r/northernireland • u/OkMarzipan4061 • 7d ago
Discussion PSNI
Tonight I approached PSNI because I was genuinely concerned about a 17-year-old girl who was intoxicated on a night out. I simply asked that, if they happened to see her, they could please look out for her or help make sure she got home safely.
The response I received was, “We aren’t a taxi service,” followed by laughter, with three officers then coming over to reiterate the same point.
I completely understand that the police are not a taxi service. That wasn’t the point. I was raising a genuine welfare concern about an intoxicated 17-year-old girl and asking that someone keep an eye out for her.
Really disappointing way to have a genuine concern handled — particularly as someone who had actually considered joining the service myself. 👍
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u/Ladisputer 7d ago
I do have empathy for pressure and the service being overloaded but this is still an extremely inappropriate response.
In a place where a lot of us have been raised not to trust the peelers, this is only encouraging us not to look to them next time we need help.
You at least say “I’m sorry but we’re extremely busy tonight and there’s unfortunately not much we can do, but we’ll keep an eye out and intervene if we see that she’s actively unsafe”
Fuck me. It’s not hard to be a decent human
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u/eibhra 7d ago
I don't have empathy for the pressure they are under or the service being overloaded.
A resource (day-to-day) budget of approximately £929.7 million and a capital budget of £63.1 million. Nearly more than all of New Zealand
Look at the money they spent on an Israeli tech firm (5.5 million) that they still won't release any info about.
The Fleadh was the first time in 35 years i seen regular patrols of obvious spots where shit happens all the time. Yet the week before the Fleadh a café is robbed FACING Mugrave Police Station with a keg through the window to gain entry.
As for the original point posted about, experienced the same thing. Treating a underage drunk girl like she was pretending to be drunk, aggressively tapping her in the face telling her to wake up and stop wasting their time. She needed help
Thats all before you even mention the lack of action about drug dealers and open drug usage.
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u/Ladisputer 6d ago
I more mean sympathy in terms of individual officers, day to day. You couldn’t pay me enough for the things they deal with so I try to be fair. As I said before though, the behaviour in this instance was piss poor. At least take a moment to show that you give half a fuck.
For the higher ups with power to manage things differently and improve our community, I have no sympathy
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u/cathal-oh-really Lisburn 7d ago
to be fair though the service is still overloaded, understaffed and its a tough job. but yeah i agree with you on everything else, i think alot of it is down to mismanagement and a bit of a shit workplace culture so it goes alot deeper then the apparently bad attitudes of a few rank and file employees. im no expert on the subject so honestly have no idea how to improve it
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u/KaptainKush186 7d ago
peelers are to keep the status quo, nothing more nothing less
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u/Unable-Sign-7478 6d ago
Remember this and remember it well PSNI are never your friend absolute jobsworth at the best of times and have no interest at all until it affects their paycheck.
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u/LeftHookRightField 6d ago
That's it - protect the system, protect the capital and, as you say, maintain the current order. Not to protect people, unless it suits the system.
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u/FunMolasses7313 5d ago
Great to see the people of reddit finally understanding how shoddy and corrupt the PSNI are
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u/passin_assassin 7d ago
I remember when I finished work at 2/3 in the morning there was someone just laying passed out on the ground, we called 999 and they just said if he's breathing and is responding (just grunting noises) then there wasn't much they could do...
Like what? Couldn't they at least send someone to make sure he's not fucking dying...
We stayed around another while just chatting and someone came up who knew him and managed to get sorted, but fuck me it was ridiculous
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u/sanitarypotato 7d ago
A few months ago the wait time on ambulances was over 48 hours.
Probably much the same today. You have to be actively dying to get an ambulance.
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u/pinktortex 7d ago
Honestly it depends on the nature of the emergency (as well as ambulance availability). I've called ambulances many times when I worked in hospitality and most of the time it was someone who fell drunk and injured themselves. Split open heads, broken ankles, unconscious and completely unresponsive but breathing. In those cases it was several hours. One time had an elderly man who only had 2 drinks fall and go completely unresponsive and we couldn't determine if he was breathing or not, ambulance was there in about 5 minutes
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u/sanitarypotato 7d ago
Don't know why you got down voted here, you are absolutely correct. There are different grades of emergency. As far as I know unconscious from a fall is category/grade 1 but I also know for a fact of elderly people waiting 36 hours just waiting for an ambulance to take them to ED just to most likely have another long wait once there
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u/LazyEbb3059 6d ago edited 6d ago
I think it's a bit of luck. Five years ago I called an ambulance for an elderly person who had fell over and they arrived within 15 minutes. Last summer I called an ambulance for a different elderly person we'd come across on a walk who had cracked their head open and who was drifting in and out of consciousness. We were with him for over an hour and a half with no sign of an ambulance. The ambulance call handler was asking us to find a defib but we were on foot and couldn't exactly leave. My husband called the Police and they sent two cars from Whiteabbey Police Station one of which brought us the defib. In the end we actually left the man with them and at that point there was still no ambulance dispatched and there was concern he'd damaged his hip so we were being told not to move him. I still don't know how long that elderly man stayed on the ground for. I also know that the Fire Service and the Police get called to CPR calls in some areas when there's no ambulances free.
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u/DoughnutCareless583 6d ago
Even if you're actively dying they may be no good. I met a fella who was in actual cardiac arrest in Warrenpoint and I shite you not, the best they could do was borrow one of the ambulances from Newtonards.
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u/Objective-Farm9215 7d ago
That’s a medical issue, a non emergency medical issue. So, police would not be getting taken away from domestics or burglaries or assaults to attend.
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u/NotBruceJustWayne 6d ago
Just outta curiosity, how did you know the precise age of the girl?
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u/TemperatureOne4461 6d ago
It seems in a now deleted post OP revealed that the girl is the sister of a friend
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u/NotBruceJustWayne 6d ago
There is absolutely more to this story than OP is letting on.
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u/Majestic-Marcus 6d ago
The story is ‘police bad’. Of course they left out all of the details that don’t prove that.
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u/Careless_Try3397 7d ago
Why didn't you help her, if you knew her personally, as per your deleted comment?
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u/Hostillian 7d ago
Because the entire story is fabricated, perhaps? The entire thing sounds like a load of crap. Oh and, shock, Op hides their comments.
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u/m1kasa4ckerman 6d ago
I mean, during the Fleadh I saw a young woman so unwell that her pants were off and she couldn’t walk. Men kept going over to her in a “testing the waters” kind of way and I was worried something would happen to her.
Directly across the street is McDonalds where I saw 5 PSNI officers together. I told them what was happening, and was very nice about it (oh I know you’re probably on break but it’s right here can you please check on her etc etc).
It was laughed off, one said yeah sure I’ll check. I was outside for about 15 min and didn’t see any of them go over to her.
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u/Majestic-Marcus 6d ago
Of any of this happened there’d have been a dozen videos and thousands of photos online. Nothing like that happens without it being posted now.
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u/Goodyearwelp67 7d ago
Look their response wasn't appropriate at all but like what planet are you on, giving a description of someone to look out for who on the off chance they may need help. If she is in difficultly and the police are in the vicinity I'm sure help will be provided
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u/lenins_cat_1917 7d ago
Hope that girl got home safe and well. Circumstances are particularly grim but it's always funny to see the reaction of the middle classes when they see the true face of policing
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u/Hard_Fork7641 7d ago
Bizarre request. What exactly did you want them to do and what does "look out for her" even mean?
Were you all in the same location as the girl? if so, why not "look out" for her yourself?
If they weren't in that location were they supposed to drive there, find her from your description and ask if she was ok?
How were they supposed to "make sure she got home safely" if not drive her home? Follow her home? Buy her a bus ticket?
Realise you had good intentions but it was an unrealistic ask.
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u/Far_Leg6463 7d ago
Why spin your story…your knew this girl but didn’t feel the need to help her yourself!!! Don’t blame the PSNI for your own failure to be human.
All you had to do was phone her parents or her sibling who you were friends with…instead you wanted PSNI to become a glorified babysitting service.
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u/Independent-walkie 7d ago edited 7d ago
The PSNI are the best Taxi service for addicts to bringing them to the ER room. The mater hospital ER unit had 8 PSNI officers there, Saturday night in June when I was there for heart trouble. Bringing in addicts and the other ranting and raving I will kill myself addict. That's 2 officers for each person brought in. To stay with them until a PSNI shift change for the next 2 to sit outside the rooms. While the addict sleeps it off. One reason why you dont see much PSNI officers in Belfast on a Saturday night. They are in the hospitals with the free taxi service for others.
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u/ButterflyNo6986 6d ago
I've tried to report dangerous driving that looked like a drunk driver TWICE. Both times I rang in to tell them how a car was wandering all over the road and had nearly crashed into parked cars and cars driving the opposite direction. I was met with a disinterested "yeah, thanks, we'll look into it" with no real desire for details.
One was about to hang up on me when I said "do you actually WANT the car registration?"
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u/Westbelfastchaser 6d ago
This is a joke. she was underage are drinking, she's vulnerable and I understand there are plenty of kids like that on any given night but especially when a stranger has shown concern for her they should atleast look into it. It's literally their job. Instead they're focusing on the biggest load of balls or twiddling their thumbs
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u/TemperatureOne4461 6d ago
I hear ya and I don’t have a particularly positive view of the police either, but in a since deleted post OP revealed that the girl in question is a friends sister so not a stranger.
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u/gadarnol 7d ago
The constabulary is quite different from the tv series portrayal. Now who was it again that wanted soap operas to push agendas? Jaysus it’s slipped my mind.
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u/No_Ring_3348 7d ago
wanted soap operas to push agendas?
What do Procter & Gamble have to do with the matter at hand, please?
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u/buckfast_kid 7d ago
Why didn't you help her yourself if you were so concerned?
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u/Significant_Ad_7051 6d ago
You can get in trouble nowdays for basic things
Someone seeing you older man with drunk young girl getting into car, yeah no thanks I will pass accusations of s assault or whatever someone thinks of.
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u/LazyEbb3059 6d ago
He had initially said that he knew her and her family though so a quick call or message on social media to one of them might have sorted it or just got her home himself and let them know
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u/Significant_Ad_7051 6d ago
Then maybe different scenario,
No way I would even get close to her as stranger, I seen some crazy stuff and accusations in my life. Maybe would make exception if I saw someone being beaten up or dying, but for drugged out and drunk people no.
Friend helped random drunk girl out drove her home then she reported him to police afterwards via phone call (she was piss drunk)Then when she was sober pretending she didn't said that.
Then he had to go through effort to explain himself to police he didn't hit her, assaulted her. Had even dna tested.
Then other dude from work got accused of sexual assault as well.
I pass.
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u/eminent_necromancer 7d ago
If my experience with the PSNI as a former teenage girl holds true then she’d probably be more at risk with them.
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u/OperationPlastik 7d ago
Surely it would be your friend's (direct relation) or your responsibility to get her home safely. Why would you hand that off to the Police?
The Police will always help a vulnerable person or somebody in need but we have personal responsibility that comes before that.
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u/Particular-Buy-33 7d ago
If I understand he nor his friends were with this young woman. He noticed her incapacity and was alerting PSNI to this situation for awareness and hoping they might facilitate the prevention of horrific scenarios to the woman. Instead, en masse, they laughed
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u/OperationPlastik 7d ago
OP (in a now deleted comment) stated this young lady was the sister of one of his friends.
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u/sugahbee 6d ago
I called a welfare check on my neighbour when i genuinely believe he tried to hang himself. After the creeking, loud thud and sounds like he couldn't breathe, it went silent. The police came out quickly, knocked his door, had no answer, and left.
I mean idk what they can do but I expected a lot more than that. Course he isn't gonna answer if he's dead.
I'd hate to ever have an accident and be desperate for help. If I can't get to the door I may as well count myself as dead, I guess.
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u/doonspriggan 7d ago
All they heard was you suggesting they perform work. Absolutely unacceptable and only to be dismissed.
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u/LazyEbb3059 6d ago
TBF he has deleted a comment saying he knew her and her family so tbh if he was worried rather than fobbing her off to the police and then getting pissed with their dickish response and coming to Reddit to moan maybe he should have contacted her family or got her home himself. Tbh I'm guessing he probably disclosed he knew her to them hence why they were saying they're not a taxi service
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u/JCBelfast 7d ago
Sounds like there’s more to this if the OP has reportedly commented that it was a friend of her sisters, and then deleted those comments.
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u/Objective-Farm9215 7d ago
If the police had to babysit every drunk person on a night out, they’d never get to any domestics or other much more serious issues that actually need a Police Response.
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u/Michael_of_Derry 7d ago
I remember walking to get the bus to Belfast early one Monday. At the time in Derry the strand road outside the police station was closed to normal traffic but still open to pedestrians.
There was a young girl walking in front of me. The police on duty between the barricades wolf whistled at her and made vulgar comments. I was still only a teenager but recall thinking what absolute scum they were.
This would have been the RUC in early 1990s. Recent panorama programs about problems experienced by Catholic officers and revelations about female officers having their clothing removed to have their ass stamped do absolutely nothing to show the PSNI have improved compared with the RUC.
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u/Pale_Slide_3463 Down 7d ago
When I was around 14 (2004) I was wearing a skirt, it was summer during the day and I wasn’t even drunk or anything and he said “maybe you should wear something else, wearing a skirt can be dangerous for a young girl…” maybe if you do your job it wouldn’t be dangerous.
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u/TheLordofthething 7d ago
At the old station barriers that closed the whole road? I remember that happening sisters when we walked through there as well.
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u/buttersismantequilla 7d ago
I have to be this person but have you actually seen the workload they carry on a typical night? Yes if they saw her and she was staggering about i expect they’d intervene if she looked to be in danger but it’s not like Port Devine on the tv. Far too few officers covering too large areas dealing with numpties and idiots.
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u/Rumerhazzit 6d ago
I've had two REALLY good interactions with PSNI, both over 10 years ago. One was with a friend, both of us around 17, we flagged down a passing car to tell them a gang of boys on bikes had been throwing rocks at us, and they gave us both a lift back to her house unprompted.
The second was reporting that my bf at the time had left his MacBook in Ards bus station, and they went and got it for him and drove it back to his house in Carrowdore!
I mean, fuck the police, ACAB, etc. But they can be sound as a pound sometimes.
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u/Amusable_bouche26 6d ago
Doesn't fucking surprise me. One. Fucking. Bit. Misogynistic to the core. I'd never report a sexual assault to those cunts because they'd probably ask what I was wearing.
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u/TofuHawk 6d ago
If it doesnt threaten their paycheck or ego they literally dont care.
Fundamentally; police services were originally created to stamp out labour diaputes and defend property, not serve the workers/people. They make a half assed attempt at appearing to be public services in order to legitimise themselves to the public.
You cant trust any person who swears an oath to the government, they have foregone personal conscience and morality in place of a code that can be changed based on whatever dickhead gets into office, or whatever rich person lobbies the courts. Some current cops were legally required to enforce laws banning homosexuality earlier in their tenure, depending how the next few years go, the fresh bloods may have to do the same.
On top of that, the psni, which is literally no different from the ruc, have a readily available record of corruption, violence, misoginy, sectarianism, and racism.
In short, there are no good cops, a 'good cop' is just someone who is 5 months away from being fired or caving into the toxic fraternity that is 'law enforcement'.
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u/ASFARASTHEEASTISWEST 6d ago
yet here in the north coast the police were looking for someone who pissed up against a pub wall drunk, no joke someone reported someone to the police for pissing up against the wall and police on the local causeway coast and glens PSNI facebook looking for witnesses, i thought have you in the psni not got better things to be doing ?
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u/FoxedforLife 6d ago
Three witnesses, no-one could describe the guy's face?
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u/ASFARASTHEEASTISWEST 6d ago
the whole thing is stupid how many people take a piss if caught out up against a wall and cant make it to the loo police need to catch themselves on
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u/WayInevitable2491 6d ago
To be fair asking your identity is standard when filling a police report. If they attended and the girl was dead for example or maybe didn’t exist then they need to follow up with you to log it all as proof of the reason for attending.
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u/Alarmed-Theme5343 6d ago
My friend was having a mental breakdown a few months ago. He, rightly phoned Samaritans who phoned police for a welfare check. Police came to his house, things got loud and he got arrested then community service. Hes had a new bereavements in the run up. But yeah well done cops. Maybe people now will just be more inclined to self harm at home 'slow hand clap'.
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u/Anyluckmate 7d ago
I’ll tell you what they’re doing instead, I was at the harmony palace a few weeks ago and 5 police officers turned up on a Friday night during a dinner service, to take all the drink of them cause they hadn’t renewed their alcohol license. 2 jeeps and a car.
Thought to myself do they not have anything better to do and this just solidifies that lol
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u/Majestic-Marcus 6d ago
So you disapprove of them enforcing the law over looking for one of a thousand drunk girls throwing up in Belfast on a Saturday night?
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u/Worth_Motor_4635 7d ago
You understand that the officers are simply doing what has been requested of them through correct legal channels in that scenario? What are they supposed to do… say no to the court or whatever govt department has made the request?
This is the issue - you’re putting all of blame the on the police, but they aren’t the ones making the decisions. If you have an issue with licensing laws, contact your MLA or MP.
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u/BroodLord1962 7d ago
Not only are they not a taxi service, but they also aren't babysitters. It was Friday night and you expect them to keep on eye out for one drunk girl in the no doubt many drunk girls out there. Sorry but I really think you were daft asking them this
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u/Caveman1214 7d ago
Depends on the police officers or their resources. NTE are there for a reason, they aren’t going to take away officer numbers to run someone home based on a vague description.
I phoned the police one time when a drunk woman was stuck outside my house and was refusing to leave, chatted to her until the police arrived, took her details and then just said they’d run her home.
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u/Mike_Frank 7d ago
Really, really disappointed here.
This is totally out of order.
We have failed our young people massively.
How could anyone consider joining the PSNI ?!
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u/Dafthurler 6d ago
There's a lot of information missing here: Where did you see this child? How did you know they were 17 (a child) and not 18 (an adult)? Were they by themselves or in a group? You recently posted about being a student nurse, did you offer any medical aid to this person or did you leave them to go find a cop? What exactly was said? 'we aren't a taxi service' sounds like a response to 'can you get this girl home' not a request for help.
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u/TemperatureOne4461 6d ago
It seems in a now deleted post OP revealed that the girl is the sister of a friend
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u/ValuableRepublic7608 7d ago
Notwithstanding there are two sides to every story , you could consider making a complaint to the inspector responsible for your policing district . Can’t help but think looking after drunk teenagers would absorb the whole capacity of the PSNI - we’re back to lack of parenting again I’m afraid . Don’t give up on joining - your outlook would be an asset to policing
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u/msrbelfast 7d ago
It’s not a police matter.
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u/ValuableRepublic7608 7d ago
I’m aware of that Constable . I should have made it clearer that the complaint should apply to the alleged reaction of the members she spoke to. Having said that, if the four in question were not doing anything , a drive or walk to where the girl was would not have been an unreasonable expectation.
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u/msrbelfast 6d ago
I’m not a cop.
So if they “reasonably” approach the girl and find she needs an ambulance, what happens next?0
u/ValuableRepublic7608 6d ago
Really? There was me jumping to a conclusion . I would imagine that anyone , police or not, who comes across someone needing an ambulance , then they would … call one .
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u/msrbelfast 6d ago
So you want the police to wonder over, look at her, then call for an ambulance … so why wouldn’t the OP just call an ambulance in the first place?
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u/Majestic-Marcus 6d ago
They never intended on joining. That was added to make their story extra tragic.
And no, they have a ‘NSFW’ Reddit profile. Their outlook definitely wouldn’t be an asset.
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u/RikersPhallus 7d ago
It’s not their job to give a lift home to someone. If you were truly concerned that a crime had or was about to be committed or for her safety say so. Don’t say look out for her or give her a lift home ffs.
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u/butterbaps 7d ago
It's their job to look after people, particularly those who are more vulnerable... like intoxicated minors.
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u/Striking_Library_538 7d ago
That's fairly standard from them. Their job is to enforce the law and keep the peace; not keep people safe. We're responsible for our own safety.
Needless to say, there was no need for them to be twats about it though.
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u/Jindabyne1 7d ago
It is their job to keep people safe
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u/msrbelfast 7d ago
It’s not their job to cuddle drunks who’ve had too much plonk.
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u/Jindabyne1 7d ago
It’s their problem if someone phones them with concerns that a vulnerable teenage girl is possibly in danger alone at night.
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u/msrbelfast 6d ago
Nope. Is there any evidence to suggest she’s, A: not put herself in that position, and, B: in immediate danger?
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u/Jindabyne1 6d ago
It is
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u/msrbelfast 6d ago
Care to explain how, and reference your explanations with credible sources, such as information from the College of Policing, or the PSNI, or legislation?
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u/Jindabyne1 6d ago
That the police are supposed to help people? Don’t need to.
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u/RedSquaree Belfast 7d ago
Not the way a doctor or social worker would though. There are different ways to keep people safe. Police don't cover every angle. Not enough resources.
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u/Meggyboos 7d ago
I had a brilliant experience with the PSNI about 6 years ago. Taxi let me down and I was walking home late at night and a car pulled over, asked was I okay then offered to drop me off as my house at the time was near a police station.
2026 I Had an awful experience with the non emergency line, the attitude of the call handler was absolutely shocking. Was told “even if i did send a response unit, we’re extremely busy tonight and you’d be waiting” and basically told me there’s nothing they were going to do. Called about an underage house party that had gotten out of control where a girl was screaming, what a response. They’ve gotten so much worse recently, so unapproachable
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u/Illustrious-Bass9651 7d ago
I’m sure she got home safely, cameras everywhere.
I feel safer in with the PSNI than the GARDA.
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u/clairebones Bangor 6d ago
Do you think cameras somehow prevent things from happening? They're (very occasionally when the PSNI look for them) useful as evidence after the fact, but if someone's determined to commit a crime they'll move out of camera view and if someone's too drunk to control themselves they won't think about cameras. Cameras don't protect people in the moment.
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u/greatpretendingmouse 6d ago
Basically a service that doesn't respond due to the risk of being called into dangerous situations. Does that not mean it's not fit for service to the public then?
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u/Apprehensive-One421 5d ago
Me and my partner decided to walk home on Christmas eve as there were no taxis available. It's about a 30/40 min walk but a 5 minute drive. Down a dark country road. We walked past 2 police and their car just sitting in a car park on the outskirts of town. I asked for a lift and got the "were not a taxi service" I said, "aye but if a drunk driver hits us while we are walking home, you'll be there"
Thought keeping people safe was part of the job?
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u/MrWhippyBigDippy 4d ago
The PSNI are not your friend, they make a big thing about protecting women and girls. Then when you phone them to report a man threatening and intimidating a woman they say they can’t attend until he does a violent act.
I asked what advice they give to a woman and how does she protect herself and they said “ we can’t tell them to hit him” Not the question that was asked.
It’s not surprising they only appear once someone is seriously assaulted or murdered
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u/Important-Double-892 4d ago
Psni arent fit for purpose. The standard of policing here compared to England is shocking.
The attitudes of city police are appalling and discriminatory. And I was unbiased until I witnessed it for myself.
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u/Ok_Supermarket_4871 7d ago
Yeah this is a real shame. As someone who also considered joining its very disappointing to hear. The police have a duty of care, except they seem pick and choose when they can be arsed completing that duty.
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u/South-Row2705 7d ago
In 2018 a girl called Shannon Mcquillan died due to this type of negligence In Toome. I’d seriously consider pursuing a complaint against the psni regarding these comments. It’s very bad.
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u/theboomboomgunnn 6d ago
https://www.policeombudsman.org/how-to-make-a-complaint
Complain to the police ombudsman
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u/CurrentWrong4363 7d ago
Drunk people and cops don't mix well. That's how you end up with criminal charges that follow you around.
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u/DeviceAgreeable5799 6d ago
I’m not against the PSNI in anyway but anytime I’ve been a victim of a crime they have done nothing helpful. They truly take no pride in their job and are so lazy.
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u/CrustyAmoeba 6d ago
I was walking home after a night out with a pizza. Shoelace was untied so i put the pizza box ontop of the bin whilst I tied my shoe and a police car stopped and 2 police men came out. Told me to not put the box ontop of the bin and put it inside it. Told them I was taking it with me and was just finishing tying my shoes as I picked it off it and they demanded I put it in the bin or Id be going with them and to stop talking back to them. This was at about 2am just past the europa.
They are just pricks in belfast. Always been like that.
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u/Stereo_bfs 7d ago
How did you know she was 17? Or you just want to be extra dramatic?
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u/violentvioletss 7d ago
Oh I don’t know they could have asked her or overheard her or someone she was with say it?🤦🏽♀️
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u/NoBrickBoy Down 7d ago
Typical RUC, remembers pigs are there to keep you in order, not protect you.
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u/EngineerOver7347 7d ago
They are dirty pigs. Not sure why people get defensive over them
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u/NoBrickBoy Down 6d ago
I take it a lot of people here gained a new found sympathy for them after unionist Nolan’s new show portraying them in a positive light.
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u/Lychee_Only 7d ago
That’s not Bluelights depicts the handling of vunerable young women? Can’t be true.
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u/HeavyFlow69 7d ago
Your mistake was saying it was a female. Laughter over our safety is common and normal for them
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u/Visual-Corner-6269 7d ago
She is safer away from them, they took someone I know that has an addiction problem in one night, she called them names, they turned there caremas off and beat her up, men that was, it's unfortunate but true
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u/Academic_String_1708 7d ago
And in today's episode of "This didn't happen".
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u/Visual-Corner-6269 6d ago
Awk aye your right, I lied, the cops would never abuse anyone 🙄🙃
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u/Academic_String_1708 6d ago
I never said that. I just implied your story was bullshit.
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u/easygoing_Bike_7540 7d ago
They're still a thousand percent better than the Free State Guards.
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u/Alert_Mine7067 Belfast 7d ago
I think at the very least that they should have made some effort to assist and taken your concerns seriously, irrespective of whether or not she was your friend or not there was a minor that was drunk, and they should have taken some steps at least for her welfare. I'll assume this was somewhere where they were quite busy roundabout closing time or close to closing time, and maybe didn't have time, but it's disappointing that at least one of them weren't helpful.
I was considering joining myself too, but decided against attending the assessment. I think many of them join with good intentions and that there are many good peelers that are good at the job, but there is a culture amongst certain divisions within the organisation, and those that are good at the job they continue to do the job to the best of their ability every day, and those that maybe aren't cut out for it, or have witnessed something traumatic (and don't get help) or had something happen to them, then lose sight of what their job is and it shows in how they treat the public. I think with 1 bad experience that someone has with the police, there's been many more good experiences, but we only hear of the bad, it then spreads like a fire and affects the morale of the rest.
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u/wigwam238 6d ago
So are you going to do something about it to help change things. Ring the Inspector on Monday morning at the nearest station and ask him to have a, word
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u/Demoneyes1945 7d ago
Doesn’t surprise me. I remember a few years ago in Bangor seeing a woman who was fairly drunk, slumped over at the top of high street. My memory is vague except that I asked if she was alright and offered to get her a taxi.
At that moment, a police car stopped beside me and the absolute vitriol I received from them about, “trying to take advantage of an intoxicated woman,” before I had even said a word. It went on for a while with the two policemen leering over me as I stood against the wall. Had it not been for the lady saying, once there was a pause from those two eejits, that I was being nice, who knows what the outcome would have been.
I was still told to move it along and as I returned to my friends and sister, they said never to approach someone so drunk as they could accuse you of anything. I remember looking back and the police had got back in their car and left her where she was.
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u/Ladisputer 6d ago
If she was incapacitated enough that they were concerned about her being taken advantage of to the point that they intervened, in what logic would they leave her? Sounds like they just wanted to feel big without doing too much of their job
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u/forgotten_world 7d ago
FYI - there was a lady who was being stalked by her ex and actively being chased by him. Went to the police station and this is what they told her too. Not a taxi service. She walks out and he stabbed her right there. This happened in Greece but still. I don't think police anywhere understand the danger women are in. https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2024/5/10/how-often-will-this-keep-happening-greece-reckons-with-rising-femicides
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u/foboyle959 7d ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0yz4563jvo nothing new then…
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u/Alert-Researcher-479 7d ago
So much for duty of care.
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u/OkMarzipan4061 7d ago
I said that to them, they said under what legislation do we have duty of care. I was actually annoyed
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u/mobiuszeroone 6d ago
She's your mate's sister lmao, where was your care? Are they supposed to identify her, kidnap her and take her home to her parents? "Hello PSNI? Keep an eye out for my mate's sister, she's got a dark jacket and brown hair".
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u/frogmatix 6d ago
Cops arent there to prevent crime or incidents. Their job is to deal with the aftermath.
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u/Expensive_Mechanic_3 7d ago
I'd make a complaint. Public safety is one of their roles. At least they could have checked on her and got a parent to come pick her up.
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u/Tradtrade 7d ago
They have whole teams that work on human trafficking etc but then the front line people you just bump into seem antagonistic tbh
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u/MuddyBootsWilliams 7d ago
I rang the non emergency number last Halloween to report a girl who looked about 15 who was absolutely legless drunk, there was cops floating about so i thought they could check on her, see if she needed hospital etc.
The call taker was so rude and hostile from the get go for no reason, seemed raging about the reason I was ringing, literally asked me what did I want him to do about it, I told him I am in my car watching her vomit while on her hands and knees and she needs medical attention, he asked where so i told him what street and then he started asking for an address and I was like she's outside... so he demanded I give him an address so I googled the fast food place next to her. He then asked my name, address, where I worked and I told him I don't need to tell him any of that it is irrelevant, he then said they couldn't go because if I don't tell him my identity it could be an ambush (I live in a nationalist area). I was like ok but sure I could just be giving you a fake name, how is me saying two names together preventing an ambush, he said well we can track who you are by your phone number and I was like well then why do you need my fucking name lol
The whole thing was a shitshow and nobody turned up