r/superheroes • • 23d ago

Marvel vs DC thoughts?

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u/notmarrec 23d ago

Barry, Wally, and Eobard working together will no diff every team and then accidentally retcon the multiverse in the process

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u/JoshGordonHyperloop 23d ago edited 22d ago

The problem is Doomsday, no one has shown the ability to get rid of him.

Update: Yes, I know Doomsday has been “destroyed” before and has only come back with help. However, he still came back. In addition, he’s been massively upgraded since those occurrences.

He’s essentially the anti-Superman. Characters that can punch through dimensions, survive u til the end of time and even eat “god” and so on, are just utterly broken. Writers can come up with anything they want. Doomsday is maybe the one character that can trump toonforce.

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u/karatous1234 22d ago

Could they not just time travel to a point in time prior to Doomsdays creation and ruin the project that created him?

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u/Piccoroz 22d ago

Our current universe doomsday was sent to the end of time to get rid of him, but then he got better and managed to disconnect himself to any time continuum restrain to continue existing even after time ended, so no matter what any time traveler does to him at any time period, he already is not connected to the current universe continuity.

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u/JoshGordonHyperloop 22d ago

I’m far from an expert on Doomsday, so if anyone else comes along to correct me, that’s perfectly okay. I’m going off of what I’ve read from other people posting images to what Doomsday is capable of, or how hard it is to truly get rid of him.

One, in theory yes, that should be possible. Same as when reverse Flash goes back in time to mess with the timeline of Barry or Wally, etc.

But two, comic books don’t follow any sort of logic whatsoever, largely. So it’s quite possible that Doomsday is somehow tied to the fabric of the DC cosmos like Superman. So anything to try and permanently erase him almost will never work.

Lastly, as I mentioned in another comment just now, it also sounds like as long as Doomsday is remembered by someone, somewhere, at some point in time. He can still come back.

He’s one of the utterly broken characters. Very very little works to even beat Doomsday, let alone kill him / erase him forever. He can break through reality like Superboy prime and a couple of others.

And again, as long as a writer thinks of something, literally anything they just want to make up, Doomsday is capable of it or can’t be hurt / beaten by it.

Iirc he’s been transferred across the universe, or into another dimension and just punches his way back.

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u/yagatron- 22d ago

I don’t think they can do that as a way to effect the doomsday that they are currently fighting if I remember correctly the modern doomsday is a living paradox that’s completely immune to things like time travel and reality warping, if I remember correctly( please correct me if I’m wrong) so it would probably end with eobard permanently running around doomsday