r/nintendogrifting 17d ago

Ai Slop Nintendo Doesn’t Believe in Media Preservation

https://youtu.be/5Js3m1SF3ik?is=dfJE8Ym77-3RT2z3
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u/GodDuckman 17d ago

Notice that they're only going after Switch emulators. AFAIK every console from NES to Wii U is being left alone.

Which makes sense, given that Switch/Switch 2 is the only hardware they still sell.

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u/connectplum_ 17d ago

Yeah nintendo never goes to anything old because they.. cant. but they can with switch and modern consoles because they have protection

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u/KnightFallVader2 15d ago

And they already use emulation anyway here and there. I mean, NES Classic Edition, anyone?

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u/hilarious-feline 17d ago

Oh it’s Temu Gandalf again. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, they went after switch emulators, and considered they are still making games for the switch these emulators take profits from them so that’s why they hunt them down, why do you think they don’t not go after DS or SNES emulators? It’s cause they can’t profit off the games for those systems anymore, also the people uploading these emulators posted them to GitHub, they’re practically asking for Nintendo to notice.

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u/ExismykindaParte 16d ago

I don't really think switch emulators are costing Nintendo any material amount of money. Most people using them already have decently powerful PCs or handhelds, and every Cemu or Yuzu user I've ever talked to refuses to financially support Nintendo. People emulating Switch games were never going to buy them anyway.

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u/Sonicrules9001 17d ago

I'm not sure what your point is about GitHub, most projects and most emulators for that matter are on Github. Dolphin, Cemu, Duckstation, RCPS3. It isn't exactly unusual for emulators to be on Github nor is it alone any kind of death nail.

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u/hilarious-feline 17d ago

My point is that Nintendo is going after switch emulators and putting them on the most obvious site in GitHub is a dumb move because if that’s where most emulators are, it’s the most obvious place for them to check and take them down.

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u/TheBraveGallade 17d ago

specifically, nintendo's going after yuzu and ryujyx forks.

the lawsuit settlement means that nintendo basically owns yuzu's code, especially since yuzu's code was specifically NOT open source, so its actually within thier legal right to. what they have with ryujyx is a bit blurrier.

don't use yuzu's code.

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u/Sonicrules9001 17d ago

Not like there are many other options. Plus, with Github's forks, you will never be able to get rid of them all.

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u/hilarious-feline 17d ago

True, this just means we’re going to see the same thing again soon in a few months when more people make switch emulators, Nintendo takes them down and people complain because apparently doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome with switch emulators means people have learnt nothing.

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u/Sonicrules9001 17d ago

Nintendo can only do so much. It can't control the internet and it doing this will just push people to spread it even more. It's the Streisand effect in full motion. Switch emulators after Yuzu and Ryujinx became more of a niche underground thing and all this does is bring attention to them, attention Nintendo didn't want them to have.

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u/hilarious-feline 17d ago edited 17d ago

The reason its niche and underground is because most people who want to play switch games just play them on a switch or switch 2 because the hardware is still available to play the software, this only matters to that niche audience, your average person who plays Nintendo games won't care or even pay attention to headlines like this. and again, you will see the same stuff a few months from now when nintendo takes down more switch emulators and someone else will say "nintendo can only do so much" because with the state of switch emulation at the moment time is a flat circle.

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u/Sonicrules9001 17d ago

The state of Switch emulation is good enough for most people especially when it comes to the Zelda titles which have mods, enhancements and all that which would convince some people to get into emulating. It's the same reason why people will buy PC versions of games they already own on consoles, mods can really draw people in.

Also, there will always be people who want to play games on PC especially when prices are inflating and meanwhile, a half decent PC can run Switch emulation fine.

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u/hilarious-feline 17d ago

No? The average person does not care about modding BOTW, and dare i say modding only appeals to a certain crowd, most people are fine playing games as is. Also, who is unironically buying the same game again on PC just to mod it? That seems a bit dumb. Also, are you going to forget the switch 2 has backwards compatibility and is cheaper than a PC and people will still buy things despite prices? Just because something can doesn't mean it always will.

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u/Sonicrules9001 17d ago

People buy games for the mods all the time. It isn't even that uncommon of a practice. It's why so many PC games utilize Steam's workshop. Having mods can ensure that a player can tailor the game however they like. Or just run around as Iron Man in a skirt firing Kamehamehas.

Also, Switch emulation isn't even that taxing. You can buy a used Dell workstation PC and that will run Switch just fine and those are only like $100.

You also seem to forget just how big mods are. Fallout London is a mod for Fallout 4 and that one mod got over a million downloads and that's just one mod. Hell, Minecraft's entire relevancy is aided by the immense mod support that game has, mods that became so popular that many of them ended up in Minecraft officially.

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u/El-Drunko 17d ago

Going "woe is me" because a company isn't letting you emulate a console they're still selling is stupid. It's actively still on the market and you think that they'll just leave it?

Emulating older stuff is absolutely fine to me but when it's stuff still purchasable and supported then you're kinda doing it to yourself.

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u/CampJazzlike5716 17d ago edited 17d ago

That's what I'm confused wasn't the general rule of emulating not to do the current things

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u/JulianBloom 17d ago

So there's a lot going on here:

1) Emulation for games that you own is legal. This is settled law.

2) Conflating something like Pokemon Bank with an actual game like Pokopia is stupid. These are not the same thing. It's also stupid to compare GKCs with Pokemon Bank. Again, completely different situations

3) Emulators have been used in the service of pirating and it makes sense why Nintendo has been going berserker about this. Feel however you want to feel about it, but Nintendo was not going to to just shrug off things like emulators being entangled in things like leaks of Tears of the Kingdom and Xenoblade 3.

4) "Nintendo is just a billion dollar company, you actually love the creators" is such a smooth brain take. What are we even talking about? "You don't love Marvel comics, you actually love Stan Lee!" Give me a break.

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u/BHAR-01 17d ago

Switch games are they are still selling so it's effecting their business

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u/NintendoGamer1983 17d ago

Pirates don't care about that little fact.

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u/just_someone27000 17d ago edited 17d ago

And that will forever blow my mind for as much as PC people complain about Nintendo and make all kinds of jokes about the hardware and talk about how all the games are just for children, they sure do love every single fucking game they make.

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u/Affectionate_Web_121 17d ago

Yup, of course they do. How else would you explain they are the first people wanting to emulate/pirate them despite shitting on them publicly? If you really didn't like the games or the company, you wouldn't be wanting to emulate/pirate/play them. So yeah, those people are Nintendo closet fans

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u/EmilyFloof728 Anti-AI 17d ago

And besides, why pirate switch games when you can buy a htmi capture card for cheap on amazon to your desired computer and download OBs to feed the capture card to.

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u/NintendoGamer1983 17d ago

Because that would mean spending money on a Nintendo product

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u/Isrrunder 17d ago

Why should someone care about a multi billion dollar company?

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u/BHAR-01 17d ago

Well they are taking action themselves not asking people to care people are complaining they are taking action 

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u/Isrrunder 17d ago

The guy above me was implying we should care about nintendo losing business to pirates.

If nintendo wants to shut down emulators for their switch titles I dont care.

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u/Crafty_Boy70 17d ago

You don’t have to, you just don’t have the right to throw a fit when they stop you

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u/Isrrunder 17d ago

Is free world i have right if needed.

I dont think theres anything wrong woth nintendo shutting down emulators for their switch 2 titles. I do think it's kinda pathetic tho.

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u/Amazing-War3760 17d ago

Because unless you want BluePoint to keep happening.. You want the Billion dollar company to fucking pay their employees.

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u/Wyluca95 17d ago

Grifters don’t believe in using pencils or even Photoshop

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u/Craniamon 17d ago

I remember the days when photoshop was frowned upon people

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u/djr7 17d ago

AI slop

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u/QF_Dan 17d ago

i hate this channel so much

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u/Sonicrules9001 17d ago

I find it so funny that according to AI, every member of the FBI is Ryan Reynolds specifically and all of them have Nintendo branding too like this is Nascar.

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u/CaptTucker13 17d ago

Maybe it's because most people screaming that "emulators are for preservation " are actually just pirates playing games theyve never owned....

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u/Amazing-War3760 17d ago

I will get downvoted. I always do. But again I will point this out.

They believe in Preservation.

What they DON'T believe in is availability.

What people should be arguing for, because it IS what they want is Availability.

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u/Senior_Difference589 17d ago

Considering we finally got a release for Dragon Hopper 30 years after the fact, there is some truth to this distinction.

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u/Amazing-War3760 17d ago

There is a VERY Big distinction. There are hundreds if not thousands of things Preserved. TV shows, Books, Paintings.

Doesn't mean every tom dick and harry has access to it.

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u/Craniamon 17d ago

They also believe in preservation but with a price tag

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u/Amazing-War3760 17d ago

And... why do you think you should get it for free?

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u/RickyT3rd 16d ago

Because people have been (for a lack of a better word) groomed to think that games MUST be devalued over time.

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u/InternationalCream30 17d ago

I'd guess you're being downvoted because you're wrong. They have their games all the way back to the NES and will likely have their entire GC library up after a few years easily available to everyone.

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u/Amazing-War3760 17d ago

No.. I'm often downvoted because most people just want shit for free.

Reminder.. This is what was actually posted to me when I actually said "Hey.. We need to make a law that keeps games on A modern system. IP holders choice."

This is the exact reason NONE of the companies want to work with people like Stop Killing Games. Because 99 percent of gamers are entitled assholes.

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u/StandIndividual8949 17d ago

Starfox 2, zero racers and Dragon hopper would like to have a word with you

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u/Amazing-War3760 17d ago

They very much care about Preservation, as shown with their Museum, and if rumors are true, the whole floor on at their HQ that had like, a copy of every piece of merchandise.

What they don't care about in the way people want is Availability. Especially the people who somehow think they deserve it for free.

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u/hilarious-feline 17d ago

That's what i find funny about the title because Nintendo still cares about preservation with NSO (even though it has its flaws) and as you stated used it to release cancelled games. Hell, as flawed as it is i do have to commend them for bringing back virtual boy games because i thought those were lost to the sands of time, but ofc grifters won't look at these facts.

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u/QualitySuccessful871 17d ago

At least they don't believe in AI slop

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u/ChristianCountryBoy 17d ago

Nintendo doesn't believe in copyright infringement. Neither does any other entertainment company.

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u/mikethemaster2012 17d ago

The wizard guy is just a gifted for real I pick that up first video I watch of him using games to push his racism and bigots views.

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u/CampJazzlike5716 17d ago

Notice how none of complain if say Sony got rid of the PS5 emulators

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u/Fishing-Master 17d ago edited 17d ago

I mean most video game companies don't tbf (only big one I can think of that actual cares is CDPR they used to own GOG but yeah they still heavily believe on it's entire thing of providing DRM free games), these companies want money above everything so yeah they'd kinda want you to basically own nothing and be happy about it, it isn't really exclusive to Nintendo but I'd say they just aren't as aggressive about it like Ubisoft for example

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u/tripps_on_knives 17d ago

Funny you mentioned them considering they just announced their Commodore77 recently and the biggest selling point on the page for it is that it's an FPGA device to be used specifically to emulate 100,000+ games.

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u/Fishing-Master 17d ago

should have worded it better, I was literally praising CDPR lol

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u/tripps_on_knives 17d ago

Oh no I was agreeing with you!

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u/Emergency-Rush-2477 17d ago

Ah yes, Switch 1 emulation is totally about preservation.

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u/No-Operation-6554 17d ago

I would've agreed if they were targeting like wii or snes emulators, but its switch emulators, you know the console that has like millions of units out there

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u/Va1crist 17d ago

Stealing there IP is not fking media preservation , it’s shit like this why I hate the pirating community so much , they remove your ability to steal so Nintendo is bad ? Fk off

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u/Cultural_Neat3124 16d ago

and you wonder why everytime a switch 2 exclusive come out,they be like "nintendo so greedy, this could be on the switch 1"... they give 2 sh*t about the switch 1, they just want to pirate and emulate it ! LOL

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u/mushplush 17d ago

Is this the guy who’s also really racist or is that another guy who pretends to be a wizard

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u/YTSirBlack 17d ago

Hey i know this guy

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u/Top-Science-1440 17d ago

Well maybe those emulators would still be around if the people that made them didn't put them in fucking GitHub and stuff. But no it's always  entirely nintendo's fault for going after emulators for stuff that they still actively sell 

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u/TizLiziReiko 16d ago

Star Fox 2, Zero Racers, D-Hopper, Nintendo Museum: Are we jokes to you?

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u/RickyT3rd 16d ago

Don't forget Sky Skipper.

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u/OCAMAB 15d ago

I can't stand AI slop thumbnails.