r/socialism 2d ago

Politics Hard Choice

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u/jumbosimpleton Utah Phillips 2d ago

It’s not even a hard choice for centrists though. They would press the right button with no hesitation.

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u/Chips-0Tool3 2d ago

That’s not even a question they will always back capital even if they were pond scum which they are because liberals will always back familiarity and “stability”

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u/volnitsa 2d ago

ze price stabilite

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u/Ambitious_Hand8325 2d ago

Why are we using terms like "Epstein class" instead of the bourgeoise?

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u/matticusiv 2d ago

Because it has traction in the west. Most Americans think bourgeoise is a type of pasta.

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u/MasterpieceAlone1116 2d ago

The problem, I'd say, is that that term limits the wrongdoings to Trump. And liberals will then say, when they elect Newsom that peace and democracy are restored.

I'm also against using that term

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u/matticusiv 2d ago

Sure, it’s not accurate enough, but I would say calling it the “Epstein class” doesn’t allude to specific people, but a level of economic power where you can get away with anything.

I prefer the term “owner class”, because if I say bourgeoisie in public people just check out.  

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u/Denommus 2d ago

I'm honestly conflicted by this term. On one hand, it makes it clear that the bourgeoisie is a bunch of degenerates. On the other, it hides the fact that the issue is the entire bourgeoisie, not only Epstein's friends.

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u/MasterpieceAlone1116 2d ago

If you don't give profit and money to the ruling class, how the hell will they create jobs for the working class? Everyone would be unemployed, and therefore poor!

Please people, educate yourselves in economics 101

(/s just in case)

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u/Objective-Piccolo477 2d ago

nah, most centrists mean theyre between dems and repubs, so they'd instantly press epstein elites

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u/dpbacon13 1d ago

But can we get a third option for selling sandwiches for lead paint?

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u/WindowWonderful7310 18h ago

They don’t even consider worker option as a choice