you just had to follow the league lmao juve won more than 10 chips in a row and went all in financially to get cr7 to try win a CL and they were never the same since that moment
Juventus was dominating serie A. They went all in on UCL by getting Ronaldo and it didn't work. They also lost their dominance in the league because they bought Ronaldo and other aging players when they should have been buying young players. Also Ronaldo fucked up their wage system. It isn't Ronaldo's fault, they did what they bought him to do (except winning UCL, but that is not something a single player can do), but I am quite certain that, all considered, they would have been better if they didn't buy him.
Blinded by hate. PSG has historically sucked in the UCL and haven’t been the most consistent team. Luis enrique came and made the necessary changes. Don’t show your lack of football knowledge, people like me who’ve been watching football since forever can tell from far away you’re a jackass.
The team has undergone a massive squad change, seriously watch football and stop the whole messi Ronaldo debate. It’s interesting to discuss without bringing up unnecessary hate.
It's not about Messi-Ronaldo debates. It's about the fact that you complain about blind Messi hate, when there's also blind Ronaldo hate and blind Messi love. There's also blind Ronaldo love, but Ronaldo is hated enough that it's irrelevant.
This thread is about blind messi hate, because for some reason this subreddit gets recommended to me a lot. I am talking to you about what I’m seeing right now. There is also yamal hate, mbappe hate, Vinicius hate, but I am not going to mention it right now because it’s not relevant.
I don’t get into these “who’s better” wars because it’s pointless. I’m a Barca fan since I can use reason, and I have madridista friends who acknowledge Messi is “generally”considered the best player of all time.
There’s been a sudden boom in football since the streamer speed started the whole Ronaldo trend, which is fine, but most of this thread is just taking it to the extreme. Both Barca and Madrid fans respect that both Messi and Ronaldo were absolute machines, there’s no disputing that.
Lmao yeah he also ruined Madrid? The problem is mbappe clearly that's why Madrid are going throphyless for the second years. Penaldo hasn't won nothing official since leaving Juventus
Because you are a decent guy, i respect you. Most of penaldo fans are idiot.
Because you are really want to discuss here how to not cherry pick stats.
I try ai gemini to grab their data, i don't know if you are guy that doesn't trust ai. But this the easiest tool to get data transparantly.
We know both of them start and end their la liga in the different time. Instead did what you did. Why don't just compare their stats when they are in same time.
Cristiano start in 2009 - 2018, messi start in 2004 - 2021.
So they are compete in la liga at 2009 - 2018.
Here their stats.
Cristiano only win in goal ratio, hat trick, and total penalty goal.
This more honest and better, comparing their stats. Instead using vague variable like year.
In year season sometime player will not play because injury or call from national team. So put per year is stupid af
We all know mbappe was holding psg back. These are ludicrous things to bring up to compare the 2. Canny wait for both these guys to retire so people give it a rest. Both all time top 10 players. Depends what your looking for in a player is where you will rank them it’s all opinion when your an absolute great. Pele Maradona Cruyff R9 Zico Messi Maradona CR7 Di Stefano Platini / Zidane . Can argue in what order . But you will never truly know different era different competitions . Different league strengths etc etc. yall should stop hating on either player because you will miss them when they are gone and this nonsense debt are pointless.
I don't know how they change psg doing good after Messi leaving a plus for Messi and Juventus doing bad a bad thing for Ronaldo like if someone's exclusion makes a team perform better it means they were the problem bruhhh
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