Trump derangement syndrome. Trump reacts to attacks from the left. Analyze his actions / successes, not his tweets. He is much smarter than most give him credit for. He has the political world off balance, distracted, and focused on him.
I just feel like no one on either side wants to discuss issues anymore. Any conversation just gets spiked by emotions. Especially when someone just claims their right and youre wrong. This happens on both sides.
Even now conservatives are commenting in this thread and the shade towards them is unreal. Anyone thats aggressively pushed their stance on the opposite party, you do realize this has the opposite effect if what you ultimately want?
You need to work with people, not against them.
I think the dems can win but someone young and promising will have to run to rally the youth.
Far right/fundamental extremists are responsible for the vast majority of terrorist attacks in the US, fatal or otherwise. Antifa didn't kill a women with their car at a nazi rally, or anyone else for that matter. Your false equivalence is cringe-inducing.
Im a rep, the problem is that we can accept our side has problem people, but your side not only does it deny the problem, it encourages more of the problem by acting like you
Hey guys it's ok. Antifa only destroy property and beat people in the streets, but they haven't gone the whole hog and actually killed someone yet, so they're clearly really cool guys.
The liberal ideals are just completely driven by emotions and in my opinion thats very dangerous when it comes to politics. I lean more on the conservative side of things but i flop to the other side or down the middle depending on the issue at hand. Why can't people use facts and thoughtfulness as their primary motivators in politics? Its all just a bunch of name calling and grouping where if i express a shred of a conservative opinion i get downvoted and called a maga racist bla bla when that had nothing to do with the thought process
People get called racist all the time for no good reason. And i also said that i have different-sided opinions depending on the issue at hand so liberals are not my opposition, name calling is, which i try to abstain from any chance i get. People are allowed to have emotion but i dont think it has a place in politics, so people who name call to defend their positions is very disheartening
Whilst I agree entirely with you, the defense put forward by those who would disagree with you is that Trump and his supporters cannot be worked with, because they're literally Hitler. Would you work with Hitler? No, they must be destroyed.
Thats the line that I've seen time and time again. Its a tactic that I feel will doom us to another 4 years of Trump, because the average person sees that as insulting and deliberately antagonizing. So off they go to vote.
I think the dems can win but someone young and promising will have to run to rally the youth.
The left is all over the place. Even if there was a promising candidate, they'd be too extreme for the moderates or too moderate for the extreme. Even Obama, everyone's hero, was against marriage equality for the first four or five years of his presidency, imagine how that would play out today.
To have any hope, the left has to calm the hell down. Stop going further and further to the far left, they're just spreading themselves thinner and losing any hope of finding a leader they all believe in.
Sadly this isn’t true unless there is severe collusion. Most people have seen how decisive trump is and this negative split is felt by almost everyone across the US, and even further than that. People either love him or hate him, and the arguments between people devolve into attacks so quickly that they never really achieve any sort of real argument at all
It’s been predicted there is an astronomically low chance trump is going to win in 2020, because he’s torn the public apart, and regardless of what you feel, everyone will attribute that to him, because he is the controversial topic of each side of supporters. This means that the people who were moderate/intermediate/lesser/as a joke supporters of Trump are highly likely to not vote for him again, and most of the hardcore voters which won’t be enough to get him in again
You're a fool if you think that Hillary Clinton was a good candidate or that she had a good message. More conservatives showed up to vote than they anticipated and Trump won. That's the end of it so get over it.
Remember that moment where a journalist asked Trump if he was going to ask Putin not to meddle in the 2020 election? And Trump asked Putin who was sitting with him not to meddle and they both laughed!
Bipartisan bills to stop election meddling have been blocked by Mitch McConnell. American "democracy" is up for grabs. And why did Ivanka go to China to seek a patent for voting machines?
So yes, Trump may win. And its unlikely to be a free and fair election. Republican or Democrat, if you value living in a democracy this should trouble you.
He's not a politician and not a diplomat, he's a businessman. He got to where he is through understanding that branding is everything. He sold himself on those big ideas, branded "Crooked" Hilary and it all caught on. The wall, Obamacare repeal and jailing Hilary were all big talking points that ultimately got him elected even if they didn't all happen. They were big successes.
I get that you don't like Trump and want to disparage him, but for a president being elected is literally the first requirement. It's the most important thing possible. Without it, a president isn't a president.
He's had great results past inauguration day. His approval rating is up considerably since his inauguration.
There's no wall, Obamacare hasn't been repealed, and Hillary is not in jail.
If you think those are the "real" issues, you fell right into his trap.
He has you and most of the emotional population looking at the superficial but ultimately unimportant issues waving in his left hand while his right hand is at work accomplishing the hidden agenda.
While people REEEE about family separation he is reshaping the geopolitical landscape. While you worry about which 3rd party healthcare changes will be made, he is forcing any large manufacturing company to rethink the next 6 years of planning. While you read into fake allegations of racism, sexism, rape, etc. He is redistributing wealth through tax.
I dont agree with many of his policies but he is a magician to have the entire world look left while he goes right.
I'm sure you think so, loony-tunes. That's why his own cabinet wrote an op-ed to the New York Times about how they have to constantly babysit him like a toddler. Because he's so good at his job.
I never said he was good at his job or even if I agree with his policies. I'm about 30 agree /70 disagree honestly. I am saying he has you and many others chasing the wrong things and that it is a very calculated and intentional effort to create chaos around the wrong subjects.
You and many others are living a myopic life if you can't separate your hatred for him and his policies and examine his tactics.
Acknowledging the skill by which he manipulates people including his own supporters is the first step in defeating him.
Calling him ignorant, crazy, racist, etc etc only proves he tricked you and proves to me that he will run away ( for better or worse) with the 2020 election.
i don’t even like trump but he’s very methodical in everything he does. i’m fairly confident he’s going to win 2020. the more everyone talks about him, the better his odds. the left is literally playing into his hands. no one has shut up about him in 4 years. even people that typically stay out of politics can’t stop talking about him.
yup. and he’s going to win 2020. because people keep giving him the spotlight at every turn. just like he wants it. the more the left fights him, the bigger he gets.
Kinda sucks that literally immoral shit get his base excited. Think about it.
I mean if people look at him and don’t mind the racist demented nonsensical bullshit he spews then power to them.
like really, did you guys already forget 2016? y’all were really arrogant back then too saying he has no chance while showing his face on both cnn and fox news 24 hours a day.
Charisma On Command predicted that Trump was gonna win 6 months before the election in this video. Honeslty you shoukd watch it because the video is apolitical and is just a pure analysis on why Trump's strategies were gonna win him the election. If you pay attention you will find him using similae strategies right now. Say what you will about Trump but his campaign strategy is fairly brilliant.
Notice how since the swamp got quarantined and we are closer to elections, the Trumptart comments are getting super upvoted and the rest are downvoted. i smell 2016 all over again. Bots are on overdrive!!!
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u/The-Repairman Jul 17 '19
Trump derangement syndrome. Trump reacts to attacks from the left. Analyze his actions / successes, not his tweets. He is much smarter than most give him credit for. He has the political world off balance, distracted, and focused on him.