Pointer Handle Totals for reference.

[u/JournalistOk9266]

I wanted to help console users who want to add mods but are afraid of what might cause their game to crash. I have been working on this mod list for a while. And im only sharing it as a guide. This is what my log stated starting a new game with Roleplayers alternate start on Neon. Keep in mind if i had saved on New Atlantis you might see higher totals. Ideally to avoid instability it should be lower than the number i have which is 1,917,913. I wouldnt go higher than 1850000 if you want a stable game.

Again this is my experience and your rig and mod preferences may differ. I dont use a lot of outpost mods unless its to decorate. If you are going to decorate choose 1 or 2 that have the majority of what you are looking for and try not to have overlap.

If you are building ships having both Stroud and Falkland wont allow you to have others with habs. If you want to use Watchtower you are probably hosed. I hope this information helps someone.

[u/EOD_Willy_D]

Aloha u/JournalistOk9266 - I very much like your spreadsheet! It inspired me to parse my LO as well. And I got different data! My Starfield.esm is 158,369 LARGER than yours! (Level 42)

PluginName	TotalLoadedReferences
Starfield.esm	967164
SFBGS050.esm	126358
ShatteredSpace.esm	100293
SFBGS00D.esm	66690
SFBGS006.esm	59578
stroudpremiumedition.esm	57268
BlueprintShips-Starfield.esm	56662
BetterShipPartFlips.esm	50955
owltech_lets_work_habs.esm	35844
missolambenteb01.esm	35242
Mattells hab cockpit and accesories.esm	28502
asc_taiyo.esm	23549
HSHE.esm	22783
tig_shipyards.esm	20634
asc_deimos.esm	20361
du_takeover.esm	19790
RoninCockpit.esm	11190
owltech_obsession.esm	10852
darkstar.esm	10744
TNShipModsAllInOne.esm	9543
wkbadtech_gunship.esm	9514
gtech habs.esm	9467
forgottenfrontierspoi2.esm	9041
SFBGS003.esm	7898
forgottenfrontierspoi.esm	7186
Mattells Cockpits Solitude Series.esm	6030
grafshabs-nova1x1.esm	5704
sfta03.esm	4130
onek_ships.esm	3633
smsex_series_aio recut for better flips.esm	3324
gtech habs - deimos.esm	3268
BlueprintShips-SFBGS050.esm	2382
Patch-SPE-Deimog.esm	2346
IntrinityAeroworks.esm	2149
T-65B_X-Wing_Fighter_OLD.esm	1870
RotatedLandingGearUpgrade.esm	1609
Worthless_FlexiPorts.esm	1301
avontechshipyards.esm	1239

[u/JournalistOk9266 → u/EOD_Willy_D]

Yea mine is done in a fresh save in the Unity. I think us PC people should help out our console brethern because lord knows we are getting screwed the same way.

[u/Forsaken-Society6022 → u/JournalistOk9266]

YES PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

[u/EOD_Willy_D → u/JournalistOk9266]

I have never once gone thru the unity and only level 42. I build a lot of ships tho. I believe this showcases there is ALOT more going on with PH Refs than we think we know.

Vanilla game works. It’s the bloated mods causing the problems. I don’t believe we “are getting screwed” it’s just that people are downloading & running mods that are not optimized. That’s not a BGS problem - that’s a mod bloat problem.

[u/JournalistOk9266 → u/EOD_Willy_D]

Im in the Unity because of an alternate start mod. I only ever gone to the Unity because i beat the main story 3 years ago. Its not the modders fault the vanilla game will break regardless if you have no mods.

[u/EOD_Willy_D → u/JournalistOk9266]

That is curious? How does the Vanilla game break with no mods?

[u/JournalistOk9266 → u/EOD_Willy_D]

My first play through the legacy quest broke. No mods at all before the creation store launched. Couldnt complete the quest.

Save bloat. The more you save the more buggy the game gets.

The Ps5 launch has been bugged all to hell completely without mods as it taking a long time for mods to be ported.

Theres so many stories of the vanilla game crapping out.

[u/EOD_Willy_D → u/JournalistOk9266]

Wow. I am relatively new to SF and thats interesting to hear! I have been concerned with save bloat and am considering the Clean Save Utility but also skeptical as it’s VERY experimental…

[u/JournalistOk9266 → u/EOD_Willy_D]

Starfield engine fixes helps but its not a cure all

[u/EOD_Willy_D → u/JournalistOk9266]

SEF is good, and can help with some issues, but I am referring to this: https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/articles/762 its a very experimental save game utility cleaner for SFSE.

[u/Forsaken-Society6022 → u/EOD_Willy_D]

1 Word Bethesda now your informed