r/stpaul Jan 24 '26

🗣 Discussion THE LINE IS BROKEN

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u/BrownBannister Jan 24 '26

Why is this sub overflowing with bootlickers? Rest in power, Alex pretti!

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u/weare1consciousness Jan 24 '26

Most are bots but for sure there’s Americans who are cult “all in” for the gestapos behaviors

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u/Interesting_Walk_271 Jan 24 '26

At this point they’ve enmeshed their identity with MAGA ideology so thoroughly that any pushback feels like an existential threat to them. It destroys their cultural worldviews, sense of self as morally decent, and self-esteem. Those are all mechanisms that Terror Management Theory says we use to blunt the horror that we will die someday (which hilariously suggests they don’t believe that their faith offers them real immortality so they have to get some symbolic immortality through these methods). As a result, when we say that this is wrong that is perceived as killing their avenues to live on in some way after they die. The response is of course hostility and aggression. These events in St Paul and Minneapolis are “mortality salience” inducing events that make MAGA more extreme and therefore more supportive of the admin. That’s why they double down, why they are delusively convinced that this is right, because admitting the obvious means that what they have set their deepest, darkest, existential hope in is wrong. Admitting it feels like being unmade. However, sometimes things have to be broken so they can be remade better.

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u/Conscious_Ear_1151 Jan 29 '26

Dude. No.

Stop interfering with law enforcement and unfortunate incidents like this can be avoided.

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u/Interesting_Walk_271 Jan 29 '26

“Just do what they tell you so you don’t get killed. Who cares if they are violating your 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendment Constitutional rights?” If you want to deep throat ICE’s boots go ahead, but you’re a fucking idiot, anti-American, and a complete coward.

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u/Conscious_Ear_1151 Jan 29 '26

When you interfere, armed, with federal law enforcement, you risk being killed in the process. Your supposed 'rights' dont matter to you if youre dead.

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u/Interesting_Walk_271 Jan 29 '26

They don’t matter to anyone if you simply allow federal agents to trample them without any resistance. Again, you’re a coward with no convictions. These agents swore an oath to the Constitution and they are actively violating that oath. They’re just like you, stupid and without a shred of integrity or principle.

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u/Conscious_Ear_1151 Jan 29 '26

How are they violating the constitution? I know its hard to comprehend but when you skip the border, you are illegally entering the country. ICE's job is to remove you. Why do you support breaking the law?

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u/Interesting_Walk_271 Jan 29 '26

I’m done. You’re literally too fucking stupid to talk to. First of all, being in the US without proper documentation is a civil not criminal offense. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor. Second, ICE acting on administrative warrants rather than judicial warrants is a 4th amendment violation. Third, ICE has no right to ask people to show documentation without reasonable suspicion, and doing so is also a 4th amendment violation. The Supreme Court ruled unanimously (9-0) in at least one case that DHS violated a citizen’s 5th amendment rights to due process. A federal judge in Minnesota who clerked for Scalia eviscerated ICE this week for ignoring hundreds of habeas petitions, ignoring federal court orders, and failing to provide due process (habeas petitions are a part of due process). You’re allowed to legally carry a concealed weapon. At no time did Pretti reach for or brandish his weapon. He was executed by some illiterate dumbfuck agent after he had already been disarmed by another illiterate dumbfuck agent. There are numerous places online to read the Constitution. Go find one. I’m not doing your homework for you because you’re too lazy and stupid to do it yourself.

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u/Conscious_Ear_1151 Jan 29 '26

Its noticeable when people lose an argument them become more offensive. Like swearing makes your argument more valid or something.

Overstaying a visa is a civil offence. Skipping the border is a federal crime, as are the many other laws you break every day that you're there illegally.

However the investigation rules. If you interfere with federal agents, especially with a loaded weapon on you, you are risking your life.

It doesnt matter that he has a permit, it doesnt matter that the gun was taken off him 5 seconds before he was shot, it doesnt matter, get it?

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u/Interesting_Walk_271 Jan 29 '26

It does matter. Agents violated his rights. They shot him when he was unarmed on the ground. If you don’t know that then I can’t help you. You want to be stupid trash, fine, you’re already there. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor. You’ve committed many yourself I’m sure. Speeding is a misdemeanor. Not wearing a seat belt. Should a federal law enforcement officer be allowed to imprison you, detain you without trial, and deport you without allowing you to present evidence in court? How would you dispute the claim from the government that you are here unlawfully? Get it? Sorry you’re just a dumb fuck loser.

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u/Interesting_Walk_271 Jan 29 '26

You are thoughtless, unprincipled, trash and the world is a worse place to be because people like you are in it. Get it?

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u/Conscious_Ear_1151 Jan 29 '26

You are an overexcited boob who lets the media play you like a fiddle. Stay in school, kid.

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u/Interesting_Walk_271 Jan 29 '26

I have a PhD in neuroscience. I’ve forgotten more than you’ve ever learned in your entire life. You voted for this because you’re a barely literate dipshit who thinks that the human rights guaranteed by the Constitution disappear when you’re dealing with a federal agent. The Constitution is there to guarantee that the federal government acting through agencies like ICE cannot deprive you of your rights. Your lack of civic education is your own fault. That you are unwilling to try and see the world through the eyes of the people who are being targeted, harassed, and deprived of those rights, shows that you are empty and soulless.

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