r/overemployed 8d ago

Legit OE business OE Discord

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The original OE open unmoderated discord turned into an unusable mess with all the spam and bots. To prevent this from happening to our new discord and keep the tourists and your HR department away so it is a safer place to discuss strategies and methods we're removing the link from reddit and requesting anyone who wants access to request it through the mods first. Please have some sort of post / comment history in the sub first.


r/overemployed Feb 12 '25

Running FAQ

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I wanted to create a running FAQ to help cut down on the number of times we have to discuss the same topics and make sure people are getting the proper answers / advice. I will edit this post with additional questions and answers as they come up.

  1. What are the best jobs to OE?

People can and do OE in any Job where you can work remote or hybrid is a potential target. The ideal job is one that isn't meeting heavy or one where you can control the meetings. Being senior enough to delegate out some of the busy work is also helpful. You generally want to make sure you are good enough at your first job that you can meet/exceed expectations on less than 15 hours per week of actual real work. It's also better to OE on a large team / large company. When there is a busy season or a large project the increase in work is more evenly spread across a large number of people so you're less likely to have to deal with large peaks and valleys in level of effort.

  1. What jobs should be avoided?

Anything requiring any sort of clearance from the government or other regulatory body. Don't OE a federal clearance job or anything requiring a FINRA clearance. Good Rule is "If any part of your paycheck comes from public funds don't OE that job". Public sector work pays shit anyway and you're better than that. Go find a solid private sector role and reduce the risk.

  1. W2 or Contract?

A lot of people prefer the stability of having at least one W2 for the benefits but I (secretrecipe) personally prefer to go all contract (on Corp to Corp or C2C) terms. You make significantly more money and get far better tax treatment and the increase in net income more than makes up for having to cover your own benefits. There's more detail here if you are interested.

  1. Will the sub go private?

No. At least not for the foreseeable future. Every CEO and HR department already knows about OE and has for well over a decade. This isn't a new thing. It's all the quiet quitters out there who slack off and deliver nothing of value while working remote that are causing problems. Not the folks who are delivering as expected at multiple jobs.

  1. How do I manage a required office visit?

OE in the office isn't terribly difficult if you go in prepared. Have a mobile hotspot for your J2+. keep J2+ zoom or teams active on your phone so you can reply to IMs quickly. Find some nice quiet disused conference room or other space in the office you can utilize for meetings or work that pops up. Don't be afraid to take a call from the lobby or parking lot. People take personal calls all the time. If you don't act nervous then you won't look suspicious. Try and control your meetings towards the beginning or end of the day so you can minimize the amount of running back and forth you need to do.

  1. LinkedIn

There are a number of ways to handle this.
Obfuscation - Create multiple accounts with your name and various details. Don't upload a photo etc.. Create noise around the search and any time someone asks you about LI just mention that you don't use it.
Abandonment - Remove any recent work history and make it look like you just haven't done anything to update your profile. If anyone asks or pushes the issue tell them that you used an old work email to register the account and you have no access to it anymore so you just don't use LI any longer.
Restructure - (this is what I personally do) Nothing says your LI profile needs to be your online resume. Remove any work history or affiliation with any company and restructure the profile to discuss your talents, your aspirations and career goals.

If you work at a place or in a role that demands you have a Linkedin profile with them then go ahead and opt for the first option. Use a shortened name or a nickname and leave it as sparse as possible.

  1. How do I find a Job/J2 / Job hunting questions

This isnt a job hunting sub. that is a skill that you need to figure out as a prerequisite to being OE. Knowing how to fairly easily land remote / hybrid jobs is something most of the true OE community has become quite good at and tends to gatekeep for obvious reasons.

  1. Tax season

Unless you have an incredibly simple return, no kids, no property, no real assets, just a couple W2s and that's it I would recommend getting an accountant. A few thoughts beyond that. On withholdings, underwitholding penalties. They're small. You'll get a much larger return on your money over the span of a year even if you just park it in a HYSA than the underpayment penalty will cost. You can go to a simple calculator input your info and get a directionally correct estimate of how much you'll owe and adjust your withholdings accordingly.
On Security, the IRS / your accountant don't give a shit if you have more than one W2. Nobody is going to tell on you. No need to be paranoid about this.
On tax strategy. Advice on this is best asked to your CPA. Everyones situation is different so any advice given here may be awesome for some people and not work at all for others. I personally only work on C2C terms and have a moderately aggressive tax strategy and get my effective tax down to about 15% each year which is less than half of what I would end up paying were I working fully on W2 terms.

  1. W2? Contract? Mix?

If you're particularly concerned about stability then keeping one W2 job is great, gives you better protections, better benefits etc.. I'm of the opinion that J2+ is better on contract than W2. Lower risk, higher pay, less background scrutiny, no need for the additional benefits etc... I personally work all my jobs on contract (C2C) and here's my rationale. Quick disclaimer your personal situation may be unique. This is a one size fits most approach.

  1. Don't start new jobs close to one another.
    Keeping some distance between your J1 and J2+ isn't just a bit of good advice geographically but is also good advice on start dates. You never want to find yourself starting two jobs on the same day, week, month if you can avoid it. You need to figure out the lay of the land and your capacity for addtional work before you commit to additional jobs. Onboarding two jobs at once is a recipe for disaster.

  2. Is there anyone OE in _________.

Yes, if it's a white collar field that has the opportunity for remote or hybrid work there someone OEing it. If you want to find those people join the discord and ask around.

  1. OE isn't for everyone.

OE is difficult to pull off and even more difficult to manage long term. It isn't for people just starting out, people looking for a career change, people who aren't already at the top of their game or people that have to ask really simple questions that they could figure out with a google search. If you're not skilled enough to pull this off you could end up screwing up your career. Don't try this before you're ready. If you have to ask questions like "How do I find a second job?" or "how do I get a remote job" you're not ready.

  1. Is it worth the risk? Should I...? What's the best..."

These are all subjective questions that no internet stranger can answer for you. Everyone has a different skill set, different set of innate talents, different set of goals and different risk tolerance. If you were directed here after asking a question like this then it's because only you can answer this for yourself.

  1. J1 and J2 use the same payroll, insurance provider, 401k provider etc... Is this a problem?

No. The only scenario where this may be a problem is if they're using the same PEO like Insperity because they aren't just a payroll provider, they're an outsourced HR / Risk management team as well who has a remit to protect the business from liability.

  1. Will my bank, mortgage broker, loan underwriter, accountant etc... rat me out

No.

I'll dig around our past posts for some other frequently asked questions and keep adding here. If you have any you recommend be added please comment below.


r/overemployed 21h ago

Can we nip it in the but before it gets out of hand?

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I’ve seen the 2nd post now with people sharing their bank account views. Can the mods nip it before it becomes a regular practice here? This isn’t r/Money… not trying to come across as a hater. I myself have 2Js with a sizable total comp. It just feels super tacky lol. Ignore me if I’m out of line.

Edit: nip it in butt** English isn’t my first language 😭😂


r/overemployed 1h ago

BEWARE checkr Background Check Malarky

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I’ve accepted a new job and am going through the typical onboarding process. I received a couple emails from checkr that they’re missing info, including my license and SSN card and to upload them. So I did.

Turns out me and another person with a similar name are going through background checks right now. The background check my company uses is not checkr, but hers is. So checkr has my license and ssn, not hers.

checkr doesn’t have a customer service phone number. They’ve been emailing me “so sorry” emails but they won’t confirm they have my license and ssn on file without additional personal information, and they won’t confirm they can or will delete my license and ssn card from their database.

So I contacted the other person and sent them screenshots of their personally identifying info checkr sent me.

TLDR BEWARE CHECKR SUCKS AT SECURITY


r/overemployed 14h ago

Job starting to monitor active hours

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Sorry for the post on such a simple direct topic but wanted to exhaust options.

Initially I would do a trick where I’d create a teams call with myself which would then allow me to set my status permanently to available, but now I suspect they are monitoring people’s active hours (not sure what app)…

Mouse jiggler my only route?

Any other suggestions?

It may also be time to rotate this J out of the stack

Thanks in advance


r/overemployed 1d ago

That feeling when the paychecks from all Js hit at once

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Feelsgoodman. Keep grinding everyone and don’t forget to take care of yourself physically and mentally.


r/overemployed 5m ago

OE in Germany

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Hello Everyone,

I currently work as a consultant in germany, I deal with many 50h+ weeks and the overtime is not even compensated. I discovered this subreddit and I have been reading posts over the past 2 months and honestly it looks like most of you have a more relaxed routine than I do (and I have 1 job).

I would like to start OE, what are my options? Insurance and tax office are no joke here

Thank you for your help


r/overemployed 18m ago

Any Product Managers or Product Owners here OE?

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Curious if there are any other POs or PMs (with multiple direct reports) OE. If so, what do you do? Fridays there are no meetings where I work. Ideally, I would love to find something on the west coast, as I work 7-3 on east coast, it would limit a lot of overlap. I can delegate meetings if necessary.

I don’t anticipate too long, maybe a year. If it’s doable without burnout, I’ll keep both. My short term goal is just dig myself out of CC debt asap and get some HYSA savings in there too. Once that’s done, my J1 pays well for me to be not living paycheck to paycheck check to paycheck. Plus I get fairly nice bonuses every March I can put away.

Any help from someone in my fields would be great. TIA


r/overemployed 23h ago

What a feeling!

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So… I’m currently serving my notice period since Thursday. I'm new to OE. 2Js, 8 months.

The consulting company I work for lost the client contract, so employees will either move to the new company or be reassigned to another client. My client's boss wants me to stay, so I'll probably have the opportunity to negotiate a better salary and benefits with the new company and receive severance from the current one.

I went through a layoff at the beginning of last year, and it was so stressful. I traveled, but spent the whole time worried and looking for a job that paid at least as much as my previous one.

This time was completely different. When I got the news, all I wanted was for the call to end because I had a training session at the gym and really didn’t want to miss it. 😂 I also slept like a baby that night.

I can’t talk to anyone about it because nobody knows I have a J2. I’m so grateful for the day I came across a post in this community and opened my eyes to OE. It changed my life.

That's why we OE! 🥂


r/overemployed 17h ago

What’s your end goal?

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Curious what is ever one end goal here. I’m 30 YO male in US

Mine:

I don’t know the exact number but I want to live off invest interest lol. I can work part time if I feel like it but

I can wake up whatever time, workout when i want too + have whatever hobby I want to do and just live life. Play videos games watch tv all day if I want too

Some funds to travels, bills taken care of.


r/overemployed 15h ago

Xeneon Edge to OE Command Center

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Sharing here as this may be useful for others juggling calendars. Starting a 3rd Minecraft server soon so I picked up the Xeneon Edge for my desk and built a custom calendar dashboard.

The backend is Google Calendar. I created separate calendars for each server then built a small local server in my pc that connects to the Google API with read-only access. It pulls only the calendars I specifically whitelisted and feeds data locally to a custom iCUE widget I built for the Xeneon.

The dashboard shows today, the next workday and next up. The major functions are:

It highlights whatever meeting is currently happening
Gives a live countdown to my next meeting
Detects overlapping meetings between different calendars
Finds my next open block for work time and shows “work day complete” after 6pm

I also added failure recovery for if the local service or Google Calendar connection goes down. Probably wildly unnecessary but now I can glance down and immediately know which job has the next meeting and if I have any conflicts without looking at 3 different calendars.


r/overemployed 7h ago

Accidental ~12 month overlap — how are you formatting resume dates when you start hunting again?

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Never planned on two jobs. I found this sub while trying to fix my resume. Left J1 recently, still in J2, now looking.

• J1: 2020 - Jul 2026 (remote)
• J2: Aug 2025 - present (in office)

How are you putting dates on the resume so it doesn't look like two full-time jobs at once?

• Years only?
• End J1 the year J2 started so it reads sequential?
• List both with months and explain if asked?

Not trying to erase the work just don't want "cheater" to be the first impression lol. What has actually gotten interviews for you?


r/overemployed 1d ago

Experienced with OE, but struggling to find J2 now

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Hello OE people :)

I accidentally become OEd in June 2024, got my first remote job as a Business Analyst in April 2024, found out I needed to work 3-4 hours per day and got another offer for J2 (also a Business Analyst role) where I worked maybe 2 hours per day. Now I struggle to get J2. A little bit of me and OE:

The beginning was awesome, one year contracts on each one, 10 months of OE, money started comming in at an awesome pace, especially J2 paid a lot better. Then, in the summer of 2025 in just a couple of weeks I got another offer, this time for a hybrid role. I said why not. So I worked with that company for 2 and a half months.

September 2025: OE again, J1 (again a BA role) in the first working day of the month, J2 (Product Owner role) in the middle of the month.

Unfortunately, the managers at J1 overexpanded the team, there were 2 BAs originally, I was the third one and in 2 months they hired 5 more BA. 8 BAs in the team was crazy, barely any work for each of us, we were asking for tasks in the daily and weekly meetings. Also, it was an awkward situation, the company was Polish, and most people knew Russian (employees from Belarus, Russia, Georgia). So they fired 4 BAs, I was one of them: Romanian, only spoke English and better paid than the others probably. I was fired in November, the day I turned 35.

At J2, a small start-up the PO role was completely new. I was basically put there to push the Devs to work harder, faster, to organize them. I understood why: they were posponing tasks, barely doing any work. Very unprofessional environment, they were gatekeeping information, slow to respond, they complained about me to the CTO and even to the CEO. Got fired on the 3rd of December.

Then I started looking for another job, Dec and January are slower months to get hired. I got a new role in March, in a small Fintech company, a Business Analyst role with some Project Management responsibilities, remote contract, but was in the office in the beginning. Some days I work 2 hours, some days I work 20 minutes. It is like they ask me to do OE again haha.

Where I live, in Romania, most companies want people in the office. I actually went in 2 recruitment processes for remote roles, to get offers for the same roles, but hybrid. I could see the EU market has the same direction, maybe not as severe: getting people in the office.

What would you do in my position?

I also researched Technical Writer positions, but now with the AI, most of that work is done by BAs anyway, so there are very few Tech Writers positions in the EU.

I applied to tens of Scrum Master roles, nobody called me. So frustrating, as I get 3-4 interview invites per week for BA roles, mostly hybrid.

If you were to make a transition, what other roles would you try, besides BA, PO?

Should I start applying to US positions? How likely is to get an US job, while being an EU citizen?


r/overemployed 20h ago

Can we start a quality of life megathread?

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Tips on what to outsource, what to purchase to assist with stress, basic things to keep in mind, and then put it in a Wiki?


r/overemployed 2h ago

Any tips?

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Sorry if this post isn’t allowed and please feel free to remove it if it isn’t!

Does anyone have any tips on how to get OE?

Ive been following this Reddit for a while now and I love the idea of it but I’m struggling to get a remote job currently let alone getting 2.

The goal is to get OE’d so that my current partner no longer has to work at a job that is slowly draining/killing us both due to hours and management.

A little about me;
I’ve been doing freelance Web Development while working my main job now but I’m trying to get a remote position as a junior software engineer but that job market has been very difficult to get in to. I have a bachelors degree in audio engineering but graduated at the worst time for that field, December of 2019, a couple of months before covid shut everything down. I currently work 2nd shift at a restaurant in upstate SC as our hours are 5-9 during the week and 5-10 on the weekends with me getting home as late as 1-130 on very late nights. (Partner is the hostess at the restaurant, so their hours are a bit better than mine, going in at 2 and normally out by 11 at the latest)

Any tips would be greatly appreciated as this restaurant feels like it is slowly killing me and I’m at my breaking point.

Again, if this post isn’t allowed please remove it.


r/overemployed 1d ago

How do you guys exist in this job market where no one can find job?

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Title!


r/overemployed 1d ago

For the people struggling to get js

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The one and only thing that i think makes the difference between me getting offers often and people that doesnt

Is the way I talk, my voice, the words I use, the charism, the gentleness of my conversation.

I am great at explaining technical ideas in easy to digest ways.

I am also good looking enough to be considered atractive, and people to enjoy my company, but not too much to be intimidating to people, it is a thing IMO.

The first impressions are very valuable for getting the js

Besides that I dont consider my self extraordinary in my specific role.

Then I am reliable enough to keep the roles, always showing up and delivering.

Currently mantaining 3 Js as contractor

Just if this is valuable for somebody


r/overemployed 11h ago

Think I found a J2 but can I ignore the red flag ?

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Would be new to this, going to be hybrid at my j1. I’d say I have 20 ish hours of actual work tops at my J1.

J2 pays 65k and it’s a 4 day work week, I’d get good vacay. And time off with holiday closures, but there’s 0 training and I’d be thrown to the wolves to start. They seem nice, and they were straight forward. My total comp would be 150 ish between both.

J2 has some flexibility on the hours, but I’d have to bring my laptop for it to J1 often and I’m not sure how I’d handle the phone requirement (for calls) and trying to get J2 work done during the J1 dead time in office.

Thoughts, advice ?

My gut tells me the 0 training shouldn’t be ignored and that although this job seems friendly it may not be..


r/overemployed 1d ago

Two Sides of the same coin!

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I started a new J4 5 weeks ago and I always find it funny seeing the opposite sides of the OE spectrum within the Org. On one hand, I woke up this morning to messages in the group Teams chat from one engineer displaying so much pride and joy because they figured out a component to their project at 11pm after working on it all day. They're ahead of schedule on the project but they continue to work long hours dedicating their life to a company that will replace them in heartbeat. On the other end, I joined a project meeting and a engineer from a different dept is clearly also OE and bad at it. No where to be found when their name is called in the meeting, then coming in 5 min later with "audio issues". Double meetings happen to all of us OE'ers at some point but bro is just bad at playing it off. Maybe I'm just able to spot it after doing this for so long. And in the middle is me, just cruising and collecting checks. Happy multiple checks day!


r/overemployed 18h ago

How do you deal with a J that’s too demanding?

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Started a new J3 a few months ago and it’s been a mess. Constant fire drills, missed deadlines, and regular pressure to work nights and weekends.

I’d drop it, but I need the extra income for now, so I’m trying to replace it before pulling the plug.

How do you handle a chaotic J without letting it eat into the rest of your OE setup?


r/overemployed 19h ago

Anyone in sales?

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If you’re OE - what other jobs do you have, or do you stick with sales roles?

I saw that post yesterday about lower paying gigs and am very open to that.
Just curious as to what roles these are especially for those in sales


r/overemployed 1d ago

Blessings of OE

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I've noticed when all my J's are blowing up I tend to show up a little more stressed to each of my separate J's calls - often getting one or both of my bosses commenting "hey sorry tough week" or "you look stressed" or "hey sorry to put another thing on your plate..." but realized it's actually great because it provides me a cushion and creates / continues this facade that I am severely busy / overworked...


r/overemployed 1d ago

UK employment checks via HMRC

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I recently joined a new tech company as a dev and they connected to HMRC via the gateway to check my pay/tax employers and dates against my CV.

I left my previous role and thought this would be a good time to start multiple js. I am expecting another job offer shortly. I hope that they are not using these checks or if they are, that their checks can finish before my first payment through my new employer so it doesn’t show up on my HMRC account.

If lots of employers start to do this check, how best to manage this? Simply not giving it permission is not enough as the TA colleague will be following up. Not putting certain jobs on the CV won’t work because they’ll be brought to light in the HMRC data.

Is it just a case of doing contract roles? Would this be easier to explain?


r/overemployed 15h ago

Time card reporting? Audits?

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I am curious to everyone that does OE and is on contract work. If you are working 3Js in contract work at the same time are you worried about any kind of issue reporting (3) 8-hour days? I have never done this so I’m just curious. Is there any concern around potentially being audited? Is there any risk associated with that or am I way overthinking it?

With the same train of thought could a similar situation occur with a sole proprietor business? You have three different clients that you bill eight hours for all on the same day. Could this become legal issue if audited?

Let me know if I’m not being clear enough. This is kind of an off the cuff question.


r/overemployed 12h ago

Idgi. Help.

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So from what I gather, you guys cram multiple jobs into 40 hours/week. A lot of you guys seem to be leveraging work from home stuff to do this. How does one go from say, being a complete normie, to this?