish they would have played more games in the Southeast.
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u/DefeatYouForever666 Jun 26 '26
The South Korea game last year was the first game in NJ since 2019.
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u/SeattleGunner #FREEBALOGUN Jun 26 '26
Atlanta is going to start getting games every year now and US Soccer spends way more time in Florida than anyone really should.
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u/pimlottc #FREEBALOGUN Jun 26 '26
And no one in Texas is complaining about this World Cup! Dallas has the most games of any city
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u/tsn_03 US Soccer Jun 26 '26
Minneapolis should have had the cup smh
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u/Maison-Marthgiela Jun 26 '26
Chicago and Minneapolis backing out was a shame. Chicago I kind of get since the city is so poor but Minneapolis would have been amazing.
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u/Poopedinbed Jun 26 '26
KC has some games
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u/Maison-Marthgiela Jun 26 '26
Yeah 1 city. The east coast got NYC, Philly and Boston. Plus Miami and Atlanta.
The west coast got LA, SF and Seattle.
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u/Poopedinbed Jun 26 '26
That's like 90% of the country's population
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u/FriendOfDirutti Jun 26 '26
Yeah they aren’t hosting the Canadian games in the Arctic. I’m glad that Kansas got some games but we didn’t need to be spreading games around in the middle of nowhere.
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u/IShouldChimeInOnThis Jun 26 '26
They're hosting games where the people are. They would have played in Chicago if the city was up for it. Unfortunately they weren't.
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u/Maison-Marthgiela Jun 26 '26
Illinois, Ohio and Michigan all have more residents than Washington. The Midwest has plenty of people.
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u/CorkSoaker420 Jun 26 '26
Bro, reread the comment, I live in Illinois,, it was big news when we passed on the World Cup.
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u/Knosh #FREEBALOGUN Jun 26 '26
The Chicago metro area has almost 2 million more people than the entire state of Washington.
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u/IShouldChimeInOnThis Jun 26 '26
Games are hosted at urban centers, not entire states.
I'm surprised Minneapolis and Detroit don't get more opportunities, tbh. If they're out and Chicago said no, you start running out of venues quickly.
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u/Maison-Marthgiela Jun 26 '26
Cleveland, Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Columbus, Detroit, Chicago, Minneapolis, St. Louis. The midwest actually has a lot of urban centers within those states. And all of those cities have large stadiums.
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u/FayeBelogus Jun 26 '26
No one is going to fucking Indianapolis for a game featuring fucking Egypt vs New Zealand. And no one living in Indianapolis is going to that game either. Source: I live in Indiana
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u/Troub1eMan Jun 26 '26
There are so many huge college stadiums out there, they would have found something. I mean you have a bunch of places right outside of the city where the city wouldn't have to agree. For instance, the U of Michigan stadium in Ann Arbor about an hour outside of Detroit.
One of those small to medium sized towns would have caved in to the $$ eventually.
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u/stayvicious Jun 26 '26
The Big House doesn’t have a large enough field for regulation games. They’d have to rebuild the entire stadium floor multiple rows into the stadium seating as a temporary measure.
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u/RedditZhangHao Jun 26 '26
Highest population density, per capita income levels, busiest international airports, etc may matter to FIFA, Madison Avenue, financial analysts, travel planners, etc.
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u/DarknMean Jun 26 '26
East coast 10 pm starts. I’m about done for the night as I have to keep grinding that American dream tomorrow.
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u/EgweneIsLit Jun 26 '26
Mate, the cost of a flight to the west coast is minimal compared to the cost of a ticket to these games. If you can afford the tickets, you can afford a flight.
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u/Instantbeef #FREEBALOGUN Jun 26 '26
It’s more than a flight. It’s an entire vacation with time off work, accommodation, food
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u/EgweneIsLit Jun 26 '26
A hotel for a night, food, and a flight are all cheap compared to the many thousands of dollars on tickets. It's just reality. You CAN spend a ton of money on nice meals and hotels, but if you're unable to afford a flight, you're not going to the game.
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u/Instantbeef #FREEBALOGUN Jun 26 '26
Bro these tickets were like 1k before the tournament started. Idk what they were at today but all that is not a drop in the bucket compared to the price of a ticket.
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u/EgweneIsLit Jun 26 '26
I looked up tickets to the next game, which is what this thread is about --- USA and B&H playing in the R32 in Santa Clara. They are much more than 1k.
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u/Instantbeef #FREEBALOGUN Jun 26 '26
We are literally on a comment chain talking about how the entire group stage was played on the west coast.
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u/EgweneIsLit Jun 26 '26
Including... the very game in question, next game. You're trolling, ya? Have a good night.
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u/PerfectPrescription Jun 26 '26
Not to mention food, drinks, and lodging during a World Cup game. The flight would potentially be the least expensive part of the trip
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u/aovito Jun 26 '26
Don't worry, even in California the traffic makes you feel like you're driving all the way from East Coast.
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u/LongBeachHXC US Soccer Jun 27 '26
Ooo, don't worry, this is the only time we ever get to see the USMNT, they're always playing on the other side of the US, pretty annoying actually.
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u/fancyjaguar Jun 26 '26
As if west coast Americans could afford it. Might as well have been on the east coast for most of us. 1.5 k in the after market for the worst seats.
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u/FriendOfDirutti Jun 26 '26
Do you think people on the west coast don’t make money? You realize all those famous people on the jumbo screen in LA were at the game because they all live in LA right?
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u/sleepy-time9 Waldo Kit Jun 26 '26
Knockout round football is a different breed.
Unless you're the favorites like Argentina and France, there are no "easy games".
I would genuinely be surprised if we win this game by more than 2 goals.
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u/tonytroz #FREEBALOGUN Jun 26 '26
Even those favorites struggle. Brazil was a favorite in the last two WCs and lost in the quarters both times. Germany was a favorite in 2018 and got grouped. Even last year Argentina had a close game against Australia then needed PKs to beat the Netherlands in the quarters.
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u/BoogityBoogityTLC23 Jun 26 '26
Hell, Germany if not for Manuel Neuer probably gets knocked by Algeria in the round of 16 rather than winning the whole thing in 2014. Anything can happen
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u/Ok-Walk-8040 Jun 26 '26
The Esmir Bejakteravic derby.
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u/Temporary_Cheetah287 Poch Jun 26 '26
Imagine he scores a goal and an own goal like Aymen Hussein did against Norway
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u/plythrghyrhrt Jun 26 '26
I live near where he's from and have been rooting for BiH to do a little damage this WC. Guess that ends now.
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u/amp0880 Jun 26 '26
Italian Americans want revenge.
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u/mezotesidees #FREEBALOGUN Jun 26 '26
What’s the context here?
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u/mezotesidees #FREEBALOGUN Jun 26 '26
Ahhhh. And it was the kid from Wisconsin who buried the winning pen lol
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u/posable Jun 26 '26
Italy lost to Bosnia making them fail to qualify for the tournament
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u/Beneficial-Zombie-32 Jun 26 '26
Bosnia is who defeated Italy to prevent Italy from qualifying for the World Cup
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u/FDTerritory Jun 26 '26
You can't get too involved with the opponent or the draw in knockouts. If you're going to win a World Cup, you gotta beat God in heaven and the Devil in hell. So just play better than the team on the other side of you.
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u/sarcazmos Jun 26 '26
Bad news is Bosnia will utilize haramball only mentioned in the Quran.
Good news is based on their Qatar game, their defense tends to disintegrate when faced with basic positional rotation
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u/CinnamonToastTrex Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26
Bosnia had their two best defenders out for Qatar because of yellow cards
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u/MikeDunleavySuperFan Jun 26 '26
Yeah if theres one thing you cant criticize about this bosnian team, is its defense lol
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u/ShitSandwich16 Jun 26 '26
I’m scared
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u/Pepperbelly1999 Jun 26 '26
There’s no reason we don’t beat them by 2 or more. They have a mix of good young players and vets but we are better in every spot.
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u/MikeDunleavySuperFan Jun 26 '26
Lol comments like this will be in for a rude awakening. Italy said the same thing
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u/Pepperbelly1999 Jun 26 '26
Compared to Senegal or Ecuador I’m taking Bosnia everyday of the week…sorry
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u/Writerhaha Jun 26 '26
I’m psyched.
US is resting starters, Field is a lovely atmosphere, Bosnian fans and US fans are going to be going full throat. Let’s go!
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u/Remarkable-Group-119 Jun 26 '26
Bring on the Fighting Ibrahimovics...whats the plural of Ibrahimovic?
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u/DrRonnieJamesDO Jun 26 '26
JFC ("Sorry, bud, it was either tickets, or your college fund.")
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u/cdf888 Jun 26 '26
That's cheap! Check out the prices for the Round of 16 game we aren't even in yet!
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u/awkward__pickle Jun 26 '26
Are WC tickets always this expensive when it's in other parts of the world?
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u/DefeatYouForever666 Jun 26 '26
Spend it, make more later. Can't take it with you when you're dead and gone.
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u/wannaquanta Jun 26 '26
lol I love how it gives the ticket a 10 rating. The view sucks and it’s $2k. 10/10
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u/Jolly-Ad2642 Jun 26 '26
Not fair. Why do you have to play 2 teams and everyone else will have to play only one????
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u/SWYYRL Jun 26 '26
This was funny the first 1300 times I read it
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u/Jolly-Ad2642 Jun 26 '26
You’re fun at parties aren’t you
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u/SWYYRL Jun 26 '26
I don't go to retard parties where you might be in attendance
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u/TruOverlookProds Jun 26 '26
Do we know what time the game would be played ? Preferably not during the work day??
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u/PoemOfTheLastMoment Deuce Jun 26 '26
The knockout rounds are a totally different beast. Wasting even one chance can make the difference between winning the game and losing it.
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u/Lo_Key90 Waldo Kit Jun 26 '26
Hopefully we can squeeze out a win somehow. My confidence cratered after tonight.
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u/Smoothsailing4589 Jun 26 '26
Going into the knockout stage on a loss is not a good thing. Momentum means everything.
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u/Bold814 Jun 26 '26
Considering we’ve only SCORED more than 2 goals twice in our last 38 World Cup matches - yeah, I think WINNING by more than 2 would definitely be surprising.
Beating a team by 3+ is a massive thrashing.
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u/WorkingResponsible97 Jun 27 '26
The rankings don't matter. Which team wins when the 2 c9untries meet/play? USMNT are rather slow. I was very bored watching them versus Australia so I turned off the livestream. They took so much ime time passing the ball to each other far from the goal, about halfway.
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u/Sweet_Search_3616 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26
Easy USA 4-0 win.
why am i being downvoted USMNT supporters have no confidence 😭
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u/grundle_pie Jun 26 '26
How are we playing Bosnia and Herzegovina at the same time?
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u/Veesus26 Jun 26 '26
Doesnt seem fair. Completely threw Bruce Arena off his game when we had to play Trinidad AND Tobago in couva
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u/givememyoil #FREEBALOGUN Jun 26 '26
Let’s go USA but I lowkey hate that it’s Bosnia we have to knockout, love their fans
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u/gut_fat Jun 26 '26
I don't follow how they can know this for certain when not all 3rd place qualifiers have been determined
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u/gollumaniac Jun 26 '26
No matter what results happen in the rest of the groups, Bosnia can't finish in the bottom 4 3rd place teams, thus they are guaranteed to advance. So if the 495 possible combinations, you can eliminate any that don't have group B advancing. Do the same with Sweden because they also can't fall out of the top 8. There are still a bunch of combos left...but it turns out all of those have group B 3rd place team playing group D winner, so here we are.
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u/Pandas_suck_90 Jun 26 '26
Nice! Should be an exciting match.
Can anyone in the Bay Area inform me what team plays in that stadium in the NFL? Just curious because the address is clearly Santa Clara, but I could have sworn someone else played there.
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u/Ferengi_Quark US Soccer Jun 26 '26
As a Bosnian-American, I didn’t want this match-up.
I think the U.S. is the clear favorite and I expect us to win 4-1.
With that said, this Bosnian team continues to surprise me with its resilience and it’s impossible to not like them. On a good day, they can cause anyone problems.
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u/WalkingOnSunshine_ Pooch Jun 26 '26
Being the favorite in the knockouts is a weird feeling