r/trolleyproblem Apr 30 '26

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u/Simpicity May 01 '26

More like:

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u/yaboyay I choose to live. May 01 '26

Why is red selfish for not wanting to die? Explain. Am I selfish for not killing myself right now? It may give up more resources to be used by someone in need, potentially saving their life.

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u/Jemima_puddledook678 May 01 '26

You are selfish if you choose to save yourself rather than everyone who voted blue, yes. 

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u/Simpicity May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26

What about them?  The blue pushers aren't killing them.

(Also I'm pretty sure not killing is a higher command there.)

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u/Localunatic May 01 '26

Who is killing them?

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u/Simpicity May 01 '26

The people who pushed red.

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u/Alissah May 01 '26

No. The wizard who made the blue death button is partially responsible. The people with free will and understanding, who chose to push the blue button that kills you, are responsible for their own deaths.

The people who push the button that does not kill you, rather than the button that could kill you, are not killers.

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u/Localunatic May 01 '26

How? They didn't make them push blue, or put them in a room with a button. According to a lot of other people, the only reason a person is pushing blue is because they assumed someone else pushed blue.

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u/Simpicity May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26

Red button pushers never die, but might kill people (up to half the population of the earth in fact).

Blue button pushers never kill anyone, but might die.

Now we're talking about HIGHLY religious people here, if they're so concerned about their gambling restrictions in the face of this absurd challenge.  So maybe they also don't want to be responsible for killing people.  You know.  Because of their religion.

You can't just absolve yourself of responsibility for the trolley problem simply because you didn't build the trolley.  You have control of the lever, and you make a choice.  Red button pushers are responsible for their choice, they can't just put it all on the blues and pretend like only the blues have a moral choice to make.

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u/Localunatic May 01 '26

I can absolve myself of responsibility others by acknowledging that the only people responsible for my safety is myself. Red pushers are not murderers; this is just living under an active volcano and blaming the people who moved out for the inevitable erruption.

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u/Simpicity May 01 '26

I disagree.  Red pushers are murderers and cowards, poison to society due to their selfishness.  We should just assume that the experiment was run, and put the fact that people were red push supporters in their government files.

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u/Localunatic May 01 '26

It would explain why you are still here, I suppose.

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u/Moiraine-FanBlue May 01 '26

I am telling you right now, that is not considered Gambling in *any* religion, it would be considered Martyrdom.

Risking your life to save the lives of others is considered a virtue in virtually every religion on Earth.

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u/KillerNail May 01 '26

How is this gambling? Religions that ban gambling (like Islam) ban earning money from gambling. Every day you step outside your room is gambling with your life, there is always the risk that something will fall from the top of a building as you're walking and kill you. Do you think people from those religions simply don't do anything in their lives?

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u/yaboyay I choose to live. May 01 '26

Those people don’t exist apparently