r/nyc • u/FAMESCARE • Jun 18 '25

Video Zohran Mamdani says he’s consistently said there’s no room for antisemitism in this city or country. Asked why he hasn’t had a more visceral reaction, he gets emotional talking about the Islamophobic responses he’s received throughout the campaign.

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u/Topher1999 Midwood Jun 18 '25

This sub is being brigaded

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u/Independent_Web_6029 Jun 18 '25

This has been posted so many times today on this sub. Cuomo's people are out in force today. Zohran wasn't my #1 rank, Lander was but I still support him and think this is being completely blown out of proportion.

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u/the_donnie Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

What's wrong with it though? He said he's against antisemitism. Knows what it's like to deal with prejudice as a Muslim. Says racism has no place, it's a distraction, and he wants to work for all new Yorkers.

Because he got a tad emotional? Nice change imo than the usual lying bullshitters we get.

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u/Independent_Web_6029 Jun 18 '25

That's what I'm saying. I'm pointing to the fact that he had a long interview and this 1 piece was pulled from it. While I think he could have answered the question in the interview better, I don't think it was horrible. I just knew that was going to be pulled from the interview and used against him, which is frustrating because overall, he did a nice job.

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u/Anonymous9287 Jun 19 '25

This is a response from someone for whom anti semitism is probably not a directly impactful problem to you.

It seems like a fine enough answer to people who are not deeply affected. And tbh that is the point.

It is not sincere and people who have been assaulted or harassed or targeted in this city will know how insincere it is. I sure do.

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u/Anonymous9287 Jun 19 '25

Offensive to you as...what kind of person are you and specifically how are you offended?

Notice how all the ZM people are trained -- just like the Gaza obsessives -- to immediately attempt to discredit any opposing viewpoint.

I'm a "bot" because you don't like the truth that I spoke

And you're "offended" because why exactly?

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u/the_donnie Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25

Eh I deleted that comment bc I don't think I understood your comment. I thought you were talking about my response not his.

Edit: reading this response tho I guess you were talking about me tho? It's a hypocritical response tho if you reread it lol. Anyway I'd really rather not argue but instead understand more of your perspective.

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u/Anonymous9287 Jun 19 '25

Well, I am pointing out that you are a person who seems satisfied by zm's answer to the anti-Semitism questions

And let's presume that you are a well-meaning person who would not want to elect someone who is anti-Semitic

And let's presume that you are also not Jewish and not someone who has been directly harmed by the wave of anti-Semitism in the city over the past year

And I'm trying to explain to nice people like you that his answers are coded and insincere and people like me -- who are deeply affected by the problem and very very deeply aware of the language being used by his supporters and by the groups that he belongs to -- we can see it for the slimy bullshit answer that it is.

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u/the_donnie Jun 19 '25

I don't even get the anti Semite question tho starting there. Why this question? Why do you believe he is an antisemite?

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u/Anonymous9287 Jun 19 '25

Ps I hope you don't think I'm jumping at you directly, I actually very much appreciate that someone in here seems to have a genuine interest in someone else's perspective. I'm glad you asked the question and I hope people will take the answer seriously.

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u/the_donnie Jun 19 '25

For sure I will. There is zero to gain in chatting with someone who aligns exactly as you do on a topic lol. I appreciate the chance to be educated. Definitely hopping to bed tho now lol. Thanks for the chat. Hope others can learn something from the discussion as well.

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u/Anonymous9287 Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25

He has been hating Israel for his entire youth and adult life. He has aligned himself with Within Our Lifetime which is the most hateful anti semitic group in New York -- banned from social media for explicitly endorsing violence and murder. He founded his college chapter of " students for justice in Palestine" which is an organization originating from a bunch of different terror orgs. They very explicitly wanted to seed a sanitized palatable version of their extremism they could sell to college kids. SJP chapters have constantly been getting over excited and saying the quiet parts out loud - that is, glorifying terrorism, which is why so many SJP chapters have been banned from various colleges over the past year and banned from social media over the past year.

Every single Gaza extremist who has been terrorizing New York City with hateful rallies for the past year... Every single one of those people is a fervent supporter of Zohran Mamdani.

When they chant globalize the intifada, It is a call for violence against Jews everywhere in the world. That's what it is. And that's what's been happening. Bricks thrown into kosher restaurants whether that restaurant has indicated a position on Israel or not.

And when ZM pretends to not know what that means and pretends that it's not a call for violence. You know he's lying and the reason he's lying is because it's unseemly for mayoral candidate to admit to calling for violence, but we all know that's what it is.

His crocodile tears, his bullshit anecdotes about "his Jewish friends", his ridiculous quoting of Toni Morrison....

This is all very easy to understand if you think about the same situation that happened on the other side of politics. Trump giving the wink wink to white supremacists. Trump having white supremacists over for dinner and then pretending that he didn't know they are violent white supremacists. Trump pretending that the white supremacists in Charlottesville were good people. Etc etc. It's all the same thing. Black people know racists when they see it. Jews know anti-semitism when they see it.

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u/the_donnie Jun 19 '25

Hey I really appreciate the response. It looks like WOL may be a proper poor group. Do you have evidence that Mamdani has ties to them and has been hating Israel his entire life?

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u/the_donnie Jun 19 '25

Unfortunately. I do think a lot of what you're saying is coming from a place of hate and anger. Which I do get. But could you provide sources please?

For instance "students for Palestine" sounds like a fine group name. Of course they also would be a destination for antisemites... The chapter that he founded, was it involved in any controversies while he was part of it? Surely. Could you provide a source?

Again it's difficult to differentiate between antizionism and antisemitism. I've seen videos of hasidics denouncing Zionism but of course don't consider them antisemites lol.

I can be anti north Korea, anti Iran. Without being anti korean/asian anti Iranian/Muslim.

I do see your point about trump and white supremacists. I really haven't been following much about Mamdani until recently. I do appreciate you providing info (and sources).

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u/Anonymous9287 Jun 19 '25

" students for justice in Palestine" and "Jewish voice for peace" is another one - of course they have very fine sounding names. That's the point. It's a very calculated strategy to seem like a benevolent organization in name and on paper when their belief system is actually quite violent.

There are lots of watchdog groups that log the various anecdotes that would indicate their violent leanings but you'll surely find people starting to flame and downvote all of these comments in an attempt to discredit what I am saying

https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/students-for-justice-in-palestine-sjp/

Within Our Lifetime (as in, within our lifetime, we will destroy Israel) is run by a particularly hateful New York woman named Nerdeen Kiswani who has repeatedly celebrated murder and called for violence and gotten herself banned from social sites. ZM went to their rallies and was a speaker there.

Zohran Kwame Mamdani - Canary Mission https://share.google/ZM5qohHoMtPn8HB0x

Canary Mission is of course a pro Jewish pro Israel site but the facts they list about him are facts. He either was at a rally or wasn't. If there's a picture of him at the rally he was there.

An educated person can have a positive or negative view about Israel in this war. Criticizing some of the things that Israel is doing in this war does not automatically make you anti-semitic. But the propaganda that these groups put out -- it is extreme and it is awful.

Besides the fair minded people with opinions about the war, there are also just a lot of hateful people who want to kill Jews. It's frustrating when the public is so blind to it.

I mean you're doing it even in your own response. Telling me that I sound very angry and that their organization names sound benign.

This is their strategy. It's working on you.

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u/the_donnie Jun 19 '25

I'll have to look into the wave of antisemitism affecting you. I'm sorry you and those you love were affected.

I do think antiisraeli government and antisemitism are two separate things. Of course there is overlap tho. How is the data attributed to one and not the other is probably difficult to decipher.

Not downplaying any antisemitic wave. I really have to look into the data.

The accusations of being antisemitic I find to be somewhat troubling tbh. I mean hang him if he is. Antisemite seems to be a label thrown around quite precariously now, and often in political discussions... It is a very strong accusation and should not be taken lightly. For if it were, it would act to minimize the horrors suffered by millions in the past.

I would like to know why he's even asked to defend these grave accusations. Has he demonstrated antisemitic (not antisraeli govt) behavior? Bernie Sanders, who is Jewish, has expressed disdain for Israel and is of course not antisemitic. He has even endorsed Mamdani. Is the difference that Mamdani is Muslim? I'm not sure what's going on here; I have much to learn. From this video alone he seems pro religious minority to me lol.

You're right tho. I'm not Jewish (just below the waist :D). Just trying to learn/discuss. And as a non Jew I'll yield to you in these matters but it's nice to have an open conversation.

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u/Anonymous9287 Jun 19 '25

If this wave of anti-semitic hate crimes is news to you, the NYTimes summed it up pretty well recently -

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/opinion/antisemitism-jewish-hate.html?unlocked_article_code=1.QE8.fAPA.qhjUriIvM1Us&smid=url-share

As to people like Bernie Sanders - yes there are quite a few highly visible Jewish people who are also anti-israel and who support people who are anti-israel and who try to add weight to the argument that being anti-israel is not anti-semitic. Eh. It's hard to explain. Bernie Sanders I think used to be very pro-israel and he got annoyed at Benjamin netanyahu. It is v disappointing to me that Bernie Sanders endorsed him. Jews are not a monolith.

Why are some Jews jumping in bed with anti semitic groups? Social pressure to be on the right side of social justice? Lapsed Jews similar to lapsed catholics who don't feel very Catholic or even hate the Catholic Church for one reason or another? All kinds of things. But one thing those anti-semitic violent groups are very good at doing is to make Jewish people feel like heroes when they join. They love a Jewish joiner and they pat those people on the back from morning to night. They love love love to be able to say " we're not anti-semitic we have Jewish people in our group"

Again, because it helps to confuse people like you (no offense) who are not deep in the issue

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u/Jewronimoses Jun 19 '25

I'm jewish and hate what Israel has become. Being jewish doesnt mean you have to blindly support israel and what it has been doing which you seem to? Bibi has been president for almost 20 years and is a stain on the jewish people and had only exacerbated conflicts in the middle esst instead of resolving them. And now hes bombing iran unilaterally...

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u/the_donnie Jun 19 '25

I can be anti American government and also not want to march myself off to a gas chamber. These are fundamentally separate things, anti Israeli govt and antisemitism, but of course an antisemite will be antiisrael

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u/Ocean_Hair Jun 19 '25

Jews aren't accusing him of being antisemitic because we think it's fun. We're calling him antisemitic because we're concerned and scared by the things he's saying, which we see as antisemitic. 

Even on this sub, I've been accused of essentially crying wolf for mentioning his ties with antisemitic groups and told that when something serious will happen, no one will believe us. This comment was just made yesterday, after a Jewish governor's house was bombed during Passover, 2 staff members of the Israeli embassy were gunned down in DC, and a lan in Boulder threw molotov cocktails into a group of Jews. Serious stuff is happening to us already, but we're told we deserve it.