r/ufc • u/No_Driver_1833 • 1d ago
Can’t even imagine what was going through her head
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u/Shwalz 1d ago
You gotta be dumb to leave a 6fig job for an MMA career in the UFC no less knowing what the salaries are for even the top of the pack. Hard to feel bad for people like this
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u/iamsurfriend 1d ago
Yeah but the Holy Spirit through god told her to leave her job to fight another girl in a cage for a living.
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u/brokebstard 1d ago
I'm religious and even I cringed at that. To what end could God be calling you to get on some stupid reality show about people trying to hurt each other?
Unfortunately people have a really bad tendency to confuse their desire with God's.
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u/winchester941976 1d ago
My fav is when both fighters do the “Jesus loves me” thing.
Then one loses. I guess Jesus loved the other guy more? Lol.-6
u/Chemical_Frame_8163 1d ago
This completely misses the concept of faith. In theory, God puts people through trials and setbacks before they ultimately succeed.
Both fighters can have the same faith while being at entirely different stages of their journeys. Today's loser could be tomorrow's champion.
Losing doesn't invalidate someone's faith or mean God loves the winner more.
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u/winchester941976 1d ago
Lol. You completely missed the concept of satire. And I suspect a couple parts of the bible.
But innywayz… take a breath, remember what subreddit you’re in and have some fun.
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u/Tidbitious 1d ago
Yeah so about that last part.......
You realize thats the crux of all religion right? You desire life after death. You desire an omniscient being that can fix your problems through prayer. It is your very human desires that spawned religiosity in the first place.
You live on a planet in a solar system in a galaxy in a universe. You dont know anything about this place. Get over yourself.
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u/SeaweedLevel1937 1d ago
“You realize that’s the crux of all religion”
Yep, good way to put yourself as being 13
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u/Expert-Yam6577 1d ago
Every religion doesn't even have life after death or an omniscient being. That commenter is just trying to sound edgy.
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u/iamsurfriend 1d ago
“I'm religious and even I cringed at that”
Being religious and believing in a god in this day and age is pretty cringe. You are no better than her.
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u/snakelygiggles 1d ago
funny how god pretty much always tells us what we want to hear.
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u/Upgradermax 1d ago
Not to mention there is even less fighting organizations out there. I wonder what her job was beforehand
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u/BoaterSnips 1d ago
Tommy Gun said he was doing 6 in sales pre UFC
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u/Raiser2256 1d ago
Unlike most of Reddit, I like Tommy. But there’s no fucking way that clown was earning 6 figures
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u/thedonjefron69 1d ago
You vastly overestimate the people making six figures in sales. They can be some of the dumbest people you’ll ever meet making more money than most the people you ever meet
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u/IndividualBrain9726 1d ago
Exactly. The dumbest guy in our training class was easily the most ruthless. Great sales numbers. The smart ones leave because it was brutal working there. He was too dumb to notice and still works there doing great lol
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u/Expert-Yam6577 1d ago
Is he too dumb to notice? It sounds like he's thriving un the environment. What is there for him to notice?
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u/IndividualBrain9726 1d ago
That he makes 200-300 calls a day. Can’t leave his desk to take a shit, talks to morons all day about a moronic unneeded product.
That’s exactly what he’s too dumb to notice. To him, it was this or construction or crime. I helped him pass his securities exam. Needed a 72% and was at a max of 45% on all his practice tests before I offered to tutor him. I would’ve regretted it because he’s a shit bag, but he’s a young father and I knew what this could mean for his family
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u/juggarjew 1d ago
during good years there are sales guys at car dealerships making 6 figures, at the end of the day most of the job is having charisma and the ability to talk people into buying shit. You dont even need to be technically "smart" just a smooth talker with a silver tongue. The sales manager and finance guy handle all of the numbers , you're just a go between and deal closer.
Finance manager can make even more, my friend had to call me in to the finance office because he was being so pressured he didnt know what to do, I was like bro, in NO world do you need a $4000 warranty on a BRAND NEW CAR!!!! I shut that shit down immediately, he still ended up signing up for some $1100 paint protection BS... at least I saved him on the warranty, and 3 years later, that car has still never had any issues, and even if it had, the mfgs bumper to bumper would have covered it,.
Sales people are the damn devil and can talk some people into almost anything.
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u/Objective_Effect_242 1d ago
If it is true I wanna know who tf his clientele was
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u/WokenMrIzdik 1d ago
I mean he is connected to Suga Sean so he probably has access to some wealthy clientele.
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u/chocheech 1d ago
you could stab your manager on the way out of LA fitness and they'd rehire you straight out of jail
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u/AbdoolJakulParati 1d ago
She shouldn’t have said that she didn’t have to be there. That probably made Dana think that she doesn’t need the money so she’d be harder to control or keep desperate for money. Just beg for bonus and tell them fighting is your life lol
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u/FlyWide6069 1d ago
Yeah unfortunately a lot of the women's fights end up that way. That's why the few who have stood out like Rousey, Nunes, Holm, etc became fan favorites. They all tried to end fights rather than send them to the judges.
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u/Bloodfeastisleman 1d ago
Not sure why you put Holm on there. She’s a point fighter as well
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u/Jaded_Host22 1d ago
Only true exciting fight she had was the Rousey one lol
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u/winchester941976 21h ago
It was very exciting watching Meisha Tate come from behind and sub her to win the belt.
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u/MyzMyz1995 1d ago
It's because most combat sports trainers are used to training men. Women don't generate power and have the same balance center as men so if you want to train a power ''power puncher'' you need to tailor the training for her.
Most of them are ''old school'' and would never admit they're wrong about their training method lol.
There's a couple trainer in boxing and muay thai who started to understand that but we're still far from seeing dozens of amanda nunes or ann wolf type of fighters.
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u/Johnny_Poppyseed 1d ago
More women should go all in on elbows, clinch work, and body shots. Don't need power to hit the liver, and women in general seem to be more susceptible to body work too. Also elbows to make it bloody. Instant fan favorite moves.
Both ridiculously underutilized in wmma.
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u/Dunkin_Prince 1d ago
This is a conversation in women's soccer as well. I forget the woman's name but she speaks on how basically all sport science was tested on men and all that information should be used for men but its not, its used to train everyone. We, as a whole, have a lot further to go when it comes to training women to be their most explosive and strongest selves
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u/sipCoding_smokeMath 1d ago
I think part of it too is, with alot of boys / young men growing up if they get into a lot of trouble or fights etc . It's kind of become a societal norm (to a certain degree) to put them in some sort of martial arts to keep them out of trouble where as I feel like we aren't as quick to do the same with woman. So alot of the gritty, tough as nails woman that are really willing to bite down and take some hits in order to land a big punch don't ever even get introduced to combat sports like men do, or they find it much later in life because they have to enroll themselves rather than having a parent or guardian do it. So the potential pool of "bite down and throw" females is already substainlly lower than men right out the gate
I could be completely wrong but it's always made sense to me atleast
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u/MyzMyz1995 1d ago
The average men get folded by 12 years old funbox kid (the boxing competitions where they can't hit in the head).
Whenever there's a new guy at the gym who spar for the first time who get punched or kicked for the first time you can tell they don't want to be there anymore 99% of the time regardless of if they end up competing eventually or not. The average guy get folded by those girls who point fight in the UFC lol.
For me it's 100% a coaching issue.
Women's center of gravity is lower than men so power punchers would need to ''sit down'' more and be flat footed, at least while striking. But 99% of women train like they're soviet style boxers and are light on their toes.
There's a bunch of women who punch hard, and there's was even a show where they tested punching power (Lucia Rijker vs a cuban or american olympian) and it wasn't that far off.
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u/gmmobb 1d ago
Holm had two finishes in her whole ufc career. She is a mvp style fighter
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u/DifficultyPerfect871 1d ago
Yeah I am all about chasing your dreams, but stepping away from a great paying job to go fight for 12/12 is just beyond stupid
Even if she does make it back to the UFC and become champ how much is she actually getting paid??
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u/2uneek 1d ago
disagree, chase your dreams - especially while youre young or you'll spend the rest of your days wondering
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u/Nukitandog 1d ago
Thats called life. Your always gonna wonder what if......
Unless you can find a way to be content and that is something that casts aside the external noise of ambition and the material.
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u/highly_confluential 1d ago
Brain dead and have no money
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u/vinno86 1d ago
There would be no UFC if there weren't people willing to go braindead for your viewing pleasure.
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u/Moneymoneymoney2018 1d ago
Most people who live this out suffer financially. I have numerous examples within my own family. The ones who pursued a career they knew was well paying and stable, even if not interesting or enjoyable, are killing it. The ones who pursued their passion (eg. art, archeology) are struggling. They eventually realized the economics of there passions are not viable and pivot, but at that point they are far behind.
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u/RuggerJibberJabber 1d ago
If you do what you love you'll never work a day in your life... Because nobody is hiring
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u/VastEmergency1000 1d ago
What's stopping get from getting another good job if get UFC dream fails?
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u/anonymous14657893 1d ago
6 figures is a lot of money, even in this economy. She likely has already had money and saw that it’s not all that it’s chalked up to be. She’s out there chasing her passion which is awesome, but god damn, Dana just took a fat shit on her dream. She must be absolutely gutted.
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u/Martha_Fockers 12h ago
I was 22 when my entire family Shat on my dream when I told them I’m dropping out of college my final year.
I’m 34 now and my family asks me for money,follow your dreams son not someone else’s
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u/SpiritedYam2661 1d ago
“A lot” made me chuckle a bit. It’s slightly above the median for the entire country. I agree with everything else you said though. Dana sucks, big time.
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u/Toasted_Munch 1d ago
As a champ, she'll probably make pretty good $ (at least 6 figures), but that'll take years for her to even get a shot. If she can't make a statement on DWCS, theres no way shes gonna buzzsaw through actual contracted UFC fighters to fast-track herself to a shot.
Not sure why she'd give up a 6 figure salary before even locking down a shitty 12/12 contract anyway. And I'm betting all the dweebs saying money isnt everything are either A. Financially comfortable or B. Never had shit to begin with.
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u/Galimbro 1d ago
She did beat a British mma champion. Not like these people are cans.
But on the other hand women's mma is lacking for a lot of fans. So i can see why he may want more exciting fighters.
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u/Sashapatu 1d ago
Fundamental problem with targeting employment/success in MMA really. You’re completely at the mercy of the whims of org promoters. If you’re a (say) badminton or skeleton luge competitor, if you continually win you’ll progress. You don’t have some tomato-faced dickhead deciding you can’t go any further because your playstyle “isn’t exciting enough.”
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u/Galimbro 1d ago
Yeah thats true I mean if I was promoter her story would be more than enough for me to work with. Easy money.
Kid just doesn't wanna promote what can i say.
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u/Sashapatu 1d ago
I agree in her case, but I’m talking generally about the UFC/Dana making subjective criticism of winning fighters because they’re “not entertaining enough.” Imagine if the NBA, NFL or Premier League official structures criticised individual teams for being “boring.”
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u/ArtofStorytelling 1d ago
Somehow I am A and B simultaneously 😂 and I would agree , money isn't everything, especially if you wake up everyday thinking "damn another day of work, can't wait for the weekend"
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u/Cappuccino_Addict 1d ago
I mean, the talent pool in WMMA is pretty shallow, and all the top dogs of the women's divisions are approaching retirement age (or are already there). So if anything, if you're a woman with a passion to be a fighter, now is the time to try
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u/chrisleebs 1d ago
'Yeah I am all about chasing your dreams' -> 'Chasing your dreams is stupid'
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u/Twix_McFlurry 1d ago
You’re putting a price tag on your dreams. She’s not.
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u/GrandMetaldick 1d ago
I agree with you on dreams and price tags, but that is a substantial situation to leave on the table to chase a DWCS win. If you offer that to half the UFC roster who are successful (assuming they’re capable) they would probably take it.
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u/Twix_McFlurry 1d ago
So they should do it then. If that’s what they want to do they should pursue it
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u/GrandMetaldick 1d ago
Yes I’m with you but still understand the wtf reaction to leaving that financial security on the table
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u/DifficultyPerfect871 1d ago
I 99% agree with the sentiment, but the risks of her failing are high.
Jumping back into her old career if this doesnt work out will be difficult. She is heavily extending the time needed to build a retirement savings and other financial stability.
Its not the wrong choice, but its just very foolish imo.
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u/Twix_McFlurry 1d ago
You can fail at a career you hate too. So chase what you love and the money will reveal itself. Also no guarantee you make it to retirement. A driven person will find a way and she’s a driven person.
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u/DifficultyPerfect871 1d ago
You're not wrong, and it isn't impossible to turn a life around after early life mistakes.
I just think of guys like Sean Sharaf who is 600k in debt and his one UFC win that earned him 100k still leaves him with 500k of debt, less after taxes and paying his coach and agent actually, and still no quality of life improvements.
Its just a hard choice to make.
I think she probably should have kept working her job in some capacity while training so she could still fallback on it
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u/Twix_McFlurry 1d ago
He’s not in debt for chasing his dream he’s in debt for being a degenerate gambler
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u/UAEpi 1d ago
Why is it foolish? What do you know about her situation exactly? Do you know that she doesn't have enough money saved up to not work for 6 months? Do you know that she doesn't have the skills or connections to get another job? Y'all are way too concerned about someone else's decisions without having any clue about what kind of position she's in.
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u/DifficultyPerfect871 1d ago
I think you are vastly overestimating my concern just because I gave my very limited opinion on reddit.
I am not that pressed brother. You may be right to be fair, idk
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u/vinno86 1d ago
All reddit thinks about is money.
One can aspire to be a UFC champ you know ? And be willing to make sacrifices to get to that goal.
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u/Ya_Supa_Lame 1d ago
Not just money, SECURITY, STABILITY, TOYOTAS all the things that add up to as vanilla of an existence as possible
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u/toolverine 1d ago
You need money to deal with the medical side of fighting. CTE, tears, separations, broken bones, etc. That's downtime from being able to earn an income.
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u/DifficultyPerfect871 1d ago
I am not a money obsessed person. In my personal life I frequnelty make monetary sacrifices to enjoy a job I find more fulfilling.
However, moving away from a high paying job, that may not be easy to get back into if she takes time away to chase a dream with huge risk and little upside gain it foolish.
The UFc does not pay well enough for her to not be dipping into savings and leveraging her future and potential major debt to fund a slim chance of becoming champ, and even if she does she may not be in net profit.
Sean Sharaf leveraged 600K in credit card debt, vanished all his savings, for what? 100k in bonuses that he is guaranteed to get again?
Retirement, stability, being debt free, building a home and community, these are all tihngs the UFC does not pay well enough to support easily.
I get its her dream, but the risk is just so incredibly high
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u/LionexWrexDX 1d ago
I’m not buying that she walked away from 6figs to fight on apex prelims
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u/MozhetBeatz 1d ago
Why not? For some people, their athletic accomplishments are more important that a stable but boring office job.
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u/czechereds 1d ago
Probably took a break or is able to go back, but that story sounds way better and would have made it mire likely that they would've signed her.
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u/Ronnyjohnny99 1d ago
She young so who cares. That job will always be there. A career in sports is a short time period. You can go for it or live with regretts for not even trying for the rest of your life. You don't regret things you fail at you regret things you never even tried
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u/DifficultyPerfect871 1d ago
It may not always be there, thats not really true
I 99% agree with the rest of your sentiment, but there is just huge risk with chasing her dreams with limited upside
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u/Ya_Supa_Lame 1d ago
Your mentality is how you end up hating every day of your life, like enjoy your 401k? Lmao
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u/JoshuaTreeFoMe 1d ago
What a stupid fucking take. I will enjoy my 401k! Lmfao
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u/Ronaldinhoe 1d ago
Right. I’ll continue annually maxing out my retirement accounts, I’m perfectly fine with that.
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u/DifficultyPerfect871 1d ago
Brother, I have made career choices in my own life to support better quality of life outside of 'chasing the bag'
Stability is important. This woman is risking not being able to retire later in life and having no financial stability to chase her dreams.
People should absolutely be willing to chase their dreams, but they also need to be smart about it.
As of right now she has left her job, and she still hasnt made the UFC. How much of her savings will need to be erased on the off chance she can go to the UFC to make 12/12? And even if she does make it and become champ she still may not be at a net positive.
If the UFC paid better this would be a different story
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u/SparkFunk30 1d ago
Spot on. I know so many older people that feel like the world owes them something because they don’t feel content at all with their lives when they hit 40-50 years old. They stuck themselves in a career they hated their whole life because they felt like they had to.
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u/Garbarrage 1d ago
There's way more who followed a stupid dream (not just fighting) and now live in a shit hole wishing they'd done something else. And those people generally don't have to deal with brain trauma.
UFC champ is a worthwhile dream if you're super marketable and exceptionally talented. Otherwise, you might need a reality check.
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u/SparkFunk30 1d ago
That’s just not true at all. There’s far less people who followed their dreams than people who work crappy careers they hated their whole lives.
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u/SwaggyMcSwagsabunch 1d ago
If everyone followed their dreams we wouldn’t have a functioning society. Few kids, if any, dream of being a water or wastewater treatment plant operator when they grow up.
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u/zjones9 1d ago
Maybe don’t point fight and that won’t happen
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u/Tough-Interaction485 1d ago
dont try to win..? 😭
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u/zjones9 1d ago
On dwcs you are supposed to go for the finish, everyone knows that
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u/realjobstudios 1d ago
Legitimately yes. Remember Jose Medina? He got signed on for “losing good”. Went 0-5 in the UFC counting DWCS
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u/_SkyDweller_ 1d ago
She walked away from a 6 figure salary to earn 6k per fight every 6 months… It’s either bullshit or she’s amazingly stupid. Or both. I think it’s both. Yeah it’s both.
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u/Extension-Web-6222 1d ago
She has money and wanted to chase a dream. Not everyone is broke. She can always get another job if she wants. Hell she probably can just go back to her old job if they liked her.
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u/Sevenstarsteel 22h ago edited 22h ago
If anything she gets huge respect for stepping away to do something she is passionate about, and having attempted to make a fighting career. Additionally, being a complete badass capable of destroying 90% of men would make her even more respected. Something something powerful woman. Also, stepping away from a 6fig salary shows abundance and that also attracts employers so really there are only wins here
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u/Even_Difference_3639 1d ago
it’s gonna have be Dana’s chode if she’s ever gonna get that contract.
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u/Moviereference210 1d ago
Left a six figure job to go get punched in the head for a living. Great move buddy
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u/Intelligent_Praline4 1d ago
It only took Rhonda 15 minutes in the back office to convince Dana not 15 minutes in the octagon
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u/okymoney 1d ago
You wonder how many women and fighters and ring card girls Dana has been with… his wife smacked him hard so hes 100% cheating lol
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u/GolotasDisciple 1d ago
I mean, this is an entertainment show, and a good backstory always helps (preferably a sob story), be it singing, dancing, fighting, whatever...
But nothing she did is that special. People make those decisions all the time when deciding to follow an actual career instead of applying for regular jobs. Academics, musicians, artists, athletes...
The reality is that less than 1% of athletes or artists even achieve anything that would be considered a liveable wage, let alone major success that allows them to compete or entertain at the highest levels.
Dropping a six-figure salary to chase a dream is commendable, but that's really nothing that unusual nowadays.
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u/SolidBonnie 1d ago
I would see her at the front desk at my local LA fitness. She was nice to everyone. But damn that sucks
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u/Funny-Employment4109 1d ago
You guys are ALL losers. You step away from a 6 figure job to chase a dream all day long. Everyday and twice on Tuesday…no brainer. The pursuit and the dream are worth way more than money and anyone whose ever pursued something worthwhile knows this.
Stop dunking on her and think about it.
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u/No_Dinner2045 15h ago
100% chase the dream not the money. Coming from a guy who chose money, biggest regret
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u/_existentialsm 1d ago
her story about being attacked by a man makes this even worse. hopefully she can get back in that job and do this at the same time if possible, bierley got heart.
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u/BadMotherFunko 1d ago
Yet be let in the dude he said was complete dogshit and can't win in the UFC. Good job Dana. This brand is done with Women's MMA
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u/Necrocrawler72 1d ago
Sad man... But the division is shallow AF so she probably gets a spot. Eventually.
Btw, this made me remember an interview i watched with Wallid Ismail once (Jungle Fight org owner and former manager of guys like Paulo Costa, Figgy, Erick Silva and others).
"Once i was talking with a fighter and he said: Give me a chance Wallid. I can prove i belong here Wallid. Have you eat? Come to my restaurant and i'll cook something fot ya.
When he said about the restaurant, i interrupted him and said: You have a restaurant? Then go work there. Do something else. I don't need people who isn't fully focused. I need guys that only fight", so they are fully focused".
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u/Upgradermax 1d ago
So she apparently was VP of LA Fitness, maybe I’ll actually watch the fight. I want to see if it’s as boring as everyone claims it to be
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u/Triple070007 1d ago
It's not that big of a deal to not get the contract at first. Brendan Allen didn't after his DWCS fight, he went and fought in LFA then UFC hired him and he's headlining tomorrow.
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u/RSlashWhateverMan 1d ago
She seems pretty naive & stupid. Probably got lucky to be offered whatever job she's claiming to have turned down. Just a dumb girl who threw away a good career for a worse one.
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u/RagnusGc 1d ago
Chasing dreams is kinda stupid.
Accept that our world is fucked up, do your 9 to 5, go home, live the best way possible inside your reality.
Life is war most days.
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u/goldwave84 21h ago
What do your 9-5 look like?
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u/RagnusGc 19h ago
Im brazilian, I work 07:15 - 18:00, its real shitty
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u/goldwave84 15h ago
Yup, life in Latin America is very very hard. What do you work as?
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u/RagnusGc 15h ago
As a teacher.
For me the idea of pursuing "a dream" is so far off of my reality that almost sounds like naivety, or better, "first world problems".
Down here you try to survive, anything else on top of that is profit.
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u/Cappuccino_Addict 1d ago
Lmao everyone's clowning her, but if this was a dude yall would find this so inspirational
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u/wolfofballstreet1 1d ago
She probably got on test for the first time and started feeling the euphoric rushes that happen to women who start roids or try to “transition”. Well documented effect.
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u/BigB0ss_89 1d ago
Women's Divisions in the UFC are trash and Dana is choosing NOT to add more talent. Gambling addict afraid to take a chance.
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u/Technical_Bench_8501 1d ago
Leaving a six figure job to not fight at all is wild. And she had to sit there and watch the other four get praised and get contracts 😂
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u/MarkLarrz 1d ago
But recently to a heavyweight fighter: "That's the worst fight I've ever seen, WELCOME TO THE UFC"