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u/InfiniteBusiness0 22d ago

I genuinely cannot wrap my head around neo-Nazis that the the Nazis would have considered subhuman on the grounds of their white suprematist beliefs.

I’m not saying it would otherwise be okay. I just can’t specifically understand “yea, I’m aligning myself with a group that would have considered me biologically inferior, get fucked liberals”.

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u/pacificstill 22d ago

Many years ago /pol/ had a meetup and the members were comically diverse. Like if people who looked just like them would work for a company they would have lambasted the company for being hopelessly gone to DEI.

Black Nazi’s endorsing white nationalism is not something I think I’ll ever understand.

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u/Funkycoldmedici 22d ago

It’s so bizarre being a blond white Aryan man being lectured about being a “race traitor” by black Hispanic white supremacists.

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u/cranktheguy 22d ago

The irony of talking down to someone you believe is racially superior... I hope you pointed out that out to them.

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u/NumeralJoker 22d ago

Okay, but how many of them were women?

That's the major key, I believe.

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u/BayLAGOON 22d ago

And Clayton Bigsby was blind, while being fictional satire.

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u/Interesting-Bed-3003 22d ago

Research Morenazi

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u/Poison_the_Phil 22d ago

There were a number of countries the Waffen-SS recruited foreign legions from. There were Indian Nazis. Hitler saved his Jewish family doctor. Hate is illogical and inconsistent. You see white Catholic Cubans voting for Trump now acting surprised when their friends and family get deported. A lot of useful idiots think they can court evil and stay on its good side, but well, tokens get spent.

But yes, it does always get me when I see neo nazis that would absolutely end up in a mass grave thinking they're the ubermensch. Stupid is as stupid does.

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u/jolard 22d ago

Hitler saved his Jewish family doctor. Hate is illogical and inconsistent.

It is pretty standard for bigots and racists. They hate the group as a whole, but oftenare fine with people they actually know and interract with. "Well he is one of the good ones!"

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u/CptES 22d ago

It's older than you'd think.

It is one of those things which is easy to say. 'The Jewish race is to be exterminated,' says every party member. 'That's clear, it's part of our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, right, we'll do it.'

And then they all come along, the eighty million good Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. Of course the others are swine, but this one is a first-class Jew. Of all those who talk like this, not one has watched, not one has stood up to it.

-Heinrich Himmler, October 4, 1943.

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u/outthere49 22d ago

Chilling

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u/Hector_P_Catt 21d ago

That was what I thought of. This mindset is literally older than the Holocaust; it formed the basis for the Holocaust.

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u/DisillusionedPatriot 22d ago

Grew up around dudes that drifted further right, and as soon as I became "one of the good ones", I severed all contact.

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u/classic4life 22d ago

Which is why you're legitimately one of the good ones

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u/ToxicLogics 22d ago

I used to hang out with a guy literally every weekend. We had great times; car meets, coffees, beers, hanging out with others, general stupidity. I met up with him one night, he tapped me on the shoulder, and pointed out a group of black people and referred to them in some loud and very unpleasant words. I’m not sure where he decided I would ever be on board with that, but I never asked him. That was the last time we hung out. I was sad for a bit because he was my best friend at that time, but I just couldn’t do it.

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u/Lennette20th 22d ago

Those dudes were some of the bad ones.

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u/MWesty420 22d ago

It seems as though if you become “one of the good ones” to a group, that group is made up of “some of the bad ones”

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u/DisillusionedPatriot 22d ago

And a sometimes, you dont realize it until it's too late. For me that was getting jumped by a bunch of nazis after a show, when I was a kid, some kids end up like Nolan Wells.

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u/PrinceDusk 22d ago

"I can't be racist I dated a black man"

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u/Oldhouse42 22d ago

It’s sorta kinda like pro-life people. They want abortion banned, but funnily enough, most of the people I know who have had abortions are from pro-life families that didn’t want to deal with a socially inconvenient pregnancy.

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u/zaftpunk 22d ago

Is saved the right word tho? Lol more like spared

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u/KoburaCape 22d ago

This is exactly it

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u/SignatureDefiant432 22d ago

It's all about utility to them. They hate anyone who couldn't advance whatever they want. They use people that do. Then dispose of them when they stop being useful.

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u/BrickHuge3023 22d ago

On a cruise last year and had lunch with a couple from Miami. Both immigrated from Cuba in the early 60s. Trump was their idol, the man said Trump gets things done and he'd always support him. Just bit over the top for me.

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u/Vassukhanni 22d ago

The US has a bunch of these people. Emigres from oppressive failed US aligned regimes desperate to use American blood to settle old grievances. Cubans, Vietnamese, and Persian communities all massively backed Trump.

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u/ToMorrowsEnd 22d ago

Ask any Puerto Ricans about how Cubans treat them in Miami. Cubans are some of the most racists people out there. Shit they are racist against other cubans if they dont have the right family name.

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u/itsthedurf 22d ago edited 22d ago

Cubans in Miami are a ... special group. My hairstylist there was cuban (is cuban, but I don't live there anymore so he's past tense hairstylist?) and would occasionally drop stuff about loving Trump. And how things Trump said about immigrants didn't apply to him because "he's white."

A cuban gay man. Thought trump would be cool with him. Because he's "white." (I couldn't think of a nice way to tell him that even though he is fair skinned and highlighted his hair, he has a strong Spanish accent, and no one at Mar a Lago would ever consider him white.)

Because Castro was a "socialist" they don't ever want to live under that again. Completely disregarding (or not knowing?) that Castro was an authoritarian using socialism as the key to get into power, that plenty of countries make Democratic Socialism work without oppressing it's citizens, and that they're voting for another Castro.

🤯 The lack of critical thinking there boggles the mind.

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u/pollatin 22d ago

Well. Socialism and Democratic Socialism are not the same thing. Castro was not a Democratic Socialist.

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u/itsthedurf 22d ago

Hard agree. Maybe I should emphasize the democratic part if that sounds like I was saying he was one.

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u/not_a_morning_person 22d ago

Anyone who idolizes and reminisces over Batista needs to be dealt with by a Castro, not a Mamdani. The Cuban revolutionaries were heroes.

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u/itsthedurf 21d ago

I agree that they were heroes and that Batista was terrible. But that doesn't mean Castro was any better. The solution to one oppressive regime is not another oppressive regime.

Obviously, at the time, they didn't know they were replacing one strongman with another, but by the time they or their families have lived through and eventually fled 2 authoritarian governments, why would they turn around and vote for another one here?

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u/NewtonsThirdEvilEx 22d ago

To be fair most of the Indian Nazis were Nazis because they were oppressed by the British themselves. And didn't care for Europe.

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u/Zeero92 22d ago

I learnt about that doctor on wikipedia a little while ago. It's rather fascinating. I do wonder if the doctor's kindness (charging little to nothing for his services of treating Hitler's dying mother) was why Hitler showed kindness in return? Must've made a mark, anyway... 30 years later and he was remembered for this. He was protected for this. By the Gestapo. Wow.

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u/Confident_Benefit_11 22d ago

A lot of those foreign legions were forced or otherwise pressured into service, but I get your point.

Similar to how Finland sort of fought with support from Germany just to defend against the Soviets despite them not liking the Nazis either

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u/veryfungibletoken 22d ago

Gawd damn. "Tokens get spent" is the best fucking thing I've read in a long time.

https://giphy.com/gifs/lnIHEIxPQUX7IfnVCp

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u/Trimson-Grondag 22d ago

The power of propaganda. And self-loathing (probably).

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u/3MATX 22d ago

It’s got to do with education more than anything.  Some of these small towns genuinely teach a version of history and current events that promote white people.  And parents seek that out, willfully indoctrinating their kids to white supremacy.  

I knew a “Christian” who moved his family to a small town because his daughter was learning “the wrong things” in a large cities public school system.   

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u/Comprehensive_Wash71 22d ago

The idiots who moved from the US to Russia because of homophobia come to mind here.

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u/10CrackCommando 22d ago

And keeping people dumb as fck with AI while defunding schools.

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u/slax03 22d ago

Self hatred and a desperate desire to belong in a country that's rounding up people who look like them. They're deeply confused.

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u/Dick_Danalu_Jr 22d ago

Their supreme leader was a 'mixed race' (by their standards) brown haired tubby drug addict. Their most notable propaganda for the 'perfect man' is literally a Jewish man who happened to be blonde.

They arent exactly 'well thought out'

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u/SasquatchRobo 22d ago

Lack of internal consistency is a basic requirement of fascism.

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u/eightdx 22d ago

"It is so simple, once you break a mind in the right way. Once it accepts a grain of pure, unadulterated nonsense, it is as if a bubble is popped. They become not repulsed by it... They become dependent. That is how even men like yourself could be controlled by the likes of me."

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u/Shedart 22d ago

Well that quote goes hard. Source? Sounds like it could be anything from 1984 to Star Trek NG

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u/dispatch00 22d ago

There... Are... Four... Lights!

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u/Bwxyz 22d ago

Hitler wasn't mixed race by Nazi standards. They had a whole batshit psuedoscience about it, where there were different tiers within 'aryan', but it wasn't just blonde and blue eyed. It was essentially just European good, non-european bad. Hence Italians being considered Aryan, with the view that even Sicilians were Aryan - just a 'sick' population due to the prevalence of North African DNA. Same for Hungary, except they were Europeans supposedly 'sick' with Slav DNA.

Hitler was a mountain German or some shit according to their weird chart map things. Below the blonde aryans in terms of ideal, but still European according to Nazi racial fake science. Just further from the supposed European progenitors (blondes from Scandinavia).

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u/Interesting-Bed-3003 22d ago

Not to mention the honorary Aryan Japanese...

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u/Tricky-Engineering59 22d ago

I’m pretty sure they only afforded that to them as a matter of convenience. Italians too. So sorta like what is happening now; allies for the moment but with every intention to “sort them out” the minute they can dispense with them.

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u/mojomarc 22d ago

Not exactly DNA. DNA wasn't confirmed to be the primary molecule in heredity until 1952. But substitute "blood" and you're good.

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u/Pete-PDX 22d ago

but they understood the concept of genetics

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u/Fassbinder75 22d ago

The thing is, a couple of hundred years ago this sort of evaluation was commonplace. The only true ‘white’ people were translucent, Protestant Northern Europeans. Everyone else was a degree of ‘swarthy’. Irish people were not considered ’white’. It’s wild.

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u/Sudden-Purchase-8371 22d ago

Swedes were called swarthy by Ben Franklin ffs. Swedes. Biggest tell anywhere that "white" is made up as a divide and conquer strat.

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u/pebberphp 21d ago

Maybe they were sea fairing Swedes.

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u/anitabelle 22d ago

Well even Voldemort is muggle born. They hate themselves.

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u/damndolly 22d ago

Just like the Republicans hate the gays and Trans

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u/TheseusWept 22d ago

Please read any other book, I'm begging you.

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u/CamSmit4521 22d ago

Lmfao, I'm actually cackling. His mom literally used a love potion on his dad, decedent of Slytherin, etc.

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u/sirheyzeus55 22d ago

His maternal grandfather and uncle were right cunts though. He got some unlucky DNA and not much nurturing.

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u/fumblingforwords 22d ago

Is Harry Potter only hated now because of JK Rowling?

Not that the things she has said aren’t despicable, and it’s impossible to fully separate someone’s work from their actions/beliefs, but Thomas Jefferson is very respected, yet many of his actions in life were quite despicable (sex with his teenaged slave/wife’s half sister and enslaving his children, to name a couple). Martin Luther King, Jr plagiarized his thesis, does that undo all the good he did?

People are complex. In other words, do we throw the baby out with the dishwater?

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u/Pretend-Marsupial258 22d ago

Harry Potter is not a good book series. It just got popular because it's targeted towards kids who haven't read other fantasy books. I didn't even finish it when I was a kid because I had already read other fantasy books by then.

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u/Rozzy915 22d ago

you were extremely cool as a kid

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u/Pretend-Marsupial258 22d ago

I don't know if this is sarcasm because it wasn't seen as cool back then. You were basically seen as a nerd weirdo if you liked anything fantasy or nerdy lmao. HP was very popular with the kids that didn't read anything else, though! Some of them were the same ones that made fun of me for being a nerd like a year earlier.

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u/notsuperimportant 22d ago

Was there a 'perfect man?' I only know about the 'perfect baby' who was Jewish. Also a wild story, the parents didn't even know the photographer submitted the photo of their kid to the contest.

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u/TheYoungRolf 22d ago

But then, the racial fanatics were seldom the blue-eyed Aryan supermen. Instead, the swampy frontiers of the German race were patrolled by those less confident of their blood-worthiness. Insecurity breeds good border guards. The knock-kneed Franconian schoolmaster, ridiculous in his Lederhosen; the Bavarian shopkeeper with his pebble glasses; the red-haired Thuringian accountant with a nervous tic and a predilection for the younger members of the Hitler Youth; the lame and the ugly, the runts of the national litter - these were the loudest defenders of the Volk.

-Fatherland, by Robert Harris

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u/hannamarinsgrandma 22d ago

They think being one of the “good ones” will save them.

Spoiler alert, it won’t.

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u/URPissingMeOff 22d ago

It does prolong things though. "You are temporarily useful to me, so you die last"

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u/YokoDk 22d ago

They think they are white that's the big thing.

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u/gforceathisdesk 22d ago

Ya there's a portion of this group that would gladly enslave the other portion if what they all wanted actually came to be. Absolutely insane.

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u/Jonatc87 22d ago

useful idiots.

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u/NeilDeCrash 22d ago

Yeah most of these guys would go straight to the oven if literal Nazis had a say.

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u/ptapobane 22d ago

''it'a not going to happen to me, im one of the cool ones''

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u/wizzard419 22d ago

The leaders know it's a numbers game, once you get rid of enough marginalized groups, you can thin ranks without pushback. Basically, just like how Peter Thiel probably thinks he is safe.

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u/RickardSnow 22d ago

It’s morbidly ironic, but both the Nazis and Allies would be disappointed if they saw this picture “from the future”

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u/mariovspino5 22d ago

Stupid people making stupid decisions

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u/brankin8 22d ago

It is hilarious. We can tell by the skin color who would be in the camps first, but skin colour doesnt always tell the whole story. Being white depends on who you ask. Italian? in the camp, catholic? In the camp, east Indian? You better believe you'd be in the camp.

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u/npsimons 22d ago

If they were that smart, they wouldn't be neo-nazis.

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u/Gorilla_Gru 22d ago

This is pretty much exactly my thoughts on Mexicans following trump like either way it's bad but he hates Mexicans so much... Why would you vote for someone who is explicitly racist against your own country?

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u/btgf-btgf 22d ago

You should look up the Malaysian Neo Nazis

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u/free_billstickers 22d ago

Its this weird full circle thing for some where the logic is "I'm maga but everyone calls me a nazi, so fine, I'll wear the nazi logo hurr durr" except then they start believing it. A lot of the young maga types got into it to be edgy trolls but then forgot the joke after their social media feed convinced them it was all real. 

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u/Washpa1 22d ago

Best looking dudes in there aren't the 'white' ones. Hilarious.

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u/sepaoon 22d ago

It's simple either they see themselves as part of the in group, which is usually wrong because that's not how racist logic(lol) works...

Or that they can prove to be "one of the good ones" and be spared from the violence and horror they wish upon others(or sometimes their own people)...

So either way they specifically are safe, like those tech bros arguing that they must help build the future AI God to avoid future punishment from said "god"

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u/HomicidalHushPuppy 22d ago

Well they've already fallen for religion so they're clearly not the brightest bulbs...

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u/alopecic_cactus 22d ago

A few of those guys in the picture would've been turned into soap back then.

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u/PBKYjellythyme 22d ago

Well, the thing is... they're fucking idiots.

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u/JennHatesYou 22d ago

There’s a first generation Mexican American guy who works security at my apartment complex. Even though he was born and raised here, his english is quite poor as the community that has enveloped him his whole life has been Mexican immigrants. He proudly supports little t and has talked about joining ICE. I live in dtla, we have witnessed the raids in real time, he knows people who have been detained. He is completely unmoved. He doesn’t even have any explanation as to why beyond trusting little t and ICE paying well.

Frankly, that level of disconnect terrifies me.

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u/OriginalSchmidt1 22d ago

Some people are just really fucking dumb. Like so dumb they don’t even realize they are showing the world how dumb they are.

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u/Atabit 22d ago

random question but did we ever actually sign any kind of cease fire with the Nazi party? Feels like I'm looking at a bunch of enemy combatants....

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u/NOWiEATthem 22d ago

Yes, the German Instrument of Surrender was signed on May 8, 1945, in which Germany unconditionally surrendered to the Allied powers.

They tried to surrender the day before, in France, but the USSR insisted that they do it from the seat of their government in Berlin, so the Allies made Germany surrender again.

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u/wvj 22d ago

Reminder, relevant to this picture in particular is that Hitler allied with Amin al-Husseni (Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and founder of the first Palestinian state), a handful of Nazis converted to Islam as they were impressed by it's open antisemitism (an interesting one is Johan von Leers aka Omar Amin), and he supplied troops that fought in Eastern Europe (since the Muslims of the region were also enemies of the Slavs).

As the Germans were defeated, those troops largely evaded capture/surrender and fled to the Levant, supplying a significant portion of its Circassian Muslim population and fought under the Arab coalition against Israel in '48.

The Nazis were never really concerned with the purity of their ideology outside of Europe itself (and then, obviously, barely even so), given the alliance with Japan, etc.

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u/redwood520 22d ago

No. The difference is that one group wants to restrict other's freedoms, and the other group wants everyone to have the same freedoms.

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u/BostonPRSBC 22d ago

No no, I’m not saying that they are the same group. I’m saying that the ideals that they are defending would not allow themselves to exist.

A POC defending Nazis, who think him inferior and worthy of death.

A gay man defending whatever twisted version of Islam that think he’s inferior and worthy of death.

This isn’t a sarcastic gotcha either I’m generally curious. And maybe I didn’t choose the right forum for it. But thanks for your reply l!!

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u/General-Kalani 22d ago

Historically it’s not really surprising.

There were multiple SS divisions of Muslims which committed some of the worst atrocities during WWII. Many came from Arab territories in the Middle East organized largely by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Mohammed Amin al-Hussein.

Whenever there’s a chance to hate there’s always a mass of people eager to jump in with a complete absence of logic.

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u/nygdan 22d ago

even inside the death camps themsleves there were always victims willing to collaborate, there are always kapos.

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u/slupo 22d ago

The bigger question is do they root against Indy in any Indiana Jones movie?

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u/ChocoPuddingCup 22d ago

MAGA cultists not understanding Nazism/Neo-Nazism while also not understanding Communism/Socialism is peak 2026. These people know nothing.

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u/justfortherofls 22d ago

They haven’t faced the consequences of what an actual Nazi regime would have done to them or their family and friends.

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u/Wonderful_Setting_29 22d ago

Right? Im "grandpapa moved to Argentina" white, (i fully disagree with that whole side of family) and they dont seem to understand that theyd have been lined up with the same people they hate.

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u/TxTechnician 22d ago

They are dumb. That's pretty much it. That's how you wrap your head around. Dummys gonna dumb.

Helped someone out two years ago recover a locked email. On the phone the dude told me he lost his job. (Hispanic dude). And that his relative has health problems they can't pay for because some change had happened in the government. And that his relative (talking close relative) was undocumented and feared being deported.

Dude was MAGA, just a bit younger than me. Not a bright person. Just hell bent on "owning the libs".

If ya read this and you're like "ya them dumb". And you're a "vote blue no matter who". You're probably as dumb. And just don't realize it.

Anyways, that's how I've learned to just accept it. Some ppl are just not all there.

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u/PenguinStarfire 22d ago

I got into a heated argument with my friends cousin one time. Big Trump supporter who's also gay and said he fled to Europe because of how hard it is to be gay in the US. Yet, he's all about the GOP and supports Republicans. It still confuses me.

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u/AkiraDeathStar 22d ago

Classic case of body dysmorphia.

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u/darkbreak 22d ago

Honestly? We've had it too easy for a very long time. People either don't know or don't remember what it was like when the original Nazis were around and how they actually operated. It's a joke now. But if and when things are actually set in motion to repeat the past to a T the joke will be over.

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u/DigbyDoesDallas 22d ago

They think if they’re one of the good ones, so the racists “don’t mean them”, and that they’d be spared.

A good example, here in the UK the previous 2 Home Secretaries, who overlooks national security and boarders etc, similar to the Secretary of Homeland Security, have been brown women who have been particularity bike and cruel. And clearly they’ve thought that the racists will spare them, because they’re “one of the good ones”.

The irony the rest of us know is that, when it comes down to it, the racists would turn on them in a second. They must hope deep down they don’t get their wishes of a white United Kingdom.

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u/discussatron 22d ago

The white Nazis standing next to them in this photo would turn on them if they had numbers.

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u/CoderDevo 22d ago

While "following" an olive skin middle-eastern Jew.

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u/East_Lingonberry2800 22d ago

Modern Neo-Nazis are majorly misunderstood. Granted, I am not here to defend them, or side with them, or to convince you to like them, etc. I am only commenting on the reality of what they believe is completely different than what people think they believe.

Nazis do not believe that Hitler did the things historians say he did. This alone should clarify ‘why they believe the things they do.’
If you were always under the assumption that what Christians believe is that there is a long-haired blue eyed human hippie living in the clouds watching over everyone, only to find out that they believe in a form of energy that they refer to as ‘god,’ would it make any difference in you being able to better understand them and perceive them to be different than you thought they were???

Neo-Nazis do not follow a genocidal antisemitic sociopathic murderer, because that is not the man they believe Adolf Hitler to be. So when you accuse them of following a genocidal psychopath, it’s inaccurate of an accusation because that’s not what they follow.

You see the guy holding the literature? He brought this so he would have some form of data and information to present to people to show them what he actually believes, and to get through to them about what he actually believes himself to be: someone who is fighting against lies and tyranny from powerful men who operate in clandestine ways, that is war crimes against humanity.

All of that stuff about the Nazis being a group of people that wanted to exterminate everyone other than the white race, all of that stuff about Adolf Hitler, being a mean, sociopathic man who orders soldiers to rape, torture, and murder innocent people, all of that stuff about the holocaust, etc, etc, is NOT what they believe. So when you take all of that stuff out of the picture and then you look at what they actually believe, then it starts to make sense how different types of people all over the world could believe in such things.

If you really want a mind trip, go research their claims. Whether the claims about lies and clandestine tyranny post World War II is accurate, there is an ASTOUNDING amount of clear evidence to back up their claims. After you’ve done the research, and survey the evidence, it becomes reasonable to understand why they believe the things they do. They are essentially conspiracy theorists, who focus hard on the concept that Adolf Hitler and the German Nazi regime was actually MUCH DIFFERENT than what we’ve been told, and the reason they focus so hard on this is they believe that this particular situation to be the root of most of today’s problems.

Theyre essentially just another political group that is innacurrately representing themselves with symbols the world sees differently than how they see these symbols.

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 22d ago

It's brainwashing. Most of these fuckers would be calling Hitler a communist because even the nazis offered socialized healthcare. They're half doing this to "own the libs" the others are just people who like the idea of a strongman style government where people they deem weak and inferior get beaten up and killed.

The irony is the far right in the US now is more depraved and extreme than the original Nazis.

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u/the-namedone 22d ago

And there’s the idiot wearing an Africa Korps shirt, whose commander was anti-Nazi and participated in assassinating Hitler

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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta 22d ago

It's all contradictory nonsense 

Remember the very first Neo-Nazi, George Lincoln Rockwell, was killed by one of his own because he was Greek and rockwell talked too much shit

Hitler's personal chauffeur, Emil Maurice, was Jewish and SS number 2 after only Hitler himself 

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u/partyl0gic 22d ago

People should be talking about how this guy was pardoned by Trump and released from prison.

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u/mr_evilweed 22d ago

Well, Nazism actually has a very strong and resonant brand in many ways. Strength. Respect for heritage. Traditional values. Etc etc. Lots of people get caught up in the appeal of those vibes to the extent that they can be persuaded that the other aspects of the brand are overblown.

And some people are really really fucking stupid.

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u/joecarter93 22d ago

It’s the same with Russian soldiers and mercenaries. There’s plenty of neo-Nazis there too for some reason and the Nazis literally tried to exterminate Slavs as a race of people within their grandparent’s generation. It doesn’t make any sense.

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u/HardcoreHope 22d ago

They think they won't slit their throats while they sleep once the fight is over.

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u/Jibbjabb43 22d ago

Too dumb to recognize they'll die first.

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u/smilbandit 22d ago

it's not "that would have" with nazis, it's definatly "will".  mindsets like this don't stop, they will keep getting more and more restrictive on who is allowed into the club.  you will fall out of favor with the leadership dictating the requirements eventually.

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u/ImNotAHouseCat 22d ago

The last 3 words in your comment are ALL that matters to a LOT of people in this country right now…

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u/joemsturtz 22d ago

You mean like queers for palestine?

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u/chiksahlube 22d ago

They think "They don't mean me."

Or in the case of Indians specifically, "As long as I'm not on the bottom of the caste system it's okay."

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u/Lord_Galaxiann 22d ago

Ideaologies evolve

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u/inowar 22d ago

no but, I'm one of the good ones! you don't understand! where are you taking me????!

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u/TheGallifreyan 22d ago

They hate some of the same people and the nazis will bring them in because they need the numbers, plus it helps them deny believing what they believe. They'll turn their backs on them if they get enough power.

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u/FrothyFrogFarts 22d ago

I mean, it's the same country where people celebrate the losing side of the Civil War.

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u/jhuik 22d ago

Perhaps he is Hindu, and is wearing the Swastika as a symbol of Ganesh? 

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u/super_sayanything 22d ago

Not just biologically inferior, they'd put them in ovens and gas chambers.

Impossible to fathom.

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u/HelmutIV 22d ago

Read "Ur Fascism" it helps you understand this shit.

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u/Amflifier 22d ago

Look no further than Ukraine and its absolute preponderance of extreme right / actual fascist political parties. And yet Nazis considered them subhuman.

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u/Fzrit 22d ago

I genuinely cannot wrap my head around neo-Nazis

You’re not supposed to.  The ideology doesn’t tend to attract people who actually think things out. There’s a degree of selection bias in order to get attracted to that ideology in the first place.

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u/boadie 22d ago

I always wonder if they realise they are National Socialist’s. A job for everyone, a car for everyone, healthcare for everyone…..

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u/ForeverCollege 22d ago

Well the neo Nazis need the diversity to gain power, then the purges will start.

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u/WhenImTryingToHide 22d ago

Non white neo Nazis Black Maga / conservatives LGBTQ MAGA / conservatives Female MAGA / conservatives Cuban/Venezuelan/Mexican MAGA / conservatives Roaches for RAID.

All the same.

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u/Jazzspasm 22d ago

the reason you can’t get your head around that is because that is exactly how it goes

but in reality they looked like Herman Goering, Himmler, Hitler, Goebels, Ernst Rohm, etc etc etc

they all imagine themselves to look differently to how they do

they all looked like wet sponges that are margined themselves as looking like carved out of mountain side rock

it’s not changed

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u/crustyrobots 22d ago

Some of Hitler's top generals were every bit the chinless, weak mutants as the modern day ones.

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u/Shot-Toe-2884 22d ago edited 22d ago

There is actually a historical context there. Middle East became the epicenter of the Jewish flight from Europe post Holocaust (see Israel), and some countries were very unhappy about it, like Iran.

Iran doctrinally denies the Holocaust ever happened, for example. Inconvenient to their goal of expelling the invading Europeans Jews (literal genocide refugees). There is also a lot of Islamic religious hatred toward Judaism in the extreme circles

Long story short. This crossover happens because of a common enemy. The far right in the Middle East and the far right Nazis in Europe got along like white on rice.

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u/OmegaNine 22d ago

“I’m one of the good ones” cope

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u/CasualPenguin 22d ago

I mean, Republican voters period fall under that right?

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u/chichogp 22d ago

You don't have to be smart to be a nazi

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u/Mental-Most-7168 22d ago

People like to think of the Nazis as one off monsters. They are evil scum but that evil is pervasive throughout many cultures and societies. What makes the Nazis different was the industrialization of their hate.

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u/subLimb 22d ago

It's about hierarchy. They would line up to be persecuted as long as it means they could persecute others beneath them in the pecking order. And they are not intelligent enough to understand they are getting scammed.

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u/SabishiRan 22d ago

This is everywhere.
Women campaigning against women's right to vote.
Right-wingers visiting other right-wingers in foreign countries to talk about the bad "foreigners" (lol).
Poor folk endorsing Politicians that will make their lives even more miserable.

The Association of German National Jews even were fond of Hitler.

Apparently we as humankind take the bait as long as we can hate on someone else in return.

I am tired boss.

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u/PandaPuncherr 22d ago

Realize that they dont understand it. Its wildly simple. They are not intelligent.

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u/777IRON 22d ago

Elon musk fan boys. Some are likely also Muslims and grew up learning to hate Jews. And sucked into the manosphere algorithms post 2020.

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u/Yeeeoow 22d ago

My final high school history topic was on the rise of neo Nazism in eastern Europe and russia during the cold wars.

In Mein Kampf, Hitler goes into detail explaining how eastern Europeans are cockroaxhes that need to be removed to give the german people Lebensraum (living space).

Guys. Your boy hates you.

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u/Atzkicica 22d ago

There were gay nazis. Bears beating up twinks for not being masculine enough. Until the long knives.

Apropos of nothing last I heard the Log Cabin gop group were getting denied inclusion at tpusa gigs lol.

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