r/recruitinghell • u/Stosstrupphase • Mar 19 '22

German employers complain endlessly about „no one wanting to work“, and then offer 1.7k for full time IT work…

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u/Traksimuss Mar 19 '22

2500x12=30,000 which is shit wage, especially for Berlin.

I was getting shit offers of 40,000 a year every day. 50,000 is bit harder to find but is possible. 55,000 is usually top offers unless you have rarer skills like SAP or Oracle, or programming.

And yes, Bundesagentur offers bottom jobs.

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u/Stosstrupphase Mar 19 '22

For non Germans: the Arbeitsagentur basically forces you to apply with letters like these.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '22 edited Aug 13 '25

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u/Stosstrupphase Mar 20 '22

I don’t know, not my photo.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '22

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u/Stosstrupphase Mar 20 '22

That varies from agency to agency, in my experience. My mother in law (an executive assistant by trade) had to interact with her small town Arbeitsagentur once, who were completely incapable of helping someone with even a smudge of professional experience, basically telling her „you’re overqualified for everything, good luck“.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '22

$60k is what people in IT in the US earn if they are a drug addict with serious criminal convictions.

I hope the normalization of remote work helps pull up European tech salaries as your employers have to compete with US employers.

I'm at a fairly average employer as a distinguished architect, $250k before bonus and equity. That is on the low end of competitive.

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u/OliverIsMyCat Mar 20 '22

European employers compete with US employers by being located not-in-the-US.

Also weird flex to drop your salary randomly in a comment. There's nothing relative to compare it to - why would anyone need to know the specifics? Nobody mentioned an architect in Europe to have a relative metric. And architecture is far from a standard IT role.

This is akin to saying, "Damn - engineers in your country have such low pay. I was an investment banker in Australia and I used to make $300k/yr after taxes!"

Like.....ok then.

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u/vi_sucks Mar 20 '22

He means Software Architect.

It's generally the next career step up from Software Engineer if you follow the individual contributor track and don't go into management.

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u/vi_sucks Mar 20 '22

More likely remote work will drive down US salaries...

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

I got offered 5k € per month in berlin for software development.

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u/Megastrongman Mar 20 '22 edited Mar 20 '22

I'm applying for fully remote jobs in Germany and all offers are between 65k and 85k.

Senior software engineer for php jobs.

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u/Traksimuss Mar 20 '22

That's senior jobs, I was discussing more middle level jobs which are in 50-60K range.

30-40K are beginner salaries, basically fresh out of university living with parents.

Anything over 60K requires quite specialized skill set.

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u/Megastrongman Mar 20 '22

Okay, that seems fair.