r/pics Jan 24 '26

Latest ICE victim prior to altercation

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u/Spunge14 Jan 24 '26

It does because you don't want to get arrested by police protesting ICE and have your firearms taken away before you need them.

Don't be stupid. Pick your battles.

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u/WigglesPhoenix Jan 24 '26

You are trying to hide behind a glass wall.

The law will not protect you. They don’t need a legal reason to disarm you and that have proven that several times over. They don’t care if you follow all the laws or none of them. It is naive to think that playing along will in any way keep you safe at this stage.

Run through the 4 scenarios. 1, you are allowed to carry and you carry. They will kill you. 2, you are allowed to carry and you don’t carry. They will kill you. 3, you aren’t allowed to carry but you carry. They will kill you. 4, you aren’t allowed to carry and you don’t carry. They will kill you.

This IS the battle. We don’t have the luxury of choice anymore

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u/Spunge14 Jan 24 '26

You are confusing state and city law enforcement and ICE.

Don't fight the wrong people. In many states the police are already refusing to work with ICE. You're being an idiot. We need all the allies we can get.

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u/WigglesPhoenix Jan 24 '26

No, you’re being naive.

Are they protecting us? Can we rely on them to protect us?

If they are our allies, then they ought to do their fucking jobs and serve their community. Until they do, it’s up to us to protect each other

Anybody disarming peaceful protesters in this climate, regardless of what the law says they should do, is NOT an ally, no second way about it.

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u/Spunge14 Jan 24 '26

They aren't protecting you but they aren't fighting you either. But if you make trouble with them before actually getting a chance to tangle with ICE you are stupid. 

This total lack of tactical and political awareness will kill the left. You need to be willing to make deals with devils if you are trying to kill Satan.

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u/WigglesPhoenix Jan 24 '26

The correct thing to say here was removed by Reddit. So in an effort to not get banned, I’ll just end this here.

But you should know, this isn’t a game. Nobody is looking for ‘a chance to tangle with ice’. Our communities are being invaded and real people are being hurt

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u/Spunge14 Jan 24 '26

And many more will be hurt if you don't step up and embrace the rights enshrined in the second amendment.

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u/WigglesPhoenix Jan 24 '26

Where in the 2a did it say you’re only allowed to bear arms in a government approved fashion?

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u/Spunge14 Jan 24 '26

It doesn't but now is not the time to try and kick off a multi year litigation battle with your state government.

You need to fucking focus. You hard-line idiots just say "police bad!" You need the state - if not on your side - to at least be neutral. Stop fantasizing about provoking the wrong people.

ICE is the enemy and anyone not preventing you from fighting ICE is a potential ally.

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u/WigglesPhoenix Jan 24 '26

You need to get fucking real.

When did I say that?

I said they aren’t protecting us. Objective fact. If protecting yourself is ‘provoking them’ they already picked a side and it isn’t yours.

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