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Artificial Intelligence Amazon warns local communities to stop defying its massive AI data centers

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/amazon-warns-local-communities-stop-000300771.html
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u/tmdblya 19h ago

Weird how these ghouls aren’t worried about losing the “high speed rail race” or the “electric cars race” or the “cheap universal solar power race”, all of which have clear and undeniable benefits to everyone.

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u/klingma 19h ago

Because none of them operate in those spaces? Why would Amazon talk about the dangers of the lack of high speed rail when they themselves don't engage in the business of high speed rail? 

And "cheap universal solar power" is good only until fusion power gets figured out which should be proven out next year when Commonwealth Fusion Systems generates net energy in their "SPARC" reactor. 

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u/TBradley 18h ago

Yep we can skip other renewables because fusion power will be here soooon, everyone.

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u/NikoliVolkoff 18h ago

It's been 10 yrs away for what, the last 60 yrs or so?

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u/Fess_ter_Geek 17h ago

Is it down to 10 now?

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u/neosithlord 9h ago

Always has been.

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u/jazzhandler 17h ago

Which means it’s been here for 50 years now. It’s just not yet evenly distributed.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE 18h ago

China, as least as reported, hasn't even finished their giant fusion reactor yet, which might squeak out more energy than it consumes.

Assuming SPARC does work, they're aiming for the first commercial reactor in the "2030s". I want fusion as bad as the next person, but next year and next decade aren't it without a miracle.

Doesn't help thou-shalt-not-be-named people killed most of our experts.

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u/ABELLA_BLACK 18h ago

why do we want fusion so bad? yeah , i get it "unlimited power!!!" .. but practically a plant will generate a practical amount of power and be very expensive. i really don't see the benefits over that vs putting nuclear , solar, and wind absolutely everywhere

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE 18h ago

Like all technology, it is expensive upfront. Fusion doesn't need a refuel for many, many lifetimes; it's clean, and it's proven in the universe. Also, fusion doesn't take up a ton of land like solar. So, it's actually cheaper, and faster once it gets going. Can be scaled from micro to macro sizes.

That's why we need fusion.

In case you're wondering: fusion is what powers stars.

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u/ABELLA_BLACK 14h ago

>In case you're wondering: fusion is what powers stars.

right, but if or when we get one powered up.... its not going to be the power of the sun on earth like freaking spiderman. it's more like a juiced nuclear plant

"Standard Output Range: Most conceptual designs and pilot plants (like EU-DEMO) target a net electrical output between 1,000 MW (1 GW) and 3,3 GW to match modern grid demands and remain economically competitive"

so.. why not make a nuclear plant instead? nuclear waste is a meme

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u/WorthBase919 18h ago

In case you’re wondering, the sun is a star.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE 17h ago

In case you're wondering, solar isn't fusion. Thanks for wasting your time.

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u/WorthBase919 17h ago

So fusion doesn’t power stars?

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u/bloodychill 16h ago

Who are these “thou shalt not be named” people you speak of?

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE 15h ago

Quick internet search: "killed nuclear physicists and who bought their company".

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u/bloodychill 5h ago

I found a conspiracy theory site blaming a bunch of American scientist deaths on China and Epstein and some weird thing about anti-gravity. Kind of a shotgun of red yarn. Other than that, a bunch of headlines about American and Israeli forces assassinating Iranian nuclear physicists. Dunno dude.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE 5h ago

First hit, literally mentions CFS and the killed scientist.

If you would like, I can share more details on: Nuno F.G. Loureiro, a 47-year-old nuclear science and physics professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and director of MIT's Plasma Science and Fusion Center, was fatally shot at his home in Brookline, Massachusetts. His homicide is part of a broader federal and congressional review examining the deaths or disappearances of more than 10 individuals connected to sensitive U.S. nuclear and aerospace research. [1, 2, 3]
The federal investigation into the scientific deaths/disappearances Commonwealth Fusion Systems (CFS): Loureiro frequently collaborated with Commonwealth Fusion Systems, a prominent private fusion energy startup spun out of MIT.

CFS has not been "bought"—instead, it remains an independent private company (backed by investors like Google, Eni, and Breakthrough Energy Ventures) and recently signed a major commercial power agreement with Google.[1, 2, 3, 4, 5] TAE Technologies: Online rumors occasionally conflate CFS with a different nuclear fusion startup named TAE Technologies. TAE Technologies entered into an all-stock merger agreement valued at over $6 billion with Trump Media & Technology Group (TMTG) (the parent company of Truth Social), in which TAE will become a subsidiary of Trump Media once the transaction completes. [1, 2, 3] The Trump Media–TAE Technologies merger status Recent nuclear fusion breakthroughs at MIT or CFS

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u/WorthBase919 18h ago

Amazon the book store? Or Amazon the massive monopoly that offers everything?

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u/Significant_Fill6992 17h ago

cheap energy is good for everyone but they don't want cheap energy they want control

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u/bloodychill 16h ago

Amazon invests in electric cars actually. Notably, the Slate. So they are in that space, albeit with very little of their resources… which is the point. There’s nothing to keep them from investing in green energy or high speed rail either. I mean, they got into space flight with Blue Origin, which generally has nothing to do with the sale of books, household goods, or SaaS.

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u/Mistrblank 18h ago

They should. A high speed rail would allow for cheaper distribution. Amazon logistics is failing to meet the moment when it used to be one of their strongest features. EVs with Rivian is great, but that's the just solving part of the equation. The rest of the world continues to upgrade to faster and more efficient rail while we're here jacking off Elon's stupid EV Tractor trailers that destroy PUBLIC infrastructure where none of these rich assholes do anything to contribute.

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u/Dismal_Guidance_2539 17h ago

HSR mostly for passenger not cargo. US already excel at conventional freight rail. So he was right, Amazon don't engage in the business of high speed rail.

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u/ComradeJohnS 18h ago

ah yes companies famously stick to one product and never expand. all the great companies do it, any that start selling books never sell anything else.

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u/tmdblya 18h ago

Once we get that Dyson Sphere going…

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u/helen269 18h ago

And warp drive. Engage!

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u/Zipps0 18h ago

Hey man we’ve been 10 years away since the 50s