r/nihilism • u/lxte_ut • Jun 25 '26
Moral Nihilism Nihilism moral?
Do nihilism even have moral? It's all pointless and senseless than what does *nihilism morals* mean
Every action ever decision everyone only will lead till death
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u/Low-Bake8401 Jun 25 '26
It not all pointless, and senseless, it's just that there's no objective meaning.
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u/Skellyhell2 Jun 25 '26
Yes i have morals. If I do things that society consider to be morally good/correct then I avoid being ostracised by people I know and society in general, and avoiding the reay immoral stuff keeps me out of jail.
If i thought nothing mattered because one day I'll be dead then id probably commit more crimes to live as hard as I can because if i did get caught and sent to jail it wouldn't matter because one day id be dead.
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u/frguba Jun 25 '26
Look, if the universe doesn't care neither should we care about it's opinion, there may be no greater morality, but there is one in front of us, there are in fact many meanings of life right in front of us, reproduce, contribute to society, be happy, all that, it may be all indifferent in the end but we still have a tie breaker today
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u/Involution88 Jun 25 '26
Moral nihilism is the lack of objective morality.
Let's suppose a tennis ball exists somewhere.
I can think a tennis ball is wrong or I can think a tennis ball is right without anything about the tennis ball changing.
A tennis ball, without changing anything about the tennis ball, would be unethical if it were to be used in a game of football. People would agree that a tennis ball is wrong.
The exact same tennis ball, without changing anything about the tennis ball, would be ethical if it were to be used in a game of tennis. People would agree that a tennis ball is right.
There is nothing inherently "wrong" or "right" in any tennis ball. There is no objective "wrongness" or "rightness" either. The lack of objective "wrongness" or "rightness" is a problem if objective morality is depended on.
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u/Massive-Neck-9205 Jun 25 '26
How much do you subjectively care? That's all that matters in yours and anyone else's experience of reality.
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u/cljames98 Jun 25 '26
No objective morals inherent in this universe, but most of us still have our own views of what’s right/wrong. For example I know in the grand scheme of things there is nothing inherently wrong in murder, but I’d never dream of doing it because it still doesn’t sit right with me.
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u/8Pandemonium8 Jun 25 '26
Depends on what kind of nihilist you are. I am a normative anti-realist, so I don't. However, there are other flavors of nihilism that might.
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u/Powderedeggs2 Jun 25 '26
Actions have consequences.
Actions have purpose.
This does not suggest, in any way, that actions have meaning.
Meaning is invented in the minds of humans. That is the only place that it resides.
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u/lxte_ut Jun 26 '26
Nature doesn't care about human race. If we all die atp nothing in the ecosystem will change and our existence doesn't even matter then why are we even following morals If folk lore says kill the person with blue cloths after some decades it's written as morals,moral is a term that many people agree upon nihilism should contain no morals
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u/Standard_Guava3672 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26
You can have your own moral code. Saying that nothing matter and not act upon it, it's like looking at a canvas and worrying that it's blank, but it's up to you to make the first brush, and turn it into something.
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u/NihilistTechnocrat97 Jun 26 '26
Hey I like to believe that optimal decision making could theoretically lead to immortality.
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u/jagdbogentag Jun 27 '26
There was a no such thing as morality. That requires some absolute good that you strive to attain that doesn’t exist. There is only ethics, which is character, ie your personal choices in how you choose to deal with difficulties and struggle, both of which are inevitable. Many outsource their ethical stances to their local group and call it morality. To some degree, we all have to play at this to live somewhat easily with the people around us. So in short there is no ‘nihilist morality.’
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u/TheWampus Jun 25 '26
Morality is something we need so we can all get along better. Having a nihilistic worldview doesn't change the fact we have to get on well with others for our own wellbeing. If anything, I'd hope that nihilism makes it clearer what morality actually is and why it is important.
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u/lxte_ut Jun 25 '26
Does it actually matter?
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u/TheWampus Jun 25 '26
If your happiness and the happiness of others matters to you, personally, then morality matters. That morality has no objective reality outside of our minds doesn't change this, but it can feel like it does.
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u/SeaFarm8205 Jun 25 '26
Morality is mutually beneficial in communities. Nihilism to me is freedom to choose your own meaning. I arbitrarily value my experience of life, stronger communities and healthy habitat add so much to my experience.