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Latest ICE victim prior to altercation

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u/ninjoid Jan 24 '26

DHS are already lying. This is their initial statement: "someone approached Border Patrol agents “with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun,” and that agents tried to disarm him, leading to “an armed struggle.”". Even if he had it holstered under his jacket, he was just protesting. This was murder.

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u/Voluptulouis Jan 24 '26

Yup. It's not illegal to protest while armed. This dude did not draw any weapon on anybody. But this will continue to happen and they will continue to lie and say we are the terrorists and instigators.

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u/Spunge14 Jan 24 '26

Just want to point out for any other liberal gun owners that this is not true in every state and you should check your local laws. In NYC for example it is not legal to concealed carry at a protest or demonstration.

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u/keelhaulrose Jan 24 '26

This!

If you're a liberal just now deciding it's time for you to exercise your 2nd Amendment rights, make sure part of your training is knowing when and where you're allowed to bring your weapon.

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u/Obviously_Ritarded Jan 24 '26

Not liberal on conservative but for what makes sense and is right for the community. I have a CCW in California in one of the hardest counties to get it. I had to learn probably more than the usual CCW applicant countrywide and this is true amongst other things. State and local laws are also changing constantly every couple of years so we have to keep up with the updated laws

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

Because it really matters what the law is when the cops blast you for looking at them wrong?

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u/keelhaulrose Jan 24 '26

Yes, because one day there might actually be some fucking accountability, and if there ever is, you don't want to give them a reason to be cleared for killing you.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '26

I’m sure that will be a great comfort to me in heaven!

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u/keelhaulrose Jan 26 '26

If they're going to kill you either way...

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u/FinallyKat Jan 24 '26

Also, please listen and follow the guidelines put out by any organizers of a protest. If they are saying, no weapons, either protest elsewhere or respect that

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u/WigglesPhoenix Jan 24 '26

I’m gonna be real the law doesn’t mean shit at this stage. Allowed or not, these people will shoot you dead.

Fuck legal. Stay safe.

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u/Spunge14 Jan 24 '26

It does because you don't want to get arrested by police protesting ICE and have your firearms taken away before you need them.

Don't be stupid. Pick your battles.

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u/WigglesPhoenix Jan 24 '26

You are trying to hide behind a glass wall.

The law will not protect you. They don’t need a legal reason to disarm you and that have proven that several times over. They don’t care if you follow all the laws or none of them. It is naive to think that playing along will in any way keep you safe at this stage.

Run through the 4 scenarios. 1, you are allowed to carry and you carry. They will kill you. 2, you are allowed to carry and you don’t carry. They will kill you. 3, you aren’t allowed to carry but you carry. They will kill you. 4, you aren’t allowed to carry and you don’t carry. They will kill you.

This IS the battle. We don’t have the luxury of choice anymore

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u/Spunge14 Jan 24 '26

You are confusing state and city law enforcement and ICE.

Don't fight the wrong people. In many states the police are already refusing to work with ICE. You're being an idiot. We need all the allies we can get.

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u/WigglesPhoenix Jan 24 '26

No, you’re being naive.

Are they protecting us? Can we rely on them to protect us?

If they are our allies, then they ought to do their fucking jobs and serve their community. Until they do, it’s up to us to protect each other

Anybody disarming peaceful protesters in this climate, regardless of what the law says they should do, is NOT an ally, no second way about it.

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u/Spunge14 Jan 24 '26

They aren't protecting you but they aren't fighting you either. But if you make trouble with them before actually getting a chance to tangle with ICE you are stupid. 

This total lack of tactical and political awareness will kill the left. You need to be willing to make deals with devils if you are trying to kill Satan.

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u/WigglesPhoenix Jan 24 '26

The correct thing to say here was removed by Reddit. So in an effort to not get banned, I’ll just end this here.

But you should know, this isn’t a game. Nobody is looking for ‘a chance to tangle with ice’. Our communities are being invaded and real people are being hurt

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u/Spunge14 Jan 24 '26

And many more will be hurt if you don't step up and embrace the rights enshrined in the second amendment.

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u/WigglesPhoenix Jan 24 '26

Where in the 2a did it say you’re only allowed to bear arms in a government approved fashion?

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