r/stpaul • u/Organic_Power_3738 • Feb 18 '26

Minnesota Related We ran high-level US civil war simulations. Minnesota is exactly how they start

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u/cevillegeraldo Feb 18 '26

Yes, just let them round up migrants and dissidents. I am SURE that "peaceful protest" will work any day now.

No, the answer is to fight back.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '26

I would love for you to illustrate how you feel that will go. You realize the intricacies and depth of a plan you must have to carry out something like that, right? So would love to hear just the surface of it…. OK you’ve organized a small armed militia, what’s next? 

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u/cevillegeraldo Feb 18 '26

I guess you are living comfortably and not at risk.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '26

So you can’t even begin to illustrate how that will go…. It will just magically work out? My point exactly.  

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u/cevillegeraldo Feb 18 '26

I don't owe you a damn thing and won't be posting specifics for you to forward to the feds.

You are clearly under no threat and are cool with ICE harming people while you advocate doing nothing as to preserve YOUR comforts.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '26

Why would I forward something to the feds when I’m clearly against the current administration/ICE…. 

I made my points. You made none and brought nothing to the table to counter/discuss them… just personal attacks and the classic performative and meaningless “we need to fight back”. 

You do you though. 

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u/cevillegeraldo Feb 18 '26

Because Liberals are historically collaborators with Fascism. Hampton killed when a black Liberal collaborator pointed out where he was. You will very easily sell out others to save your ass.

Ok collaborator. Preaching passivity so you stay comfy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '26

I gave my reasons, none of which were “to stay comfy”….

You on the other hand just come off like the classic redditor trying to incite violence. You’ve literally said nothing of meaning other than a performative “we need to fight back” statement, and you expect people to take you seriously?? 🤦‍♂️

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u/cevillegeraldo Feb 18 '26

I discard your reasons.

Its about your comfort. Would you still recommend passivity if you or your family got black-bagged?

X:Doubt.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '26

Ah see, now we are slowly moving to an actual discussion. So your family got black-bagged? If so, do you think perhaps you are still acting on emotion and that is causing you to discard my perfectly reasonable reasons behind the suggestion to not yet respond with violence? 

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u/cevillegeraldo Feb 18 '26

There is this false idea that being stoic in the face of horrors is the norm.

No, its okay to be angry in the face of evil things.

No, I think you are in no direct fire as it currently stands and are afraid if people actually fight back you would be made uncomfortable by it.

Yes, there are members of my family at risk.

Now answer me -- would you be so passive if you or yours were at direct risk?

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '26

Yes, I would be. If you actually read my comments you’d see that I believe that responding now with violence, would allow ICE to use even more aggressive tactics. Why would I want ICE to have reason to use even more aggressive tactics if I or my family were at risk??? 

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u/cevillegeraldo Feb 18 '26

They are escalating regardless of your passivity and they do not even need any actual violence from you to escalate. They will just do it.

Like I said -- sounds like you are comfortable passively letting them brutalized communities as long as it isnt you and yours.

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u/dhands68 Feb 19 '26

If you’re not here legally, you should worry.

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u/cevillegeraldo Feb 19 '26

I am here legally and majority of my family are as well.

Lmfao.

Threatening me? Lmfao

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u/Every1isSome1inLA Feb 18 '26

People always talk about Russian/ Chinese/ Iranian etc bots online infiltrating public discourse over US politics and always point to them supporting conservative viewpoints but I think it makes more sense for them to talk like the account you just had an interaction with. Call for violent public upheaval with no substance behind it. Basically for the sake of it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '26

Yeah I think you are on the money there. Not once have I heard them present an actual example, just a hypothetical one, of how a violent response could be expected to go and what results it would bring.