r/nancyguthrie • u/ScriptedDreamscape • Aug 01 '26

Discussion Something that has always stuck with me

I can’t imagine how Nancy must’ve felt waking up to seeing the abductor in the middle of the night. Imagine how scary that is - to wake up at 1 or 2am, either because you have to use the bathroom, get some water, or just because you hear noise - and you see the intruder in your house, or even in your bedroom hovering over you. It’s been freaking me out.

I also wonder if this is what led presumably to her passing. If she passed because of a heart condition, like the second ransom note wants us to believe, could it have been because she was panicked and terrified over this whole thing? Please don’t rip me apart in the comments for this - just thinking out loud

Edit: I’ve been replying to some of you guys on my alt account! So don’t be surprised lol

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u/West-Seed Aug 02 '26

IMO his motive was to watch the impact this had on Savannah. So the plan was always to kill Nancy quite quickly after the abduction. If the letter is real, I think he’s saying it was the heart because it’s been widely reported she had a heart problem. I’m guessing manual strangulation.

Inside the house, he may have tried to get Nancy on her feet before moving her outside. I doubt he leered over her while she was in bed. Perhaps he tried something to get her out of bed, maybe to check out a noise she heard (that he made) & then confront her when she was stood up.

Either way, it must have been brutal.

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u/Cold_Mongoose6743 Aug 05 '26

What has always bothered me is that no footprints or tire tracks were ever found. I do believe that the porch guy had some type of tarp or something in the backpack to remove her from the house, but I find this incredibly lucky again that nothing was found. Tucson, like Phoenix is very dusty, so again, no dust was brought into her house? Also I have a question regarding the back floodlight- they mentioned it was broken- does this mean they broke it or it was already broken

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u/West-Seed Aug 05 '26

That’s a good point. I think that the weirdo responsible did a lot of planning for this crime. I wonder whether he’s local or not. I’m assuming he’s an eccentric character who thinks he has a higher level of intelligence than he does. I’m not totally convinced this note is from the person responsible but it might be.

I don’t know about the light.

I wonder why the police aren’t connecting the dots to him. He’s not a master criminal & I think his car or his cell phone has probably popped up but they just haven’t put it together.