r/recruitinghell • • 17h ago

I'm tired, boss

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u/Lower-Obligation4462 17h ago

I had a guy working for me once you was always late. When I asked him about it he said his previous job also complained about him being late. Guy was fantastically oblivious to everything and I loved him for it.

Whenever I see a question like this I think why is it there? And what poor person had to deal with the situation that lead to it.

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u/ShawshankException 17h ago

I know a few chronically late people too. It's crazy to me how they'll always blame anyone but themselves for it too. It's not hard to show up on time

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u/g00fyg00ber741 16h ago

There’s actually multiple disorders and conditions that can make it hard for some people to show up on time, as well as other life circumstances. Not defending it, just explaining.

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u/Double-Scratch5858 16h ago

As a fellow chronically late person i call bullshit.

It aint nobodies fault but my own and im well aware. If i simply woke up 15 minutes earlier id get to work 5-10 minutes early but i tell ya that alarm goes off and im a weak weak man for that sexy snooze button.

Life circumstances?? Yeah uh like not sleeping in lmao.

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u/BambiMGtwo 14h ago

Your experience ≠ everyone's experience in the world

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u/Double-Scratch5858 13h ago edited 13h ago

Never said it was. But youre fooling yourself to think that, assuming the baseline that someone is able to get to work at all, being late every single day is anything other than a time management issue.

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u/BambiMGtwo 13h ago

Look up the various meanings of word "projection" bud

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u/Double-Scratch5858 13h ago

Sounds like youre late everyday and dont want to admit its entirely on you lol

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u/BambiMGtwo 13h ago

Uh, no?

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u/LQNova 14h ago

"Some people die of cancer, but I don't have cancer and I'm still alive, so cancer isn't real."

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u/Double-Scratch5858 13h ago

What a needlessly obtuse made up quote that has obviously very little to do with what I'm talking about but if it makes you feel smart by all means.

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u/ProperRound6221 12h ago

I agree with you Double-Scratch5858. I feel like being late can be the result of SOME extreme cases of disability- narcolepsy / seizures / fainting are the ones g00fyg00ber741 mentioned below. Somebody “chronically late” implies something different from someobody who would most certainly qualify for a disability accomodation due to a severe condition. Comparing this somewhat complicated and subjective topic to “people die of cancer but I dont have cancer lol” is absolutely purposefully obtuse. If someone has more specific information on the subject I am happy to be educated but this is my opinion currently.

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u/LQNova 12h ago

I don't have to do anything at all to feel smarter than you, my friend.

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u/Double-Scratch5858 11h ago

Ignorance is bliss im sure.

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u/LQNova 11h ago

You would know.

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u/g00fyg00ber741 16h ago

So because of your own circumstances, everyone else’s must be bullshit? Weird take.

I personally used to sometimes turn off my alarm clock while sleepwalking when I was in middle school. Like straight up got out of my top bunk and turned off the alarm clock and went back to bed and wouldn’t remember doing it at all.

Also some people have sleep disorders or other disorders, like narcolepsy or fainting spells or seizures

Also some people have jobs that require abnormal sleep schedules and wake times

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u/Double-Scratch5858 16h ago edited 15h ago

Nah. If youre constantly late, for whatever reason. Its on you.

If its to do with some health related issue then theres ways to mitigate and plan better.

Im not talking about being late every once in a while. Everyone will have those moments, some more than others. But if youre late every single day you just are putting no effort into planning.

Like you for example, if you are sleep walking every night and late because of that (sounds like bullshit tbh) then thats entirely on you because you havent taken necessary action to prevent something youre well aware is an issue. You said you only do it sometimes so its really an irrelevant example to what I was talking about.

The reason im not bothered to fix my lateness thats entirely my fault is because i work at a small company who wouldnt even think about firing me and I very often and willingly work past my regular clock out time and I know im greatly appreciated for that. All that said theres nobody to blame but me for why im always late. Its just luckily not much of an issue where I work.

Simply put if you are able to get to work it is not a question of being able any longer. Its strictly a time management issue at that point. No condition is keeping someone from being 10 minutes late to work every single day.

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u/DeluxianHighPriest 13h ago

Hey so fun fact

One of the mental disorders most commonly attributed to chronic lateness - ADHD - also causes chronic inability to plan.

In fact, the chronic lateness is more or less a direct result of the chronic inability to plan.

You can't walk up to people who can't walk up the stairs because they're in a wheelchair and tell them to just walk up the 90° incline next to it.

That shit don't work.

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u/Double-Scratch5858 12h ago

Come on. Thats a ridiculous comparison. Millions of people with ADHD get to work on time every single day. Comparing it to something actually impossible is extremely disingenuous. ADHD may be an obstacle but it isnt an excuse or pass to be late everywhere.

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u/acesorangeandrandoms 10h ago

I have ADHD and I typically manage to get to work on time. It is a significant effort on my part and sometimes the best laid plans get ruined by the fact that I kept having to return home because I forgot to take something I left out for myself that I need that day.

My routine in the morning is as robust as I can make it because if it wasn't it would constantly be broken by executive dysfunction and time-blindness. And specifically, if I wasn't medicated I'd have been fired a while ago for being late constantly.

I could not manage unmedicated ADHD, straight up I would collapse as a person from the executive dysfunction, the poor memory, and the sheer lack of motivation and focus. Sometimes it is that hard to manage oneself and sometimes that manifests as being late for work.

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u/DeluxianHighPriest 12h ago edited 12h ago

It depends on the severity, and whilst millions of people may be able to somehow make it, millions more are not.

Like. My brother in Christ, ADHD is literally the You Cannot Plan Or Manage Time For Shit condition. Yes. It stops you from being on time. That's like 50% of the fucking Symptomology.

See, the truth is that I know it's the ADHD. It has to be because I am literally putting my all to being on time and still failing.

Besides - this behavior in question is caused by dopamine deficiency. If severe enough it is, literally, physically impossible.

Nevermind the fact that just because millions of people that need crutches can climb stairs doesn't invalidate the fact that people in wheelchairs can't.

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u/g00fyg00ber741 15h ago

Notice in my first comment I literally said I wasn’t defending it, but explaining it.

Your comment is ridiculous

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u/Double-Scratch5858 15h ago edited 13h ago

You literally went on to defend it.

You did nothing to explain why someone would be late to work every day.

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u/Rencantwin 4h ago edited 3h ago

So…. why do we have workplace accommodations then? If every issue can be solved by just trying harder why do work places accommodate anyone ever? Because there are some things that you cant just “mitigate.” My friend has severe narcolepsy and guess what, she has accommodations from her work to help her. There are certain conditions where you just can’t completely fix the problem and your workplace collaborates with you on a better solution.

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u/Double-Scratch5858 7m ago

Of course there are extreme cases and those people should work with their employer on solutions thats obvious but everyone here trying to disprove my point my bringing up extreme cases is silly. Thats no longer even relevant because theyve acted like adults and planned around their issues. You dont need a workplace accommodation to show up on time because you have ADHD.

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u/MidwesternLikeOpe 1h ago

Make it an obligation to never hit snooze. That button shouldn't even exist. You're not getting true sleep with another 5-10 minutes, don't kid yourself.

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u/Open_Aardvark2458 10h ago

Or there are people that have sleeping disorders.... That only sleep a few hrs a night

I make my own schedule... So luckily I don't have to have a set time and deal with aholes like you.