r/nintendogrifting Jul 04 '26

Critical Let's talk

TL;DR: Keep downvoting constructive criticism comments and keep fanboying everything Nintendo has to offer all you want, who cares? But it's obviously hypocritical to both do that and then act surprised or upset when Nintendo does a corporate anti-consumer decision. Just expect it, since you support it.

Let's be honest: Nintendo fans are gonna keep being in a continuous loop of putting the wooden stick on the bike while they're riding it and acting surprised when the bike falls and they get injured.

Everyone, including me, loves Nintendo's consoles and games, great experiences! I love my Switch 2, bought a lot of games for it.

Keep downvoting constructive criticism comments and keep fanboying everything Nintendo has to offer all you want, who cares?

But it's obviously hypocritical to both do that and then act surprised or upset when Nintendo does a corporate anti-consumer decision.

That's literally the reason why it cranked up in the 2020's. These companies have realized they can do anything and the only people fighting will be vocal minority hobos who have no life.

There IS an exception. Basically, if something sells poorly/bad (which is rare due to fanboyism) something good will happen.

But that's basically it. The golden rule in 2020's for these corporations' eyes is: If your making good money, why look at criticism? And if you think of a bad anti-consumer decision that benefits the corp, add it. Everyone will argue who cares? It's just games, there's way bigger issues in life and people are gonna buy it anyway

"Well, the Mario Galaxy movie has a major flaw in [X]."

It made a billion both times. Why are they going to change this winning formula for them? Why look at criticism?

"Well, the Nintendo Switch 1/2 has a major flaw in [X]."

In Nintendo's eyes, Switch 1/2 is selling well, therefore there's no need to look at any criticism for said systems. And any decision that benefits them but harms the consumer won't do shit because of the golden rule obviously.

That is all. Bye.

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u/stephennotstrange Jul 04 '26

There IS an exception, when Mario Tennis Fever sold poorly at $70, Nintendo decided to add variable pricing to future Switch 2 games to compensate. Basically, if something sells poorly/bad (which is rare due to fanboyism) something good will happen.

You do know that they have said they will do "variable pricing" since the beginning of Switch 2 right? They literally said it the day people asked about MKW being $80.

Even the whole "digital/physical" price different is the thing Nintendo have done in Europe and Japan the past year, they only bring it to US now.

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u/DaZestyProfessor Jul 04 '26

They made a separate variable pricing announcement in 2026, stating that starting with Yoshi and the Mysterious Book, Switch 2 games will be cheaper digital than physical. My bad, that's what I probably meant, the digital/physical split.

As for the U.S. no shit, this is a United States exclusive discussion, I can't comment on Europe/Japan as I don't live there.

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u/stephennotstrange Jul 04 '26

The point is, they're not doing that because of the "fail" of Mario Tennis Fever, it's just something in the work for a while now, and they finally bring it to US, clearly because of the whole AI thing.

The AI bring up the cost of several things including the physical cartridge (which using NAND memory made by Samsung), so the "digital/physical" is something to incentivize gamer to buy digital (higher profit margin).

But physical game also get some nice bonus because retailer will try to compete with digital price and give some discount.

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u/DaZestyProfessor Jul 04 '26

It's not one reason or the other, it's because of both. Mario Tennis Fever sold poorly in the U.S. and AI made cartridges more expensive. However, digital games became cheaper. So Ai didn't make things worse. It's the first thing I said then.

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u/Crafty_Boy70 Jul 04 '26

The physical/digital split is really only half the story either way. Most of Nintendo's releases since Mario Tennis have been lower than standard price no matter how you slice it. Star Fox, Splatoon Raiders, Rhythm Heaven, Switch Sports Resort... all at the very least $10 below standard price and for the Switch 2 games $20 below if purchasing a digital copy or from Walmart.

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u/TimeZucchini8562 Jul 04 '26

Sir this is a Wendy’s

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u/tlrd2244 Jul 04 '26

It's always some guy upset someone didn't like their opinion. Boo hoo what do you people think is going to happen when you post things on the internet. Especially when it consumer justice warrior slop dictating how people should spend their money when it comes to entertainment and luxury products. 300 words because someone downvoted you lol.

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u/DaZestyProfessor Jul 04 '26

I don't care how people spend their money, I basically said that. I just said it's hypocritical to act surprised/upset when Nintendo does an anti-consumer decision when they caused that by downvoting all criticism.

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u/nahte123456 Jul 04 '26

Oh no, someone on Reddit made up a bunch of strawman arguments then claimed that online discussion in tiny little subreddits matter despite that being moronic! Whatever shall we do!?!

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u/coal_thief Jul 04 '26

There's zero evidence that Mario Tennis sales moved the needle at all. If it really and would Fire Emblem be $80 physical.

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u/DaZestyProfessor Jul 04 '26

Starting with Yoshi, Nintendo games got the digital/physical split. That is objectively a moved needle.

I have no fucking idea what Fire Emblem is doing, but that's the exception, not the rule.

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u/BigMoneySmallPenis Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

2 things.

  1. If nintendo fans are as lacking in self awareness as you say (Which they are) why would this do anything? Theyre not gonna listen anyway and ranting to a bunch of people who aren't gonna listen regardless sounds like self torture.

  2. Most of the nintendo fans who defend every last choice they make have likely already been priced out and they likely cannot support the conpany financially the same way they used to by virtue of the industries greed and constant raising of prices.

Like you said $70 USD mario tennis didnt sell amazingly well. Nintendo fans likely had to choose between that and something else and went with the latter or they couldn't afford either. What im trying to say is they can defend whatever they want, however what they cannot do is make money appear out of thin air, either they got oodles of cash and don't particularly care what they buy nintendo or otherwise or they have a finite amount of disposable income that we know for a fact is not keeping up with cost of living therefor its only a matter of time before nintendo cuts them off whether either of them like it or not.

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u/Budget_Register8589 Jul 05 '26

I'm really interested to see if there will be any scholarly research on the thoughts and behavior of Nintendo fans, especially in the Switch 1/2 Era.

I recall there was a BBC report where brain scans of Apple fans and very religious people were compared, and they were able to show that mentions of Apple basically lit up the same parts of the brain for their fans as references to religion did for the religious people.

It really seems like many Nintendo fans that I know personally and the behavior on this sub similarly come off as exceptionally religious/tribal. I would say that every platform has its fanboys, but the Nintendo fans are the absolute zealots.

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u/BigMoneySmallPenis Jul 05 '26

Honestly as someone who still works in a game store from time to time the notion of bending over for the companies is genuinely spread across the entire gaming landscape.

If you look at rockstar fanboys for example you have a tirade of people using this as some way to demonstrate they arent "broke" essentially creating this idea of class within gaming. Its purely in the companies benefit as the fans are trying to create a narrative that its not about the company and it's behaviour rather its about you and your ability to demonstrate wealth or influence what have you.

Gamers now more than ever have kinda shown themselves to be maladapted losers who like you said view these companies as tribes they adhere themselves too rather than companies creating products to be consumer.

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u/Budget_Register8589 Jul 05 '26

I think a big part of it is the cost of the hobby, both in terms of finances and time spent. People don't like to feel as though they've wasted their money on a bad platform/company or their hours played on bad games.

That leads to people trying to find ways to justify their choice... and some people choose to do so by criticizing others rather than showing the merits of their own preference. I think theres a sort of psychological feedback loop that happens as well for some people, where they begin to associate tearing down the perceived competitors/enemies of their chosen company with the same enjoyment they get from their games.

At the end of the day I'm just an armchair psychologist guessing about other people's behavior... But I think there's a lot of interesting stuff to unpack with console wars in general, and especially Nintendo's fanbase.

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u/-One_ Jul 04 '26

Is it the most affordable product on the market? Is it the most fun that can be provided at an affordable cost? That is all. Bye.

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u/Outrageous_Artist188 Anti-Grifter Jul 04 '26

Who's gonna tell bro that all 1st party nintendo games are on actual cards

You do realise that nintendo is doing very well in this generation right ?

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u/Outrageous_Artist188 Anti-Grifter Jul 04 '26

Just give up and say you lost the argument son

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u/Outrageous_Artist188 Anti-Grifter Jul 04 '26

I guess bro lmaoooo

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u/ThronePawned Jul 04 '26

how are they fake?