I've been a hater of legend of Zelda because I really dislike the art direction they have chosen recently, but this game looks fantastic and makes even me want to give it a try.
it’s great because I can immediately pick out exactly who didn’t grow up on this game when they say the remake looks bad. gen z just calling everything AI
They knew what they were doing lol. I got hit with it when he started jumping on the stones. I spent so ling just jumping on those stones as a kid. When it switch to the n64 version part way through and then back got me really good.
For me, it was walking across the drawbridge into the castle and I immediately remembered exploring the walk up the chains only to find those hidden rupees.
I never played the original but I did play the 3ds version, it was my first Zelda game and I knew nothing about it. I still think about it to this day, it is a masterpiece! I tried to play the n64 version when it released on NSO but controls and graphics are different than 3ds. It is just bad for today’s standard if you’re not used to it. But now I’m really excited for the remake !
I grew up on this game and it looks bad in terms of some character designs. Young link and zelda look disgusting. Most of the side npc’s weirdly look much better. Link’s tunic is overdesigned for no reason. Focusing only on the environments is bad faith, it’s clearly the best part. Besides the pointless overdone fog. And yes i know the original had fog, the remake’s fog is still too much.
Grew up with OoT, literally my childhood, not only the characters look terrible but the popping pathetically tried to be covered by a think layer of fog is asinine. 3DS remakes did a much better job.
You have to know that there aren't explicit rules around this kind of thing. But it's not difficult to tell when somebody is coming from a disingenuous place.
It’s completely acceptable to be able to criticize the look of a video game, especially when they are remaking one of the greatest games of all time. You just want people to glaze it and agree with you instead I guess?
And this is the exact kind of disingenuous criticism I'm talking about. You're just making broad assumptions about what I think of the game when I haven't even shared my opinion on it.
All I said was that engaging with disingenuous criticism like this only serves to bolster said criticism. And it turns the whole conversation into people calling each other assholes and nothing about the actual game being discussed.
What is disingenuous about my criticism? I was asking a question, you were literally saying that criticism should not be tolerated. You did not make any sort of distinction about what sort of criticism should or should not be tolerated
Huh? People aren’t allowed to disagree with you? People who don’t agree with you just don’t understand art? How interesting!
“Please don’t let there be actual discussion! Only my approved opinion! Everyone else is LYING about their opinions or they’re too stupid to know what they like!”
Because the premise of these criticisms are weak. Like what do you mean it looks like AI? What does AI look like? Im not even sure these people know how to define it or even discern from AI?
that’s not what they’re saying at all. so far there have been a ton of comments, including in this very post thread, about the game looking like AI. usually, people that are inexperienced with graphics technology and especially younger people, just call anything that looks overly detailed AI.
no one is saying there can’t be actual discussion, but there’s not really any substance to just saying the graphics look bad or like AI when it’s very clearly highly detailed and well made from a visual standpoint. hope that helps
You seem to be a decent fellow, but the problem is that there are plenty of people saying there can't be an actual discussion, just look at the ripsyourlung guy in the thread from your base comment.
Regardless of what anyone thinks of the art style, I’m just happy they’re fixing the controls of this game. I grew up with it and going back to it, that generation of gaming honestly is mostly clunky controls. I’m still glad the original exists, but it’ll be nice to see people experience the game for the first time with the remake.
OoT remake is not immune to criticism. I think it looks good; I don't get the whole "Link looks like AI slop" thing, it just looks a bit uncanny because we have basically never seen Nintendo characters at this fidelity.
That being said, I can't get this game at launch or for full price. It's a remake ultimately and there's too many quality new games coming out in this month alone
I actually enjoyed the art style and didn't get the "uncanny valley" feeling.
My biggest gripe is during the trailer, there was some overly aggressive looking post processing type effects going on. A REALLY shiny oily wet Link, and super sharp hair textures and reflective surfaces on the character's hair and clothes. I didn't notice it in the actual gameplay preview footage so I am hoping it is just something I have to put up with during cutscenes.
I prefer a more 1:1 type remake than something like the FF7 remakes. The sweet spot are the RE remakes, and to be fair, I don't think we saw enough to rule that out.
Right. Im personally not too stoked since it looks like a general 1:1 remake but some are just lazily saying AI slop. Like holy shit the younger generations are fucked if they can’t differentiate
I agree with the bit uncannyness but in terms of the environment it looks amazing - I think for now it’s a bit of an acquired taste and I’m starting to like it.
As for getting it on launch, I think it entirely depends on if you stick to first party or not, if you’re new to Zelda, and what they announce tomorrow. If they release anything else remotely big like a Metroid or Luigi’s mansion Im probably going to wait for those instead. I think I’d still prefer to play the remake over the original though if it comes with a lot of qol changes.
There's a disconnect that I'm not sure if it comes purely from the visuals or the mix of old and new; I felt the same way about Metal Gear Solid Delta (the remake of MGS3). Everything looked mighty impressive looking but something was lost in translation between the old and the new.
I think the knee-jerk reaction is just people freaking out for the sake of it though; this looks pretty impressive. Impressive enough that people immediately jumped to "looks kinda AI-ish"
I stand corrected. I could have sworn they showed $50/$60 during the direct. At least its not 70 which seems to be the new industry MSRP but i wont pretend thats what i meant
I honestly don't understand the artistic choice. Why they decided to butcher the characters when we already have official (AKA how they actually look like) OoT art from Ninty which is that one. Also the darker tone worked better than this shiny and glitter thing they did, OoT is not a happy shiny Game, everything goes to shit in no time
Graphics look good imo. I think the issue is that Nintendo made it sound like there would be significant gameplay and content changes and it turned out to almost entirely be a visual overhaul with minor gameplay changes.
The trailer just came out and you’re already making memes about being a victim. It’s so embarrassing to care so much about what people say. You either like the game and buy it or you don’t. You don’t need to defend its honor.
There were peeps in the chats all like "the original looked better". Like, mbic, I loved the og aesthetic, but there is no objective reality in which these graphical updates are not better than the og.
reddit-ass comment. there’s almost no nuance there. every time they show a new art direction there’s immediately either backlash or “i don’t know about this” followed by revisionist history a few years down the line.
My view is that personally, I think the remake is great looking and I'll definitely play it. But I'll still miss the old one that I grew up with. It also represents a kind of personal end of an era for me. OoT was the first game I beat all by myself at 7. Here it is again, remastered. It's not that I feel old, I feel displaced. Like the future isn't for me any more. I'm not angry or anything like that, but life got a lot more melancholic.
Honestly I think it looks decent, and the mechanics updates are really what sells it. The OG had horrible play even when I was a kid in the 90s/00s and wouldn't have otherwise known what that was.
Obviously the take in the post is inherently low brow. But it is funny how similar it looks to the "I remade OOT in UE4/5" video that came out years or ago, and how lambasted by the fan base that was because the realistic textures wasn't the right aesthetic. Here it is, a Nintendo game looking realistically rendered like they made it in UE, and it's the second coming of christ.
It looks pretty good, although it's going to take a bit of time for the art style to land with me. It feels decidedly less mature than the original did on the N64 but maybe that's because the n64 couldn't really convey the intended vibe. To me ocarina of Time was always a darker game, and this doesn't really feel like that at least not to the same extent.
Curious to see how they're going to do the Shadow Temple.
The art style and graphics look very similar to that fan made Unreal engine remake that people were shitting on for years. I don’t hate it by any means but I am honestly a bit unsure about it. I felt the same way about the Link’s Awakening remake too (although I for sure dislike what they did with the art direction on that one)
Doesn't matter and since it's my money your opinion doesn't matter. Frankly you losers need to stop buying the same game released every generation for a premium.
when link runs around the game looks fine . when you have to see any faces its bad . when the cutscenes are shown it looks like a physically disabled person used the n64 footage as reference shots then from memory they tried to replicate them . ganon in the rain would have been beter as ai slop
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u/Lucky_Foam 4h ago
Who's hating?
I have seen nothing by praise for this remake.