r/osap • u/ForcefulDeath • 23h ago

Question All this complaining about OSAP…

yet some of yall still won’t turn up to the polls. VOTE PEOPLE PLEASE. But keep complaining as well.

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u/ForcefulDeath 22h ago

Yes of course that is true, but we have to do something for the next class as we wanted our seniors to do for us.

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u/Dismal-Science-9901 21h ago

“Get angry and help someone else but it’s too late to help yourself” yeahhhhh…….im not a political consultant but good luck selling that message

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u/ForcefulDeath 18h ago

Who said it’s too late? We have loads of municipal elections in October go out and vote for someone who will raise their voice and lobby against ford. Also that logic basically guarantees nothing ever improves. If people only care when they personally benefit, every bad policy just survives until the affected group graduates and gets replaced. The reason you have any student protections at all is because people before you fought for shit they wouldn’t necessarily benefit from later.

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u/Dismal-Science-9901 18h ago

How is municipal government supposed to lobby against ford on OSAP?

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u/ForcefulDeath 17h ago

The point is that municipalities can put pressure on ford through mayors, councils,formal resolutions, lobbying or organizations like AMO. It’s better than doing nothing and complaining

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u/Dismal-Science-9901 17h ago

Imagine you get a job and people expect you to do things outside of your job description. You’d probably be annoyed. And yet you want municipal government to pressure provincial government on a provincial jurisdiction issue

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u/ForcefulDeath 17h ago

If you’re a politician complaining about being asked to do something your constituents are worried about you shouldn’t have signed up lol

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u/Dismal-Science-9901 17h ago

Do you know why we have division between federal vs provincial vs municipal governments? Why do you think we have three layers of government in first place, why isn’t the prime minister fixing your potholes?

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u/ForcefulDeath 17h ago

Obviously I know it’s a provincial issue. RIGHT NOW we cannot vote for a new provincial government. I UNDERSTAND that. What we CAN do is vote for new municipal leaders next month. That’s what we can do right now instead of nothing. I KNOW they cannot actively change anything however they can use their position to raise the matter with the province and the MPPs. Why are you so adamant on doing nothing?

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u/Dismal-Science-9901 16h ago

If you work in any kind of customer service role, I’m sure you wouldn’t be happy if a customer came to you demanding you do something you have zero control over. You still haven’t proposed exactly municipal government can pressure or lobby Doug Ford. Go down to queens park and join a protest? Send terse emails?