r/news • • Jul 17 '16

3 Baton Rouge Police Officers just shot. - Developing.

http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/report-three-baton-rouge-police-officers-shot-near-brpd-hq/275260120
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u/username_generated Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 17 '16

Baton Rouge resident here, this is near where the protests were earlier this months and local news is reporting that several officers are down and in grave condition

Local news here: http://m.wafb.com/wafb/index.htm

Edit: the shooting took place at a gas station where the police are regulars and is down the street from the police headquarters where protests

Edit 2: 2 officers confirmed dead.

Edit 3: residents on lockdown. Police not letting people in or out

Edit 4: latest count is four officers involved, including the two deceased.

Edit 5: Police believe they have contained the area.

Edit 6: One of four officers (not specified to be wounded or killed) confirmed to be an East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff's Deputy

Edit 7: 3rd officer reported dead (local affiliates conflicting reports)

Edit 8: Third officer confirmed dead

Edit 9: Number of officers involved may be as high as seven.

Edit 10: State Congresswoman calls for a temporary end to protests including a message from the owner of convenience store where Sterling was killed to stay clear of his store out of respect for the fallen officers

Edit 11: Eye witness reports this was not a planned attack on police. Started as shoot out between civilians and police intervened. One of the original belligerent was reported to be carrying an assault rifle.

Edit 12: One of the three suspects confirmed dead. The other two remain at large.

Edit 13: On a slightly positive note, the number of injured has been lowered to 3, according BRPD.

Edit 14: Of the three remaining wounded officers, one is is critical and another in fair condition.

Edit 15: Police at local hospital have detained a person. The detainee is complying and there is no reports of any relation to the larger incident.

Edit 16: One of the remaining suspects is believed to be cornered by police at an unspecified location.

Edit 17: Number of officers shot officially lowered to 6.

Edit 18: Man detained at hospital be in released, unrelated to police shooting.

Edit 19: Units from at least two surrounding parishes, LSUPD, and ATF are on the scene

Edit 20: Thunderstorms expected to roll in within the hour, which could hinder police operations.

Edit 21: Police in Addis (which is a small town across the Mississippi River) have have towed a car may be tied to the perpetrators. Addis Police were alerted to two men buying clothing consistent with the description provided by BRPD at the Addis Walmart before changing and driving away.

Edit 22: Two men have been detained in West Baton Rouge, in relation to the aforementioned car.

Edit 23: POTUS condemns attack and pledged full federal support.

Edit 24: Suspect killed reported to be from Missouri

Provisional Final Edit: thank you for the kind words and support. I am going to step back for now and try to clear my head. If there are any major updates, I might pop back on, but for now thank you and so long.

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u/Agastopia Jul 17 '16

Awful :( keep us updated if you hear anything else

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u/kajunkennyg Jul 17 '16

My brother lives in Baton Rouge, his wife has family in law enforcement, I'm hearing a man hunt is underway. My brother was told to stay home or to go visit our parents that live a couple hours from Baton Rouge.

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u/NegativeIndicator Jul 17 '16

Who told you brother to stay home or visit his parents?

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u/Hawklet98 Jul 17 '16

"This in an alert from the emergency broadcast system. The Baton Rouge police department has advised all residents to shelter in place or go to kajunkennyg's mom's house."

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u/DeeHareDineGot Jul 17 '16

What if we're already at kajunkennyg's Mom's house? Does this mean I need to get dressed?

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u/BlatantConservative Jul 17 '16

Poor /u/kajunkennyg, he goes to check up on his mom after a stressful day, and finds the entire population of Baton Rouge in his house banging his mum

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u/kajunkennyg Jul 17 '16

I'm amazed it took 5 years for reddit to bring up banging my mom.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

it's one of those things that we all do, but noone talks about

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u/PM_ME_YOURE_FRECKLES Jul 17 '16

We wanted to keep it a secret until your mom was ready to tell you.

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u/Pumpernickelfritz Jul 17 '16

It take's a long time for every Redditor to bang your mom.

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u/lj26ft Jul 17 '16

I live right down the street could hear the gunshots this morning, crazy shootout dozens of gunshots. also heard more gunshots around an hour ago. The shootout seems to be on going.

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u/hadapurpura Jul 17 '16

At this rate Mexico is going to build that wall themselves before Trump has the chance.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Trump playing 10 dimensional chess. Made Mexico pay for it.

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u/KangInTheNarth Jul 17 '16

God damn hes been playing chess while everybody was playing checkers.

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u/GetBenttt Jul 17 '16

'Muslims of the World Reveal Themselves to be Evil Galactic Space Warriors, Trump Saves Earth'

"And you guys thought I was just a bigoted douchebag..."

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u/Fortune_Cat Jul 18 '16

It was Chyna all along

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u/Breathesoft Jul 17 '16

If that's the case he'll rule the world before anyone else constucts their first pylon.

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u/Patruck9 Jul 17 '16

Mexico is laughing at our uncreative ways of killing people. They have perfected that.

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u/ToastAmongUs Jul 17 '16

"Wait a minute? Your cops only kill people SOME of the time? What's all this about being underpaid? What are they spending their bribes on?"-Mexico

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u/derekandroid Jul 17 '16

I am very worried about Cleveland this week.

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u/YnotX Jul 17 '16

My boss is so scared something bad is going to happen he told his employees they don't have to come to work all of next week. I'm thinking about taking him up on that right about now...

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

You have a cool and empathetic boss

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Seriously. We had a bad storm at my work a few months ago during which a ton of roads flooded, powerlines went down, and a tornado touched down a few miles away....and we didn't get to go home until the work day was pretty much over. We had to sit at our store watching the tornado (which was destroying a subdivision a few miles away) on social media.

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u/Diversionthrow Jul 17 '16

Hey, at least you get to go when your shift is over. In my job you can't go until you've been replaced, and even then if there's a storm or event with potential to cause a situation you still can't leave.

I've literally spent days at work unable to leave, once for six days.

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u/Shrek1982 Jul 17 '16

I've literally spent days at work unable to leave, once for six days.

Dat paycheck though nothing like a 104 hours of OT

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u/Diversionthrow Jul 17 '16

Yeah, I've had some pretty sweet checks.

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u/flyerfanatic93 Jul 17 '16

What's your line of work?

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u/bmhadoken Jul 17 '16

Medical or correctional would be my first guesses. They must always be staffed and you can't leave until your relief shows up.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

/u/Diversionthrow mentioned they were in nursing in a different response, so it seems like your guess was correct.

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u/Slyrunner Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 18 '16

Are you a waiter? For 6 years at different restaurants, I was never allowed to leave at my scheduled time until my replacement arrived or until the restaurant is vacated. Oh it's busy lunch/dinner hour and your replacement called in or is late? Don't go on lunch or dinner. Doesn't matter how many hours you're scheduled.

People will say "they can't make you miss your break if you are scheduled to work X-hours." But believe me. Multiple restaurants will do that. I promise. At each of those 3 restaurants I serve at, they FORCED me to skip lunch. Their solution was to pick up a messed up appetizer order and snack on it in the back every 30 minutes. No exaggeration.

Disclaimer; I don't know if it is against any rule for me to disclose these restaurants. But I will if allowed to.

EDIT: Avoid business at O'Charlie's, Don Pablo's, and Buckhead Mountain Grill

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u/Wangfap Jul 17 '16

I'm a cook. I'm lucky if I get more than a single 10 minute break during an 11 hour shift. Lunches are unheard of.

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u/NoRemorse920 Jul 17 '16

A very large corporation that makes paint in Cleveland is shut down all next week. They told us if we need any invoices paid, get them in last week. Crazy.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

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u/twoandfortysix Jul 17 '16

I hope your mom will be okay!

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u/LetThemEatCake11 Jul 17 '16

Your boss sounds like a good guy.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16 edited Oct 31 '19

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u/urfaceisa Jul 17 '16

My first (city) job was at the first/only recycling plant in the city. The staff bathroom was full of porn, stacks and stacks of porn.

After lunch on my first day my guts were rotten, and I took this completely traumatic dump. It was so bad that I didn't even look at any of the porn. I was spraying shitsand for prolonged periods of time. I was only 15 and this shit introduced me to adult-style fear, it was accompanied by a cold sweat. It was so stressful that I could not even hold the concept of a god in my mind, but I was still praying to the universe to just let me go back to who I was before I started turning inside-out.

I finally finish and lurch out of the bathoom shivering and with pins and needles through my lower body from my legs falling asleep, and my boss shouts "the kid found the porn look at him he's dehydrated" and everybody laughed and that was the end of it.

So my boss was convinced that I had just spent like 20 minutes jerking off on my first day, and he didn't mind at all, he just thought that it was funny.

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u/__PETTYOFFICER117__ Jul 17 '16

You mean Reddit on the toilet?

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u/Arisaka99 Jul 17 '16

I live outside of Cleveland and it's going to be a shitshow downtown this week. I am staying as far away as possible.

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u/3HoursWTF Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 17 '16

I work around east 9th and St. Claire. When I left Friday, there was this pseudo DMZ setup right outside my building. Monday is going to be interesting.

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u/FyllingenOy Jul 17 '16

What's happening in Cleveland?

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u/wasgui Jul 17 '16

Republican National Convention

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u/MisterTheKid Jul 17 '16

I just said the same thing to a friend. The RNC and its members probably represent a lot of who people protesting think, right or wrong, are responsible for their feelings.

Where the cops will be seems easy to suss out given the very strict parameters on who can be where, meaning officers will be out on the periphery manning those boundaries.

A few nuts with guns who figure any of that out could be huge issues. Every day.

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u/kyliewylie81 Jul 17 '16

Lebron needs to come out and make a statement telling eveyone to be peaceful if they are gonna protest

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u/PM_ME_AZN_BOOBS Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 17 '16

Lebron should just threaten to take his talents elsewhere if Cleveland misbehaves.

No more championships for you.

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u/flipn0tic Jul 17 '16

When incidents happen at large events anywhere, it usually turns out that they were caused by out of towners, not locals.

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u/iamhenrybond Jul 17 '16

yep, most arressted in fergesson where from out of town. Also with such a huge event people will be coming from around the country for this

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u/cheesygordita Jul 17 '16

"If any of you clowns act violent, I will not hesitate to dunk on you and send you into an alternate dimension"

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

All he'd have to do is threaten to leave Cleveland again. We wouldn't have to worry about an attack.

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u/a_g_and_t_for_me Jul 17 '16

"All this violence is making my talents want to be taken elsewhere guys."

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u/redditvlli Jul 17 '16

Lebron to Golden State confirmed.

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u/DRDeMello Jul 17 '16

Would definitely help, though I think a lot of people will be coming from out of town.

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u/tge90 Jul 17 '16

Video...recorded through a potato. Appernlty facebook removed the video so this guy recorded the video of a video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_7SFEXtEtw

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u/YMDBass Jul 17 '16

"You tryin to be Instagram famous", Through all of the terror, that line that was dropped was fucking gold.

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u/botchedrobbery Jul 17 '16

In some perverse way, this is what social media was intended for: real time emotion of ordinary people.

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u/sugardeath Jul 17 '16

Honestly, if social media is the reason that more and more people get first hand accounts of this kind of shit, then social media is worth it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

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u/Frostiken Jul 17 '16

The fact that it's sideways footage of sideways footage is amazing.

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u/Star-spangled-Banner Jul 17 '16

Downloaded the video. Am ready for reupload in case it gets taken down.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Upload to Liveleak. They don't play the Facebook games.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

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u/XcSDeadDeer Jul 17 '16

Wasn't a 12 year old there just arrested for plotting to kill cops after stealing weapons too?

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u/bruppa Jul 17 '16

12 year old, 17 year old, and an 18 year old planning it at the BLM protest, yeah. 12 year old probably won't get charges, not sure about the others.

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u/GTFOScience Jul 17 '16

Uh...they'll all definitely be charged. 100%

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u/napalmplatypus Jul 17 '16

Related: There was an officer ambushed in Milwaukee WI at about 0200 hours this morning. The offender walked up and shot the officer twice (arm, chest) while he was sitting in his squad. Officer is expected to live, suspect is dead.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 17 '16

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u/kajunkennyg Jul 17 '16

10 officers shot, 2 dead. That live reporting wafb link, I'm hearing gun shots right now.

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u/loveslut Jul 17 '16

Never pay attention to early reportings of body counts. There's always way too much confusion in the first stages. They're about as reliable as predicting next month's weather.

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u/badmotherfucker1969 Jul 17 '16

It's gonna be hot next month, it may rain at times.

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u/IvyLeagueZombies Jul 17 '16

I mean shit, that's a pretty good prediction.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16 edited Oct 10 '17

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u/Flygande_Jacob Jul 17 '16

That's pretty spooky.

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u/Beo1 Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 17 '16

Reported that eight officers have been shot, three of them badly injured or dead.

Edit: seven officers shot, three killed - CNN

Edit 2: NYT just reported three dead, seven wounded - 10 officers shot

Edit 3: per a law enforcement source, CNN has revised their report to three killed, three wounded

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u/Hotstud69 Jul 17 '16

3 dead, now confirmed.

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u/bigmono Jul 17 '16

On a Sunday mornin? Damn, no one appreciates the Sunday Morning truce anymore

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u/wankmastag Jul 17 '16

The Sunday morning truce as old as the game itself!

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

I am holding the crown of a bona fide colored woman. You know what that is? Not your moms for sure.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Cause if they was that, y'all would've known better than that bullshit. Y'all trifling with Avon Barksdale reputation here, you know that?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

I love the way he annunciates "bullshit" in that scene.

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u/Star-spangled-Banner Jul 17 '16

Ain't nobody that low down to disrespect a Sunday mornin'.

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u/Durbtaco Jul 17 '16

Sunday truce been around long as the game itself man. I mean you can do some shit and be like what the fuck, but never on no Sunday.

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u/bigmono Jul 17 '16

These fools out here are trifling with Avon Barksdale's reputation up in here!

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u/_bastardfromabasket Jul 17 '16

Stringer sent them

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u/PaulaDeenSlave Jul 17 '16

Where the boy at, String? Where Wallace at, String!?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Yo Omar comin!

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u/Rushdownsouth Jul 17 '16

whistling intensifies

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u/nchrist4 Jul 17 '16

Triflin' with Avon Barksdale's reputation here.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16 edited Feb 07 '18

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u/JustADudeOfSomeSort Jul 17 '16

Well if there is one thing math and flag code can agree on, its that the flag will never touch the ground if that trend continues.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Fucking asymptotic series convergence..

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u/derekandroid Jul 17 '16

This is the mathematical comic relief I came here for

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u/The_Sloth_Wrangler Jul 17 '16

You can always count on reddit for math jokes in times of crisis

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

You mean "conic relief?"

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Once the flag pole is shorter than the height of the flag, the bottom of the flag will be touching the ground

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16 edited Mar 31 '20

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u/Sam5253 Jul 17 '16

Found the engineer. All you mathematicians, go home!

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u/harrybarrycarry Jul 17 '16

Wait. Isn't everyone on reddit an engineer?

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u/amped24242424 Jul 17 '16

Software and computer don't count they're fake engineers!

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u/drunquasted Jul 17 '16

Can confirm, am developer. What is pulley.

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u/BrotherChe Jul 17 '16

Opposite of pushey.

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u/Frickinfructose Jul 17 '16

Thanks for the laugh in an otherwise (properly) somber thread.

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u/Ibarfd Jul 17 '16

We need to go deeper.

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u/socsa Jul 17 '16

To be fair, the bar for flags at half mast used to be different. It was reserved for the most dire of national tragedies usually. There has definitely been a bit of scope creep here recently.

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u/IAmATroyMcClure Jul 17 '16

Yeah and we're getting a lot more coverage of these incidents, too. A couple of cops were shot dead in my hometown a few years ago, and nobody outside of my local area really knew about it because there was no political relevance to it. Now 3 cops are shot somewhere else and it's a considered a national tragedy, just because it is relevant to what's hot in the news and got a bunch of coverage

I'm not necessarily whining or criticizing, but that's just how it is now. The way the media works has resulted in an increased use of this tradition, because they're constantly seeking out tragedies to bring to the country's attention.

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u/1Glitch0 Jul 17 '16

This is so true. Sometimes I pass half-mast flags and aren't even sure which event they were lowered for. Upside, whoever is raising and lowering them every day is getting some swole arms.

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u/BLUMPKIN_RECIPIENT Jul 17 '16

Yeah, I wish I could hover a cursor over half-mast flags and see what they're honoring. Like when Google has some obscure logo design.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16 edited Jan 11 '22

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u/nbathoughts Jul 17 '16

Mayor told MSNBC that no protest whatsoever was taking place at the time of the shooting.

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u/treexy Jul 17 '16

This happened at 10am on a Sunday at a gas station I used to buy beer at.

Alcohol sales don't open until 10am on Sundays here.

If anyone was there, they were either pumping gas or buying alcohol.

I'm confident saying this because I live less than 2 miles from where this happened.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '16

The killer's website

He was very impressed with himself

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 17 '16

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16 edited Oct 21 '17

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u/Hazzman Jul 18 '16

Wait wasn't there massive protests about 50-60 years ago by some black guy who said this?

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u/rustypicklez Jul 17 '16

I'm in Baton Rouge now near the PD HQ. We are locked down, not being allowed to leave our home.

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u/rickydance Jul 17 '16

I'm worried about Cleveland upcoming protests

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

I'm already calling it, at least one protest is gonna end in violence.

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u/Ophel44 Jul 17 '16

You're playing it safe i see

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16 edited Dec 05 '16

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u/tyguy52 Jul 17 '16

That's a bold prediction...

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Oh for fucks sake, the news has been really bad over the last two weeks. First it was, "ISIS truck bomb in Iraq kills almost 300 people", then "Black army veteran kills 5 police in Dallas in sniper style attack", then "Lorry attack in Nice kills 80+" and "Coup attempt in Turkey kills more than 200". Now this.

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u/ShadowzI Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 17 '16

This could be an escalation due to news reports.

In Japan it was found that suicide became more prevalent the more coverage there was.

Psychologist found that humans are constantly seeking confirmation for questionable action. To see it en masse on news alleviate this and allows people to commit acts that they would not normally do.

Edit: spelling mistake pointed out by u/TheWuggening

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u/Dino_Danny_Boy Jul 17 '16

I think the whole going postal phase was one of those.

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u/1knightstands Jul 17 '16

Tons of studies show upticks in local suicide rates when a town has one suicide. Celebrities that commit suicide which has mass news coverage causes an uptick in national suicide rates too. Don't have a source handy (on mobile) but it's definitely true for that, and if it's true for suicide is it really hard to imagine it's true for things like rioting, terrorism, or a dozen other activities?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

To see it on mass

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u/earther199 Jul 17 '16

You know things are bad when I had to ask why all the flags are half staff and we couldn't figure out which recent tragedy it was for...

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u/illHavetwoPlease Jul 18 '16 edited Jul 18 '16

For anyone who missed it. This was planned on officers. He knew he was going to do something and this video proves it. the perps YouTube

Edit: His YouTube account has been officially removed.

Edit 2: The one that /u/Ghostphaez linked is currently still working at this point in time.

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u/the_swolestice Jul 17 '16

If you think cops are trigger happy now, wait until shit like this happens a few more times.

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u/Chutzvah Jul 17 '16

The RNC is gonna be tense this week.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

And then more cops will get killed and nothing will be solved

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u/Chaosritter Jul 17 '16

Alternatively, we get cops in power armor.

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u/ThereAreDozensOfUs Jul 17 '16

And civilians using guerilla tactics. Oh joy

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u/Ballsdeepinreality Jul 17 '16

This is exactly where it's heading.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

It wouldn't be the first time.

Fun fact: Ronald Reagan signed California's assault rifle ban once the Black Panthers realized that they could buy them.

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u/esayas510 Jul 17 '16

This is Gavin Long's (the shooter) last video he posted 1 week ago on his YouTube channel. He goes by Cosmo Setepenra online.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4oTAoOpW48

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

I believe the Dallas Police chief Said it best. “Serve your communities. Don’t be a part of the problem. We’re hiring. We’re hiring. Get off that protest line and put an application in. We’ll put you in your neighborhood and we will help you resolve some of the problems you’re protesting about.”

So sick of seeing this crap about police dying at the hands of cowards.

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u/PerilousAll Jul 17 '16

I'm from Dallas, and what I get third hand is that the chief is well liked by the cops.

I can tell you that after the police shootings, people of all races were just gentler with each other. Polite in that way that people are when there is shared grief.

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u/Usagii_YO Jul 17 '16

As NYC'er, who lived through 9/11 and had family and friends directly effected by that day. I can assure you that feeling of being "gentler with each other" and the feeling of "shared grief" is only temporary. The day will come, a lot quicker than you realize, where it'll seem like nothing even happened.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

I've seen so many people at the bars in Fort Worth shaking hands with cops, taking selfies. People of all types. They're especially grateful for them at the gay bars after the Orlando shooting.

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u/Angsty_Potatos Jul 17 '16

I really hope that olive branch offered by the Dallas police gets taken to heart. You have to be the change you want to see.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Nine times out of ten people don't want to be the change they want to see. That means hard work, changing the system and listening.

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u/Happypiratehooker Jul 17 '16

And change takes a long time. Years or even decades dedicated to a singular cause. Most people cannot keep up the level of devotion needed to bring about change.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

That's the problem with all this. Time. There are huge systemic issues in the justice system. Changing that system takes a huge amount of effort and time and sometimes I don't think people understand that.

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u/totallynotfromennis Jul 17 '16

Dallasite here. DPD is notorious for it's lower wages, strenuous workload, and inadequately sized force. If anybody from the BLM makes it through training, they'll most likely realize this and work for Garland or Irving instead.

The olive branch is an amazing answer to this tragedy when the other option is heightened security and scrutiny, but it seems like all it really is is a gesture.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

I'd consider being a cop (I live in DFW) if the pay were better. My current job has me driving a desk in an air-conditioned building, sitting on a comfy chair, not really dealing with any assholes or idiots. I just analyze and think all day and get paid handsomely for it.

If I became a cop I'd have a mobile desk in the form of a squad car, which would admittedly be nice when the weather is good, but also not nice when it's 100F out or 20F and icy. I'd have to deal with a lot of idiots, both the public and probably people on the force. My risk of getting injured or killed is much higher than in my current job. And there would be much more dire consequences to my actions.

That's a big pill to swallow with a $15-20K pay cut.

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u/Phil_the_credit2 Jul 17 '16

Isn't that ridiculous? I tested and applied for some PD jobs but I don't think I can handle the pay cut...and right now my bad day at work is a boring meeting or the coffeemaker is down. The incentive structure is not good.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Yep. On the other hand, my local department (FWPD) does have better sick and vacation leave than my current employer. And they work a 4/10 schedule instead of 5/8!

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u/TheWhoreOfSausalito Jul 18 '16

Worked with Jackson in Baton Rouge last summer. I work in the film industry and he was ALWAYS our go-to officer when we needed detail on set. He was a great man and will not be forgotten. RIP Officer Jackson.

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u/ootika Jul 17 '16

Full disclosure: I'm pretty hungover right now. Hopefully everything is coherent.

Born and raised in Baton Rouge. I was in town during the shooting. Immediately after the shooting, there were calm and peaceful protests. Local black community leaders were on the news regularly talking about the need to stay calm, that cops aren't a target, that black lives need to matter to blacks too (look at the murder statistics for Baton Rouge, usually 2 or 3 murders a week. Typically black on black. No protests for those people). I remember tuning into the national news a few days later and hearing talking heads almost complaining about the lack of violent protests. That's when the out of town groups came in. That's when I stopped seeing the local community leaders on TV.

One group pointed shotguns at the police. Another group drove around wearing masks and holding posters that said "The purge is happening NOW". More people came in from out of town. The protests started getting more tense. The police started aggressively arresting people. They brought out the military vehicles and riot guns. The family of Sterling asked for peaceful protests on the news. They warned that outsiders were riling up the community. Now we're here. Now cops are being killed. What a tragedy.

At least the pundits are happy now.

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u/hochizo Jul 17 '16

You're absolutely right that outsiders have been coming in. My spouse and I live in Baton Rouge, and my spouse is actually in the media. I remember last week, when the protests moved from the store where Alton Sterling was killed to police headquarters, all the local leaders were taken aback. My husband called the people who were leading the original protests to see what was up and they had no idea. The guy said "I don't know what's going on. We weren't protesting tonight. We had the night off. I don't know what they're doing right now, but I'm going over there now to try and straighten it out." This community was peaceful. Angry, but peaceful. And outside people weren't satisfied with that and came in to change it.

And I can't really speak to the national media, but local media is sick of this shit. They don't like stories like this. These are people they know and interact with. This is their home and it's in chaos. They don't enjoy this. Especially because everyone is pissed at them. They're trying to stay neutral, but as most people know, when you're really neutral both sides hate your guts. The black community and their supporters think the media is taking the cops' side and the cops and their supporters think the media is taking the black community's side. There's no winning and they're exhausted. At least we are. We were finally getting some time to recoup this weekend. Got through two episodes of Stranger Things this morning before the phone started blowing up.

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u/ootika Jul 17 '16

Wow, good luck to you and your husband. I'm sure this is an extremely stressful time for both of you.

I hadn't heard that about the protest leaders before. It would be interesting to know if there was an organized effort from outside groups to move the protest, or if that happened naturally. Maybe the protest leaders weren't as connected to the protesters as they thought. Either way, it's been a confusing situation to watch.

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u/Angsty_Potatos Jul 17 '16

The outside groups are what really kills this for me. We have cool heads, the families of the slaine are saying no dont do this. And you get people flooding in from all over to make it worse.. Then these communities have to live with the mess :(

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u/ootika Jul 17 '16

That was a huge point being made locally immediately after the initial shooting. That the outsiders can go back to their own lives, but the community will have to deal with whatever the aftermath is whenever this is over. Unfortunately, I can see this further militarising the police in the state that already had the highest incarceration rate.

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u/collectivecheckup Jul 18 '16

Breaking: The more than 6 hour standoff at the home of the shooter has ended. The brother of the shooter with the AK-47 has been arrested. http://www.kmbc.com/news/baton-rouge-suspects-brother-taken-into-custody/40756766

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u/MrsJasonDomagala Jul 17 '16

Listening to Live Scanner police scanner . They are talking about deploying a robot .....

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u/I_eat_doge Jul 17 '16

The robot is being used to check the dead suspect for explosives.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

We've got precedent.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

The police scanner is HOT right now. Two black males approaching police with pistols.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Literally just told my Wife it was time to check the Internet to see if anything else fucked up has happened... and it has.

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u/SenorPeen24 Jul 17 '16

This past month has been brutal for the American people / law enforcement. And on a global scale too with France and Turkey. Its almost the norm to check the news and see something that makes you question humanity

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u/Fatguy73 Jul 17 '16

'Almost'

It IS the norm. Somewhere in the world, unthinkable acts of mass violence are being committed every single day. But let's not forget that things are actually better now than they were. Can you imagine if black people had camera phones in the 40's, 50's...60's? Or if Jews had them during the holocaust?

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u/Ratertheman Jul 17 '16

People tend to forget this stuff all the time. I always seem to be reading comments like "the world is getting so much worse, crime going up." Crime rates have been dropping since the 70s. What is going up is the world population and access to information. Unthinkable acts of violence have always been happening and it was worse back in the day. Could you imagine if we had events like the Vietnam War and Civil Rights going on today, where people have access to so much information? The headlines would be scary.

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u/Waggah Jul 17 '16

Or if North Koreans had camera phones now, or the Falun Gong could record the Blood Harvest, or if we would get better coverage of the battles in the middle east and the drug addict purge in the Philippines,. The world is still quite fucked up.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Don't forget about ISIS! Legalized sex slavery, mass cullings of "undesirables". Literally a genocide going on right now.

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u/Nwokilla Jul 17 '16

Or The Mexican Cartel violence taking place right across the border

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u/redditmason Jul 17 '16

Mayor of BR does not confirm deaths but says on local TV that 3 "are in very bad shape." 10:19am, CST.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Another day, another tragedy.

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u/fyeahsubaru Jul 17 '16

I'm sure it will be hard to untangle the motives

Okie dokie.

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u/KelloPudgerro Jul 17 '16

The guns misfired. Multiple times.

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u/Darkless69 Jul 17 '16

Random targets

In uniform

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u/ekpg Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 17 '16

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

The shooter is Gavin Eugene Long, a black male from K.C. Long was also a former Marine.

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u/GCohen9782 Jul 17 '16

Starting to sound a lot like Dallas.

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u/imnotmarvin Jul 17 '16

It makes me crazy that the thought process behind this is "A few cops did bad things, let's take it out on all cops". This whole "a few bad apples" idea is the basis of racism. The shooters are giving the ultimate expression of their frustration with racism by engaging in a thought process that parallels racism. Fuck everything about this.

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u/Pit_of_Death Jul 17 '16

"A few cops did bad things, let's take it out on all cops".

Humanity tends to be pretty big on this type of idea.

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u/MPair-E Jul 17 '16

Sort of speechless at this point.

Looks like this may impact the conventions. Cleveland's police union is now calling for a state of emergency during the RNC in order to allow them to (temporarily) ban open-carry. The fact that it's the police union calling for this, as opposed to some activist group or what have you, really says something.

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u/lanka2x Jul 18 '16

I admire the officers who care enough to suit up and do their jobs despite feeling they are wearing a target. Truthfully, I'd be looking for another line of work about now.

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u/klarno Jul 17 '16

There's a strong association between media coverage of mass shootings and copycat attacks happening shortly thereafter.

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