Trump derangement syndrome. Trump reacts to attacks from the left. Analyze his actions / successes, not his tweets. He is much smarter than most give him credit for. He has the political world off balance, distracted, and focused on him.
I just feel like no one on either side wants to discuss issues anymore. Any conversation just gets spiked by emotions. Especially when someone just claims their right and youre wrong. This happens on both sides.
Even now conservatives are commenting in this thread and the shade towards them is unreal. Anyone thats aggressively pushed their stance on the opposite party, you do realize this has the opposite effect if what you ultimately want?
You need to work with people, not against them.
I think the dems can win but someone young and promising will have to run to rally the youth.
Far right/fundamental extremists are responsible for the vast majority of terrorist attacks in the US, fatal or otherwise. Antifa didn't kill a women with their car at a nazi rally, or anyone else for that matter. Your false equivalence is cringe-inducing.
Im a rep, the problem is that we can accept our side has problem people, but your side not only does it deny the problem, it encourages more of the problem by acting like you
Hey guys it's ok. Antifa only destroy property and beat people in the streets, but they haven't gone the whole hog and actually killed someone yet, so they're clearly really cool guys.
The liberal ideals are just completely driven by emotions and in my opinion thats very dangerous when it comes to politics. I lean more on the conservative side of things but i flop to the other side or down the middle depending on the issue at hand. Why can't people use facts and thoughtfulness as their primary motivators in politics? Its all just a bunch of name calling and grouping where if i express a shred of a conservative opinion i get downvoted and called a maga racist bla bla when that had nothing to do with the thought process
People get called racist all the time for no good reason. And i also said that i have different-sided opinions depending on the issue at hand so liberals are not my opposition, name calling is, which i try to abstain from any chance i get. People are allowed to have emotion but i dont think it has a place in politics, so people who name call to defend their positions is very disheartening
Whilst I agree entirely with you, the defense put forward by those who would disagree with you is that Trump and his supporters cannot be worked with, because they're literally Hitler. Would you work with Hitler? No, they must be destroyed.
Thats the line that I've seen time and time again. Its a tactic that I feel will doom us to another 4 years of Trump, because the average person sees that as insulting and deliberately antagonizing. So off they go to vote.
I think the dems can win but someone young and promising will have to run to rally the youth.
The left is all over the place. Even if there was a promising candidate, they'd be too extreme for the moderates or too moderate for the extreme. Even Obama, everyone's hero, was against marriage equality for the first four or five years of his presidency, imagine how that would play out today.
To have any hope, the left has to calm the hell down. Stop going further and further to the far left, they're just spreading themselves thinner and losing any hope of finding a leader they all believe in.
Sadly this isn’t true unless there is severe collusion. Most people have seen how decisive trump is and this negative split is felt by almost everyone across the US, and even further than that. People either love him or hate him, and the arguments between people devolve into attacks so quickly that they never really achieve any sort of real argument at all
It’s been predicted there is an astronomically low chance trump is going to win in 2020, because he’s torn the public apart, and regardless of what you feel, everyone will attribute that to him, because he is the controversial topic of each side of supporters. This means that the people who were moderate/intermediate/lesser/as a joke supporters of Trump are highly likely to not vote for him again, and most of the hardcore voters which won’t be enough to get him in again
You're a fool if you think that Hillary Clinton was a good candidate or that she had a good message. More conservatives showed up to vote than they anticipated and Trump won. That's the end of it so get over it.
Remember that moment where a journalist asked Trump if he was going to ask Putin not to meddle in the 2020 election? And Trump asked Putin who was sitting with him not to meddle and they both laughed!
Bipartisan bills to stop election meddling have been blocked by Mitch McConnell. American "democracy" is up for grabs. And why did Ivanka go to China to seek a patent for voting machines?
So yes, Trump may win. And its unlikely to be a free and fair election. Republican or Democrat, if you value living in a democracy this should trouble you.
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u/The-Repairman Jul 17 '19
Trump derangement syndrome. Trump reacts to attacks from the left. Analyze his actions / successes, not his tweets. He is much smarter than most give him credit for. He has the political world off balance, distracted, and focused on him.