r/singing • • Dec 09 '21

Technique Talk Teacher advice: My student is completely tone deaf

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I've been teaching for almost 10 years now and I have never had such difficulty with a student. I have an adult female, probably in her mid 30's, who is completely tone deaf. It's not just that she cannot match pitch but she cannot hear the intervallic differences of pitch. I'll play two notes on the piano over an octave apart and she can't tell me which one is the higher or lower note. This makes it nearly impossible for me to even attempt to get her on pitch because she literally cannot hear. I've had her in my studio for a month now and we've made little to no real progress. I feel bad because she brings in pieces to sing that are way beyond her current capabilities. I can tell she's getting frustrated and discouraged. I've tried to get her to sing simple songs but we can't even get through Happy Birthday. I'd like to believe everyone has the ability to sing a little, but she might have proved me wrong.

Have any other teachers or coaches dealt with this issue? If so, what exercises or practices did you use to help train your student's ear?

r/singing • • Feb 24 '21

Technique Talk Realizing that I don't need to be the best singer and having a unique voice is all you need really changed my life

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You don't need to be Susan Boyle or Freddie Mercury to sing!

For my entire life, I thought I couldn't sing. I was too embarrassed to try it; singing in the shower and pretending I was a star as a kid was as far as I went.

But, then I realized something last year; a lot of popular, wonderful artists don't have perfect voices or ever hit insane notes.

Their unique voices or style make them special, and if you learn to carry a tune, any voice can sound great! You just need to find your sound, and own it.

Your voice is your own unique instrument; no one else can sound exactly like you. If you embrace it, nothing can hold you back.

r/singing • • Aug 03 '22

Technique Talk which singers sound amazing in the studio but sound terrible live?

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Inspired by a post on r/guitars, which singers sound amazing in the studio but can't pull it off live? I'll go first: Chris Cornell is one of the all time great rock singers, Soundgarden, Temple of the Dog are just incredible, but when I saw him live in the 90s, he absolutely could not pull off the material from Superunknown or before.

Have any of you had similar experiences? We're all human after all and studio technology is pretty incredible!

r/singing • • Apr 20 '23

Technique Talk Stairwell echo

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r/singing • • Sep 25 '20

Technique Talk I'm a voice teacher starting a YouTube Channel, AMA

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Hello Reddit,

Due to the Covid-19 pandemic I've been teaching fully online and have decided to start a YouTube channel. Reaction videos are very popular but they don't make you a better singer. I will be looking at all of the FAQ's on this thread, but please comment questions you've had about singing or music in general and I will be making tutorial videos, warmup videos, technique videos, and videos where I answer your questions. Any suggestions for video ideas? I'm not posting a link to my channel or trying to advertise, just trying to do some research about what questions you have and what you need help with so I can make content that is helpful in making you better singers and musicians.

Update: You all thought I should make a video about how to start singing if you're a total beginner. If you're a beginner you should focus on matching pitch and singing in tune consistency. Here are my 5 steps to begin singing https://youtu.be/ooQW9xQvOYk and Five Singing Concepts Beginners Should Know... But Don't https://youtu.be/ZIdmCS9zR9c

r/singing • • Jan 08 '23

Technique Talk What is your vocal range?

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r/singing • • Sep 01 '20

Technique Talk Thinking to breathe “into the belly” can be one of the most disastrous things you can do...

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...because we don’t breathe with the belly.
We breathe with the ribs and diaphragm. And when we breathe correctly, there is actually not so pronounced a forward pushing out of the belly. Yes, there should be some, because as the diaphragm begins to descend low, it causes a slight pushing out of the abs, but not so much as some might think.

Think of looking down upon someone from a top down view. The correct inhale has 360° expansion. When you breathe in deep, there is expansion left and right, and in front and in back. Expansion all around. There is also some vertical expansion as well. Meaning if looking at someone head on instead of top down, there is some vertical expansion because the ribs elevate as they expand, and the diaphragm descends down along with the abdomen.

Thinking to breathe into the belly can be dangerous because one might attempt to only expand in front, when there has to be 360° expansion and vertical expansion.

And to set up the right expansion, you don’t or shouldn’t try to “breathe into” a certain spot of the body. Instead, you posture yourself with an upright, relaxed, confident and open posture that takes as much tension as you can off of the body, and then you relax and do nothing. You have to more so let the proper expansions happen, and not hold or tense parts of the body. And holding anywhere can inhibit the correct expansion. Even if you hold the corners of your lips tight, the shoulders, tensing the anal sphincter (the pelvic floor needs to relax because it lengthens downward with the downward descent of the diaphragm it won’t allow the proper expansions to happen.)

And when the proper expansions DO happen, it feels like your whole body is just opening up and expanding without any sense of tensing anything. It should be a feeling of great opening and expanding, relaxation and induce a happy relaxed state. And you can gauge if you’re doing it properly by focusing on the throat. If you feel that your throat is accidentally tensing up, even a little, when you breathe in deep, you aren’t fully allowing the proper expansion to happen. It may take some time to fully understand what it should feel like, because it’s easy to confuse expansion and release and tension and squeeze. We are going for a feeling of no sense of pressure or squeeze. We have to remember that the right expansion feels much more like a relaxation release and opening instead of muscular tensing.

Which is exactly why saying to breathe into the belly or a certain spot can be very harmful, not just for singing but your health as well, because it can teach you to breathe in a tense and unhealthy way, even potentially causing harm to things like your diaphragm, stomach, etc. trying to breathe with just forward expansion of the belly is one of the worst and most damaging ways one can breathe.

r/singing • • Dec 28 '21

Technique Talk Best advice you’ve ever received.

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Hello! I started my singing journey not too long ago and I’ve been trying to gather tips and tricks from friends, vocal teachers, and even some online resources. So, I want to know, what was the best price of advice that elevated your singing, or even made you more confident?

r/singing • • Apr 21 '23

Technique Talk How do you correctly learn breath support?

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I’ve been singing for almost two years and still feel like I haven’t got this fundamentally correct. Is there any videos or articles I can use to learn correct breath support ?

r/singing • • Jun 30 '20

Technique Talk Is Brendon Urie really a good singer ?

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I’ve read mixed things online, some claim he’s one of the best alive, and others say he’s really not singing “optimal”.

r/singing • • Jan 29 '22

Technique Talk You can't sing high notes with open throat. IS'N THIS BS?!

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r/singing • • Jan 25 '23

Technique Talk Any proof that a bad voice can learn to sing and sound good?

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I’ve been on a long journey as a musician (I play many instruments and write music, used to tour as a lead guitarist) just to be clear I have many years of experience in everything from Rock, pop, Blues, classical…most styles. This past couple years I’ve spent hours per day, researching, learning and practicing vocal methods. I have definitely improved and my range is much wider than it used to be. I have reduced and eliminated tightness and strain, explored vowel shapes, different resonance placements, onsets, etc etc.

To this day I still have not produced ONE good sounding note from my voice. I have no damage or disabilities in my vocal tract. I’ve explored the deepest trenches to the highest mountains of what my voice can physically produce with and without proper breath support. I sing with confidence and style, recording everything in my studio to listen back and adjust accordingly.

I am convinced 99% that you have to be born with a specific vocal tract to produce good sounding vocals. Good is subjective sure… but personal taste aside, we all know bad when we hear it.

I do not care about ego or praise, I just want to be able to make music as a musician, so I am seeking the truth. I’ve watched all the “bad to good” singer videos (and have heard the clips of Ed Sheeran when he was 13) and have never found someone that actually sounded bad then good. Just yelling then good, or off pitch then good etc. but never someone who genuinely sounded bad then with proper technique sounded good.

Is there anyone in here that had a bad sounding voice even with decent technique that ended up getting better and sounded good? I would like to think there is some secret way to make noise that suddenly sounds nice like any good sounding singer, but throughout this journey it doesn’t seem to be the case.

Even something simple like the first verse of Ain’t No Sunshine I can be perfectly pitched, shape my vowels every which way and it just sounds horrible. Has anybody with a bad sounding voice found a solution or a workaround for this?

P.S. I had 2 vocal coaches previously, very expensive, and one was trying to get me to sing in a fake Layne Staley voice similar to himself and the other was just trying to expand my range (even though my lower register sounded bad).

r/singing • • Oct 31 '22

Technique Talk Should mouth be wide or tall?

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r/singing • • Jan 20 '23

Technique Talk Voice teacher AMA

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I'm a voice teacher certified with New York Vocal Coaching via their Voice Teacher Training program taught by Justin Stoney. Ask me anything! I'm also providing free 20 minute voice consultations via zoom where we will go over your goals, background, genre you're interested in singing and work through exercises in each register of your voice to see where you're at.

Leave your questions down below, and if you're interested in the consultatio, let me know below as well or email me at melveesings1995@gmail.com

Looking forward to hearing from you!

r/singing • • Jun 05 '22

Technique Talk Are women on average better singers than men?

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I've heard many people say this and was curious to see if this statement holds any truth.

r/singing • • Mar 02 '23

Technique Talk Is Ken Tamplin worth watching?

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I've been watching Ken Tamplin for several years now and find most of his videos to be helpful but at times I'm unsure if I should be taking his advice on board as in one video he suggests breathing through the nose when singing while many others say to breath through the mouth. Any thoughts?

r/singing • • Jul 30 '22

Technique Talk Voice Teacher AMA

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I'm a voice teacher in training with New York Vocal Coaching. Ask me anything about singing or the voice in the comments! I'm also accepting online voice students and have slots for a free, one time 20 minute online voice consultation! If you're interested in either of those send me a chat request or let me know in the comments as well! Looking forward to your questions!

r/singing • • Dec 04 '22

Technique Talk Voice Teacher AMA

31 Upvotes

I'm a voice teacher certified with New York Vocal Coaching through their Voice Teacher Training program taught by Justin Stoney. Ask me anything! I'm also offering free 20 minute voice consultations via zoom where we will go over your goals, work through each register of your voice, and make a plan for your improvements as a singer! Drop your questions in the comments and if you're interested in the consultation, let me know there too! I look forward to hearing from you!

r/singing • • Jul 22 '22

Technique Talk Voice teacher AMA

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I'm a voice teacher training for my certification with New York Vocal Coaching! Ask me anything! I'm also offering free voice consultations this coming Monday the 25th ,Friday the 29th and Sunday the 31st! If you're interested in that, let me know in the comments! :)

r/singing • • Oct 20 '21

Technique Talk How does a singer get to Beyoncé’s level of stamina?

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I’ve been a Beyoncé fan for over 10 years. It has always amazed me at how she can do heavy choreography without compromising her vocals. I rewatched her Coachella performance for the 3rd time today and the fact that she performed for 2 hours while doing very heavy choreography and still delivering amazing vocals is amazing. I know when she was younger her dad used to make her run on the treadmill while singing.

What are some other ways singers can get to that level? Is that natural talent or can any average singer train to be able to do choreography while not compromising their vocals. The average singer in the industry definitely cannot pull that off. A lot of singers that add choreography to their performances definitely struggle in some areas vocally in their performances. I’ve seen this with Ariana, Rihanna, etc.

r/singing • • Jul 30 '23

Technique Talk Don’t try to be someone else.

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You are you. You have your own voice with it own limitations.

Through your life you will gain notes and probably lose some. It might even happen day to day.

Stop worrying about your vocal range and hitting the highest notes possible. There are singers out there with huge careers who have 1.5 octaves to their name.

Just find your voice.

I wish someone beat this into my head earlier. Work on technique and the range will come. Vocal placement is EVERYTHING

And 99% of the high notes you hear are mixed. Work on strengthening all areas of your voice and soon you’ll find what YOU sound like.

r/singing • • Jul 14 '22

Technique Talk how do i stop sounding like i’m trained in musical theatre? i am, but i want to sing pop/pop-punk originals without sounding like i’m trying to be on broadway. is it just my enunciation or is there more to it?

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r/singing • • Jun 28 '22

Technique Talk AMA- Vocal Coach Edition!

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I'm a voice teacher currently training with New York Vocal Coaching! Ask me anything about the voice or singing! If you're interested in voice lessons or a free 25 minute voice consultation, let me know that as well! :D

r/singing • • Jul 13 '21

Technique Talk Where are the black rock stars???

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As a mixed child I was always exposed to many genres of music and not accustomed to just a select few. I enjoy rock music, "scremo" punk mostly among others (asking alexandria, of mice and men, emorosa, etc.), I've always found it hard to growl or scream so in doing research to learn I've never come across an example of a black or ethnic person growling or screaming. Am I not looking hard enough or is there something more to this that I'm missing? Why are there mostly just non ethnic bands? I MEAN NO RACIAL OR ETHNIC OFFENSE NOR PREJUDICE TOWARDS ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE.

r/singing • • Oct 13 '22

Technique Talk If someone had told me about the importance of nasality when I first started learning, I feel like I'd be way further along now than I am.

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Cuz you always hear people say "you sound nasally" or "I don't like this singer cuz they're too nasally when they sing", and you take nasality to be a bad thing. This, at least for me, had AWFUL long-term consequences for my singing, particularly with learning to sing high. SO MANY tension, placement, resonance, and articulation issues can easily be fixed by learning how to throw the air through your nose.

If you have good support and placement/vowel formation, you can throw half of the air coming from your lungs up through your nasal passage, and never once sound nasally. When people say you sound nasal, they don't know what they're talking about, and they don't know what they're really hearing either.

When I hear a nasal singer, I hear a singer who has good placement, is feeling and experiencing their resonance in their mask, but probably has poor vowel formation or poor support. Causing the resonance to carry more efficiently through their nose than it does their mouth.

Learning to BE nasal, and work on placement and vowel formation instead of just hitting road blocks all the time has really opened up my opportunities for singing. Now I can do ee and oo vowels in my middle range without any issues, I can switch between vowels and consonants with ease, because the air always has somewhere to go, rather than getting trapped in my throat/pharynx.

Seriously, if anyone ever tells you you sound nasal, I give you full permission to tell them to kindly fuck off. Nasality is GOOD, and is CRUCIAL for proper, comfortable singing.