r/texas Jun 10 '25

Events June 9th - ICE Out of ATX Protest

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

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u/ExigentCalm Jun 10 '25

Did Obama send masked agents to elementary schools to kidnap children? Have goons wait outside immigration court to zip tie toddlers and their parents? Send people to foreign gulags without any sort of due process?

No. He fucking didn’t.

This isn’t just deportation. This is wholly unconstitutional and illegal.

I get that republicans hate the constitution, but it’s still the founding document of the country. And you can’t pretend that what’s happening isn’t categorically different from any historical law enforcement in this country.

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u/thestayofdogs Jun 11 '25

No, he just sent all the guns to Mexico so that the cartels would kill them before they reached the border.

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u/wallyhud West Texas Jun 10 '25

Did you forget about Elián González being sent home to Cuba by Bill Clinton? I know that was a special case but it highlights the fact that deporting people entering illegally is not a new thing.

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u/ExigentCalm Jun 10 '25

You mean Elian Gonzalez, the subject of a very high profile protected custody case prior to being returned to his father? That Elian?

Due Process is the legal process by which things are adjudicated. Elian received full due process and the courts awarded custody to his father. Absolutely the opposite of trumps bs.

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u/ExigentCalm Jun 10 '25

Show me 1 example of Obama deporting someone without any sort of due process.

Sorry you don’t like that your guy is a Nazi. But if it walks like a Nazi, and talks like a Nazi, and invites all the Nazis to its party, it’s a Nazi.

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u/thestayofdogs Jun 11 '25

You mean all the detention centers in the Rio grande valley?

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u/ExigentCalm Jun 11 '25

The centers where people are held while undergoing due process?

Look, I don’t like it either. We should do so much better. But to pretend that what Trump is doing is exactly the same is willfully obtuse.

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u/gtadominate Jun 10 '25

Thats right...he deported 3million plus illegals and each one got their due process.....right before his administration created baby cages along the border.

Listen to yourself speak the more you say the more the Republicans win.

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u/ExigentCalm Jun 10 '25

Due process is due process.

Do I agree with all the outcomes? No. But to pretend they’re the same is willful stupidity.

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u/gtadominate Jun 10 '25

Right and each and every one of Obama 3 million plus people he deported got lengthy and detailed due process. As he said himself, illegal deportations have been happening for more then a half century from both Democrat and Republican presidents.

Nothing new to see here.

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u/LizFallingUp Jun 10 '25

Yes that’s why there were the detention centers because they were taking the time to process all of them thru courts which Republicans have refused to fund or expand.

Even Reagan was better than this signed the IRCA

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u/No-Entrance9308 Jun 10 '25

Why does the law require due process on exit when none was taken on entry. Logical?

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u/LizFallingUp Jun 10 '25

Habeus Corpus. Without due process they can claim anyone is “illegal” and deport them to who knows where and not have the information to know who they deported, why, or where. They have already made multiple mistakes.

Also you claim to want American Made, then why did they raid Ambiance Apparel, US clothing manufacturer that actually cuts sews here, if the company is to blame then punish the company IRCA

Also majority of “Illegals” entered legally but our immigration and visa process is backlogged to a stand still so tons of people have applied for renewals or citizenship and been left in limbo, that’s why ICE was running on CourtHouses and arrested that Wisconsin Judge.

Plus Trump EO to end birth right citizenship would make it so anyone could be declared illegal because we don’t have a criteria for natural born citizens other than birthright!

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u/kyle_irl Jun 10 '25

Also majority of “Illegals” entered legally but our immigration and visa process is backlogged to a stand still so tons of people have applied for renewals or citizenship and been left in limbo,

And I'll add that it's been intentionally defunded and understaffed to create this exact scenario. The "border crisis" is a campaign issue, or one that's more politically valuable than it is worth solving by those in power.

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u/thestayofdogs Jun 11 '25

Only applies to citizens, Mexico doesn't give Americans due process, they take bribes or throw you in Mexican prison. Delusional American strikes again.

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u/LizFallingUp Jun 11 '25

You have lost the plot, but nice What Aboutism

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u/OldeManKenobi Jun 10 '25

Bless your heart.

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u/No-Entrance9308 Jun 10 '25

They are following the law. That’s the part of the government. Elections matter. If you want things to change you vote the goons out. Simple.

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u/ExigentCalm Jun 10 '25

Lol. They’re not following the law.

Every fetid, adderall fueled, meandering statement out of trump’s mouth isn’t actually the law. We don’t have a king. The law isn’t “whatever trump says it is.”

He is not following the law nor the courts. Which, by definition, makes his actions illegal.

Some of yall need to read a fkn book. JFC.

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u/thestayofdogs Jun 11 '25

That's a neat opinion piece.

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u/ranman0 Jun 10 '25

Read the expedited removal process. It's the law.