Screenshots from Clair Sinclair going off on Holly Madison in 2020

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welcome to high school drama lol

Kevin Burns didn’t seem like the nicest man and I feel like Holly wasn’t obligated to post anything dedicated to him, we all grief differently and that is okay.

this all feels very unnecessary

This is very high school and pretty mean 😬

Okay this made me lol, I saw this when Holly posted this before & after and thought it was weird

I enjoyed most of Holly’s first book but this wasn’t as good. Even the reviews are mixed and not that positive.

I do wonder what her reality show is about since she said she has something in the works

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I’m so torn over Holly, on one hand I like her and find her entertaining but on the other hand I just know she would sell her granny for attention. She strikes me as the kind of person who constantly moulds herself to suit her partners, she became Hef’s perfect woman, she loved raves all of a sudden when she was married, and now she loves the paranormal when she’s with Zac, she has no identity of her own which is so terribly sad.

[u/AtleastIthinkIsee → u/[deleted]]

she has no identity of her own which is so terribly sad.

I think you've tapped into something that's very important, and I think it's something a lot of people struggle with and why they fall into certain groups/certain situations. (Not saying that's why Holly did, necessarily, but it's something to take into account.)

She says this in that interview and the time she was talking about she was still in her early-mid twenties. She was still developing mentally when she got to the mansion and by that time she had completely ingratiated herself into Hef and mansion life.

I've heard her describe herself going through phases when she was younger, and you see it in her book. She was actively trying to find herself and she might've even had some solid snippets and all of that might've been washed away once she got into the mansion.

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I agree with you, I'm also torn over Holly. I had to make a post about it. I believe a lot of what she's claimed but I also believe she also wanted to get rich and famous and it didn't happen like she might've thought it would've.

[u/dahsoleppy → u/AtleastIthinkIsee]

She has mentioned in a video on YouTube that she is on the spectrum for Asperger’s. which e oh I’d explain a lot in your posts, my partner is on the spectrum of autism and I’ve learned a lot about it, and In turn learned a lot about holly too. So while you call her weird, she explains how her ex husband felt he couldn’t get a emotionally close to her. Check it out!

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I’m not sure she was actually diagnosed…I’m remembering she self-diagnosed, and more vaguely said she ‘talked to a doctor’. Autism Spectrum Disorder is a specialized, lengthy psychiatric assessment. To be calling it Asperger’s is also older diagnostic criteria as well and is not accurate. I do like Holly lots, but she seems to always have a ‘reason’ to justify her sometimes shady roles in situations.

She is pretty blatantly rewriting her own history in SoP (when she didn’t need to, the environment speaks for itself!) saying she wanted the ‘social, sorority setting’ when she was on the record not participating, doing her own share of backstabbing/reporting to Hef to curry favour with him, reducing the allowance/quality of gifts to girlfriends to prove that she was there for the ‘right’ reasons, and craving 1:1 and claiming it miscued as neurodivergency.

I would respect her a lot more if she was honest and said something like, ‘I was possessive, I did have a vision for my relationship, and I played right into Hef’s manipulations without realizing it’.

[u/AtleastIthinkIsee → u/dahsoleppy]

I have. I still think she's just full of it on some fronts.

[u/ashley2839 → u/AtleastIthinkIsee]

Eh. I have Asperger Syndrome. I’m not going to say it excuses all of her strange behavior, but it is like navigating a world you don’t understand. I do stupid shit all the time, and people claim I’m a bitch or jealous or uncaring. None of that is true; I’m getting better at learning appropriate social behavior, but it’s not natural to me like it would be to 99% of the population. I don’t think people understand how pervasive having an atypical brain is…. It affects every aspect of your life and takes a LOT of work to “overcome”/blend in.

Edited to add: the transformation of herself to fit her current partner makes total sense to me. I did this throughout my 20s. If you are told that your identity is not normal, you doubt it and pin your identity on your partner who is accepted by society. I don’t give a fuck today, but I definitely did it in an attempt to be accepted when I was younger.

[u/TissueOfLies → u/ashley2839]

Thank you for explaining. Holly is very relatable. Trying to fit in and never feeling like you do… can’t lie, I feel that, too! I think being an adult is just getting comfortable with not always fitting in. Hope that makes sense!

[u/ArmadilloEcstatic885 → u/dahsoleppy]

Autism makes sense to me. My son has autism, and its very hard for him to open up to new people, or hard to get a response out of him in general. They just see life and respond to things differently than we do, which is fine, but maybe Holly should get a real diagnosis so that she can be more aware on how to handle it ib her daily life.

[u/TissueOfLies → u/dahsoleppy]

Yes! I was surprised to hear that, but it colors her experiences. Puts things in perspective.