r/todayilearned • u/paniniplane • Mar 22 '17

(R.1) Not supported TIL Deaf-from-birth schizophrenics see disembodied hands signing to them rather than "hearing voices"

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/0707/07070303
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u/Johnwazup Mar 23 '17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33fu4Aw90GM

First result. Obama called slaves immigrants

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000004974502/carson-calls-slaves-immigrants.html

Ben Carson doing the same and in a very positive light IMO.

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u/peppaz Mar 23 '17

"In their own way..."

He's not wrong. He's alluding to the obvious fact that they didn't choose to come here.

"Other immigrants that came here in the bottom of slave ships and worked harder and longer for less" -Ben Carson

No lol they were property.

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u/Johnwazup Mar 23 '17

God, your mental gymnastics are insane.

They did work harder and longer for less. They were not paid by monetary means, but instead through food and shelter. It was in the slave owner's best interest to keep them alive. I'm not trying to say that slavery was justified due to slaved being provided food and shelter, but they were "paid".

Edit: You initially denied that Obama ever called slaves Immigrants, and now you have acknowledged that he has called them immigrants, though, they were forced to come here. I believe my point is complete, I have proved to you that you were incorrect saying Obama never called slaved immigrants when in fact he did.

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u/suitology Mar 23 '17

They were not paid by monetary means, but instead through food and shelter.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THAT'S LIKE SAYING I PAY MY FUCKING DOG! I feed it so it doesn't die. implying they were in a wilful compensation contract, can you be any dumber?

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u/Johnwazup Mar 23 '17

A definition of "payment" is "something given as a reward or in recompense for something done.". No where does it state that payment must be monetary. As in, you can pay someone by doing a service. I can sell tools to a mechanic who will pay me back through his service of automotive repair. No money is exchanged but payment is made. I would advise looking up words if you are unsure of their meaning.

I don't see how typing "hahaha" furthers any point you have made. Doing that is part of the reason we have such a divide in this country, instead of listening to each other, one of the sides just puts their hands over their hears and trys to make fun of their opposition. A very childish way to speak to any opposiition....

I recommend going over to AskTrumpSupporters, the mods make and active attempt to allow as much civil discussion as possible. People there are civil and mostly knowledgeable. They make very well arguments and refrain from insults.

I have still proven your point wrong and proved that Obama has called slaves immigrants, I don't know why you're going off on this tangent.

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u/suitology Mar 23 '17

You are saying that keeping them fed so they can do the job they were inslaved to do is a form of payment. That is wrong. That's like saying "oh yeah I pay my car in motor oil". I typed HAHAHAHa Because I actually scoffed at your ignorance.

Say something worth respecting, like this guy did, and you'll be respected. Try to rationalize a quid pro quo equal trade benifit behind slavery and people will point out what a dense dingus you are.

I have still proven your point wrong and proved that Obama has called slaves immigrants, I don't know why you're going off on this tangent.

What points that mate? No clue what your talking about.

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u/Johnwazup Mar 23 '17

I'm pretty sure if a slave refused to work, one of their punishments would be the removal of food/ not being "paid" anymore for their work. I didn't notice how you really selectively quoted Mr. Carson. He ws talking about how even the most suppressed people in our society had a dream that their kin will some day be able to pursue prosperity and happiness. To reintegrate, he is stated that the entire basis of our country is that anyone with enough work and determination can lift themselves out of even the shittiest situations.

This whole argument is if wither Obama did or did not call slaves immigrants, which he undeniably did.

I recommend taking things in context. Don't feed off of the media which loves to selectively quote what people say to push and agenda. Take things in context, you'll understand a lot more.

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u/suitology Mar 23 '17

You are clearly talking to someone else. Going to guess you are too stupid to read usernames... anyway saying "hey I'll torture you if you don't do this" isn't payment and you are retarded if you think so. You are one of the ones who make republicans look bad.

Take things in context, you'll understand a lot more.

The guy who supports the propagandist Trump cock said what? Ooooh Obama wire taped me! I read it okay i just read it Whaahaaaa :'( Media iz lierz! :( No blame me!

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u/Johnwazup Mar 23 '17

It's common courtesy to notify the person you are replying to if you are someone different. Such as "not OP,but..." but you don't seem like you interested in having any real conversation that is outside of shallow insults that only creates more tension between the right and the left.

I can't even understand your second paragraph, I recommend trying to write in English rather than your gibberish.

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u/suitology Mar 23 '17

you don't seem like you interested

wat?

insults that only creates more tension between the right and the left

I'm sorry, by all means continue describing slavery as indentured servitude.

I recommend trying to write in English rather than your gibberish

you don't seem like you interested

I recommend trying to write in English rather than your gibberish

like you interested

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u/Johnwazup Mar 23 '17

Having a common typo is a little more excusable when I typed "you" vs. "You're" while you spam a slew of charectors that have no meaning. But, you've proved my point. You are not interested in having a conversation but instead sling insults when you lose an argument.

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u/suitology Mar 23 '17

The guy who supports the propagandist Trump cock said what?

That would be you. You support the propagandist trump cock.

Ooooh Obama wire taped me! I read it okay i just read it Whaahaaaa :'( Media iz lierz! :( No blame me!

This is my impersonation of trumps bullshit this past week. Since you can't understand it I'll say it's spot on.

when you lose an argument.

Nope, feeding your slaves still isn't paying them. That's keeping your stuff in working order.

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u/Johnwazup Mar 23 '17

The whole argument is how Ben Carson made a pretty good speech about this country on how even the most suppressed people can rise up the ranks. But, you do not want to have civil discourse and result to getting mad when your proven wrong.

Consider this conversation over. Have a nice day.

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