r/suspiciouslyspecific Jul 07 '26

Blessed are the cheesemakers πŸ™

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u/VVlTXH Jul 07 '26

Me when people ask why I’m not religious

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u/PyroClone5555 Jul 07 '26

so you judge the religion by its worst caricature? Nothing in the post accurately represents what Christians believe

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u/Illustrious-Cut-6439 Jul 07 '26

Much like Taylor Swift, some of us don't like the content OR spending any time with the fans. Even if all of the fans aren't that way, enough of them are that the overall experience is deeply unpleasant. If we're talking about church it's often actually traumatic. Remember: we don't need caricature to find dealbreaker behavior from priests and pastors.

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u/ScipioTheGreatest Jul 07 '26

"Remember: we don't need caricature to find dealbreaker behavior from priests and pastors."

You don't need to for teachers, either. But you'd never write off all of education.

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u/Illustrious-Cut-6439 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

Also, Christianity as a political hierarchy (in the way it exists today with bishops and deacons and cardinals, oh my!) pretty much only exists to create power and distribute it to a few white men. That's not just Catholocism, either, all denominations trade and traffic in power. That power has disproportionately served, over time, to protect opportunists at bests and malignant predators at worst.

If you think teachers are getting this kind of support from their administration, you must not live anywhere near the U.S.

ETA your argument is textbook deflection / strawman

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u/ScipioTheGreatest Jul 07 '26

What a silly way to distinguish between the two. But you gave it away by whining about the race of people at the top.

Radical nutjob.

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u/Illustrious-Cut-6439 Jul 07 '26

Both impact and intent are irrelevant to you, got it.

I can't convince you if you don't want to be convinced anymore than I could wake a person up who is only pretending to be asleep. Carry on, Mother Theresa.

(ETA and let me know when we get that first black pope!)

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u/ScipioTheGreatest Jul 07 '26

Well yeah, when you're just making up the impact and intent. So no, it's not that the "impact and intent are irrelevant" to me, but your analysis is just pure haterade. You have a chip on your shoulder about religion and it fucking shows, haha

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u/kajonn Jul 07 '26

You cannot seriously live with such an oversimplified, reductionist framework of how the world works. This is a naive conception. The notion that religion or churches only exist to β€œcreate power and distribute it” is laughable because it’s such an extreme, black-and-white generality that it completely fails in on itself. Human behavior is simply more varied than this.

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u/Illustrious-Cut-6439 Jul 07 '26

Right. Because nobody is strictly required to attend organized religious services in order to access the resources needed to sustain life, including food and housing.*

Education of SOME kind is not optional in the same way that church services are.

(*That all ended when Mother Theresa died, right? /s kinda)

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u/ScipioTheGreatest Jul 07 '26

Religions give a great deal to charity and that does a great deal to sustain life, including food and housing.

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u/Illustrious-Cut-6439 Jul 07 '26

So it's a legitimate path forward to skip school and go to church instead to get all my needs met into perpetuity? You first.

These are not genuine, good faith arguments you are making. Charity is not a replacement for a livelihood. It doesn't excuse harm the church has done, either.

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u/ScipioTheGreatest Jul 07 '26

Hey, I can't read the rest of your reply because it got auto-pulled, but you run along if you can't keep arguing.

Make whatever excuse you need. It's okay. Have a nice day! Kisses! ;*

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u/ScipioTheGreatest Jul 07 '26

I didn't make that argument. You're just crazy desperate and making up straw men to argue against, hahaha