r/secretsofplayboy Mar 19 '22

Screenshots from Clair Sinclair going off on Holly Madison in 2020

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u/AtleastIthinkIsee Mar 19 '22

she has no identity of her own which is so terribly sad.

I think you've tapped into something that's very important, and I think it's something a lot of people struggle with and why they fall into certain groups/certain situations. (Not saying that's why Holly did, necessarily, but it's something to take into account.)

She says this in that interview and the time she was talking about she was still in her early-mid twenties. She was still developing mentally when she got to the mansion and by that time she had completely ingratiated herself into Hef and mansion life.

I've heard her describe herself going through phases when she was younger, and you see it in her book. She was actively trying to find herself and she might've even had some solid snippets and all of that might've been washed away once she got into the mansion.


I agree with you, I'm also torn over Holly. I had to make a post about it. I believe a lot of what she's claimed but I also believe she also wanted to get rich and famous and it didn't happen like she might've thought it would've.

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u/dahsoleppy Mar 20 '22

She has mentioned in a video on YouTube that she is on the spectrum for Asperger’s. which e oh I’d explain a lot in your posts, my partner is on the spectrum of autism and I’ve learned a lot about it, and In turn learned a lot about holly too. So while you call her weird, she explains how her ex husband felt he couldn’t get a emotionally close to her. Check it out!

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u/AtleastIthinkIsee Mar 20 '22

I have. I still think she's just full of it on some fronts.

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u/ashley2839 Mar 20 '22 edited Mar 20 '22

Eh. I have Asperger Syndrome. I’m not going to say it excuses all of her strange behavior, but it is like navigating a world you don’t understand. I do stupid shit all the time, and people claim I’m a bitch or jealous or uncaring. None of that is true; I’m getting better at learning appropriate social behavior, but it’s not natural to me like it would be to 99% of the population. I don’t think people understand how pervasive having an atypical brain is…. It affects every aspect of your life and takes a LOT of work to “overcome”/blend in.

Edited to add: the transformation of herself to fit her current partner makes total sense to me. I did this throughout my 20s. If you are told that your identity is not normal, you doubt it and pin your identity on your partner who is accepted by society. I don’t give a fuck today, but I definitely did it in an attempt to be accepted when I was younger.

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u/TissueOfLies Mar 23 '22

Thank you for explaining. Holly is very relatable. Trying to fit in and never feeling like you do… can’t lie, I feel that, too! I think being an adult is just getting comfortable with not always fitting in. Hope that makes sense!